Enelysion vs Legendary?
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Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »but vindi got their pple when they were still in the loosing position
if LG is currently in that struggling position now, shouldnt they be gaining pple like vindi did? 
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Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »but vindi got their pple when they were still in the loosing position if LG is currently in that struggling position now, shouldnt they be gaining pple like vindi did?
Or maybe it's because of some another reasons? Like:
- Vindicate members left Vindicate to join Enelysion, earn their trust and friendship. Those members who left Vindicate, their plan was to rejoin Vindicate to take over the map afterwards anyways, so it's obvious that the peoples they associated with in Enelysion followed them. Instead of, in a more descriptive word choice, l1cking peoples azz by going somewhere to do it LG shows them what they are and let peoples decide by their own.
- Vindicate has always had the gear and skill advantage over any other faction and therefore peoples decide to join them just because of the TW pay - free money.
Probably some other reason too. Peoples have been affected for sure by those points above.0 -
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i think it was a given and a known thing that it wont be permanent >> Those that left with them i heard was cause they wanted real TWs << (dont complain to me im not the one who said it >_>; ) Given the nature of their TWs (not really competitive) i can understand that.Mister_NERD_ - Archosaur wrote: »Or maybe it's because of some another reasons? Like:
- Vindicate members left Vindicate to join Enelysion, earn their trust and friendship. Those members who left Vindicate, their plan was to rejoin Vindicate to take over the map afterwards anyways, so it's obvious that the peoples they associated with in Enelysion followed them.
i think they just dont have a group thats prominent enough to do thatInstead of, in a more descriptive word choice, l1cking peoples azz by going somewhere to do it LG shows them what they are and let peoples decide by their own. i mean if they do, thats great. But you cant really use such examples to argue if both sides have equal free choice o.o
Theres a big contradiction in that sentence in which the faction that sat on land the longest without fighting would be richer like enelysion or babyLG to be giving TW pay. Vindi had a good amount of land in the past but when their recent members increased, the lands were a whopping... what 3? 4? And their always going to TW so thats a cost right there too >_> By that time if their pay hadnt already stopped, how measly would the dividents be? >_> thats so illogical.- Vindicate has always had the gear and skill advantage over any other faction and therefore peoples decide to join them just because of the TW pay - free money
prolly joined cause their friends joined o.o simply putProbably some other reason too. Peoples have been affected for sure by those points above. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »but vindi got their pple when they were still in the loosing position if LG is currently in that struggling position now, shouldnt they be gaining pple like vindi did?
why did you guys from ende joined vindi? Tell us what it takes and ima start bribing people with that and make them join leg b:victory b:chuckle
Oh and btw like someone said above me game hasnt got many new people, most end gear people are the same who have been here for over 2+ years so if they wanted to join us they would have probably at some point of time. And if they did and are not here currently they prolly didnt like it here so won't rejoin.
And I am personally not a big fan of how recruitment and some other things is done in our fac but thats how it goes. Can't change anything bout tht.0 -
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Metsomi - Sanctuary wrote: »this thread prove me that all sanctuary members are big QQ ,queen Drama b:kiss hahahaha welcome guys to this drama server
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Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »Theres a big contradiction in that sentence in which the faction that sat on land the longest without fighting would be richer like enelysion or babyLG to be giving TW pay. Vindi had a good amount of land in the past but when their recent members increased, the lands were a whopping... what 3? 4? And their always going to TW so thats a cost right there too >_> By that time if their pay hadnt already stopped, how measly would the dividents be? >_> thats so illogical.
Depends how you see it, in present or future - imo future wins and that's Vindicate.
