Do something to stop the R9 spawn camping in NW.

I've never seen that they changed something in their own governing.
so far all the changes came from china.
where the only differ in U.S. and CN is the language, R999 looks and cash shop.
or I'm wrong?
thus remains to be seen just what comes next from china

slayer831 wrote: »

its not so hard to find a good solution.
in most games the spawning spot in a pvp area is a safe zone.
they should reduce the spawning areas from 5 to 2, this 2 will be under the big trees u see.
when a player is inside this tree he is protected, but he also cant attk. once the player got out of the safe zone he can not return, so its 1 way direction.
this way players will have the time to pot and rebuff before going out to the warzone + u wont see tons of players abuse the spawning spot before u even got the chacne to pot yourself.
and u can make it even better, u will have the option to w8 for 30 seconds and it will teleport u (without immune shield) to one of the 3 other spawns in the open area. this way it will be much harder to spawn camp+ it will prevent ppl of just standing inside the sage zone and do nothing.
its not so complicated...very easy and simple solution.
the more u think about it, the better it gets...

I wrote something similar on a different thread, but I thought instead of people being teled out into battle they should be sent back to base after the time limit was up. Not only would that help with spawn killers, it would greatly help with people putting alts in. If your alt is constantly being sent back to base, it's not going to be making enough in tokens to even be worth putting in, plus more people actually playing could get to battles.

lenuyx wrote: »

I've never seen that they changed something in their own governing.
so far all the changes came from china.
where the only differ in U.S. and CN is the language, R999 looks and cash shop.
or I'm wrong?
thus remains to be seen just what comes next from china

There is a big difference between our game and that in China (I know I'm going be attacked for saying this) and that is the players. For people not aware of Asian culture, they have a very strong sense of honor. And I think the rampant spawn camping we have is not an issue they have because it would go against that core value and sense of honor.
The average American doesn't have that same thinking or ethics. If you need proof of that just look at the comments on the forum. Most of the people are blaming the people getting killed at spawn points instead of putting the blame were it belongs; on the people who spawn camp. (I know people from other countries do play, but the majority on here are from the US)

Star_Prism - Archosaur wrote: »

There is a big difference between our game and that in China (I know I'm going be attacked for saying this) and that is the players. For people not aware of Asian culture, they have a very strong sense of honor. And I think the rampant spawn camping we have is not an issue they have because it would go against that core value and sense of honor.
The average American doesn't have that same thinking or ethics. If you need proof of that just look at the comments on the forum. Most of the people are blaming the people getting killed at spawn points instead of putting the blame were it belongs; on the people who spawn camp. (I know people from other countries do play, but the majority on here are from the US)

I agree.

That sense of "honor" and "respect" is rare.

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Hahaaha.. wow! This is the first post to make me audibly laugh in months.

Yeah, I have no idea about China (hell, I hear they KS and Bot massively), but I do agree with the American/average human being comment.

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Hahaaha