Also, LG doesn't have TW pay.0 -
We all joined Vindicate to earn money
Let's see
My average cost per 1h tw
Plat charm - between 6 and 9 mils
Apothecary/pots - between 480 and 1.5m
Att/Def charms - to lazy to calc but over 1m
so close to 10m or more per 1h tw, charm prolly won't die out but won't last til the next tw either
Tw pay max per month is what 10m if you do every single tw oO
So yea im pretty sure no body gives a **** about tw pay but its just a nice bonus, but lol talks about tw pay making people rich oO whaaa..Viking Pride b:cute
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You should be lucky Svaarog b:chuckle . Heard a barb in Espectro used 5 plat charms for 2h TW against RavenTail. b:shocked
I doubt any faction giving out any TW pay as it is. You focus more on selling cheap charms to the faction than giving out a monthly profit. Or? idk. Just speculating b:surrenderR.I.P FMM0 -
I hear that, its totally possible, some facs do provide or at least did provide charms for their cata pullers, high hp barbs gonna get hp charm ***** so it makes sense. As a less targeted smalelr hp dd i don't even care, not i ever asked any fac i've been in to buy me charms or send me money, wtf thats ridiculous, i can pay for my own **** and once i can't i won't even do tw so entire point of ppl joining different facs for tw pay pfff stupidViking Pride b:cute
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OoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary wrote: »why did you guys from ende joined vindi? Tell us what it takes and ima start bribing people with that and make them join leg b:victory b:chuckle
Oh and btw like someone said above me game hasnt got many new people, most end gear people are the same who have been here for over 2+ years so if they wanted to join us they would have probably at some point of time. And if they did and are not here currently they prolly didnt like it here so won't rejoin.
And I am personally not a big fan of how recruitment and some other things is done in our fac but thats how it goes. Can't change anything bout tht.
your assumption that anyone bribed us to join vindi is amusing. endeavour suffered a serious loss when many of our core members left the game abruptly to play a different MMO. that loss spiraled and it is patently incorrect to say endy fled or was bribed into vindi. the first faction we began to lose members to (nya among like 4 others) was legendary, then ENE (after handsome crew joined) then REGI (how many regi officers are former endy officers now??? let alone regular members), THEN VINDI (most of us were on friendly terms with handsome crew or other members of vindi and seeing as we wanted high lvl tw and to NOT need to administrate a faction....).
if you don't really know something, don't go on about presenting misleading info.
also, future wins don't provide tw pay NOW. LG and ENE hold a ton of uncontested land, which equals full pay from those lands without the 4-16mil cost of running a TW based on towers alone. nevermind subsidies to cata costs, discounted meds for members etc....
it's a smart move to NOT offer tw pay given the cost of active TW, but if you are basically a sedentary faction that doesn't have to spend the pay, then those must be used to benefit the members in some way. i personally don't accuse ppl of infidelity with faction banks (it seems to be a generic stock response to officers improving their gear, because officers shouldn't have time to even charge credit cards since all they do is paperwork and dkp and catering to member's whim), but we faced a similar question in endy and i'm sure a version of that program has been tried or worked upon by all land-holding factions.
as for how to recruit, its the same everywhere, win TW, dont have shetty officers with publicly shetty reps, and ppl will come. i've done a bunch of AEU and other things with vindi/LG squads, some of my friends are LG and regi, its all the same barrel of monkeys. the only difference is how many hangers'on can you snag and force to gear up in the process.0 -
OoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary wrote: »why did you guys from ende joined vindi? Tell us what it takes and ima start bribing people with that and make them join leg b:victory b:chuckle
LOL pathetic0 -
Simply put, vindi was the only faction that didnt *** us over in the past. (when i retire i will spill it all i know with screeniesOoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary wrote: »why did you guys from ende joined vindi? Tell us what it takes and ima start bribing people with that and make them join leg b:victory b:chuckle
Oh and btw like someone said above me game hasnt got many new people, most end gear people are the same who have been here for over 2+ years so if they wanted to join us they would have probably at some point of time. And if they did and are not here currently they prolly didnt like it here so won't rejoin.
) It may have some questionable pple, but in general, they were neutral. As in they did their own thing.
understandableAnd I am personally not a big fan of how recruitment and some other things is done in our fac but thats how it goes. Can't change anything bout tht. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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Enelysion gives out TW pay and provides charms for cata pullers (not as many as they use, mind you). No faction makes noteworthy money off TW, charm costs alone ensure that (and bidding, and towers, etc. etc.). I doubt any individual has made a profit from TW pay since early 2009.0
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CapnK - Sanctuary wrote: »I doubt any individual has made a profit from TW pay since early 2009.
... at least not if you use charms, defense charms and apo.~♥~ Mohandas Gandhi said: ~♥~
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Father_gold - Sanctuary wrote: »your assumption that anyone bribed us to join vindi is amusing. endeavour suffered a serious loss when many of our core members left the game abruptly to play a different MMO. that loss spiraled and it is patently incorrect to say endy fled or was bribed into vindi. the first faction we began to lose members to (nya among like 4 others) was legendary, then ENE (after handsome crew joined) then REGI (how many regi officers are former endy officers now??? let alone regular members), THEN VINDI (most of us were on friendly terms with handsome crew or other members of vindi and seeing as we wanted high lvl tw and to NOT need to administrate a faction....).
if you don't really know something, don't go on about presenting misleading info.
also, future wins don't provide tw pay NOW. LG and ENE hold a ton of uncontested land, which equals full pay from those lands without the 4-16mil cost of running a TW based on towers alone. nevermind subsidies to cata costs, discounted meds for members etc....
it's a smart move to NOT offer tw pay given the cost of active TW, but if you are basically a sedentary faction that doesn't have to spend the pay, then those must be used to benefit the members in some way. i personally don't accuse ppl of infidelity with faction banks (it seems to be a generic stock response to officers improving their gear, because officers shouldn't have time to even charge credit cards since all they do is paperwork and dkp and catering to member's whim), but we faced a similar question in endy and i'm sure a version of that program has been tried or worked upon by all land-holding factions.
as for how to recruit, its the same everywhere, win TW, dont have shetty officers with publicly shetty reps, and ppl will come. i've done a bunch of AEU and other things with vindi/LG squads, some of my friends are LG and regi, its all the same barrel of monkeys. the only difference is how many hangers'on can you snag and force to gear up in the process.
Lol so serious dude, I was joking you wrote an entire novel.
Tell me the Gossip Decetiscar b:laughb :chuckle0 -
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Didn't say that TW pay ends up where you go with profit, but there are those who refuse to go to TW without getting anything out of it.0
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Mister_NERD_ - Archosaur wrote: »Didn't say that TW pay ends up where you go with profit, but there are those who refuse to go to TW without getting anything out of it.
and those are people that don't understand tw.0 -
OoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary wrote: »Lol so serious dude, I was joking you wrote an entire novel.
Tell me the Gossip Decetiscar b:laughb :chuckle
i responded to you with a paragraph, the remainder was in response to the general conversation.0 -
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lol I've missed so much but it seems TW is still a huuuuuge money sink0
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Today's LG-Vindi TW was quite cheap. Only 3 charmticks... b:shocked~♥~ Mohandas Gandhi said: ~♥~
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Carichan - Sanctuary wrote: »Today's LG-Vindi TW was quite cheap. Only 3 charmticks... b:shocked
Soooo.....your that good? Or just that insignificant? With vindi.0 -
Chrisssss - Sanctuary wrote: »Soooo.....your that good? Or just that insignificant? With vindi.
Maybe you should look into a mirror before calling anyone else insignificant. She is a great cleric, I can't say the same about you. If losing burns you so much I suggest you stay off the tw scene.
Twina
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Chrisssss - Sanctuary wrote: »Soooo.....your that good? Or just that insignificant? With vindi.
I put the smiley there because i was surprised myself. Even tho we outnumbered Legendary it was still a pretty heated fight.
The point is that some people just need to learn not to take things so serious sometimes. It's a game and we all are here to have fun and i don't get why some members of Vindicate and Legendary actually refuse to squad with eachother outside of that few minutes/hours on saturdays... It's sad because they actually refuse to give themselves and eachother the chance to show that we all are actually and after all friendly and nice people for the most part, and not just warriors. Even if we are in a competitive situation.
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k so lets see huh
Legendary attacking enelysion wud lead to enelysion having to defend against
Kaku
Regi
Leg
last TW weekend enely defending against Kaku + Regi they both took 3 hrs
In a triple defend enely wudnt wanna lose 2 lands, but prefer losing just 1
Enelysion = Regi + Kaku (or close, since it took 3 hours to double defend)
Leg > Regi
Leg > Kaku
with this information even a 10 year old can figure out why Legendary doesnt feel like attacking enelysionsuper mega interresting:
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because of the long history of *** licking? o.oMadSkiIIz - Sanctuary wrote: »k so lets see huh
Legendary attacking enelysion wud lead to enelysion having to defend against
Kaku
Regi
Leg
last TW weekend enely defending against Kaku + Regi they both took 3 hrs
In a triple defend enely wudnt wanna lose 2 lands, but prefer losing just 1
Enelysion = Regi + Kaku (or close, since it took 3 hours to double defend)
Leg > Regi
Leg > Kaku
with this information even a 10 year old can figure out why Legendary doesnt feel like attacking enelysion[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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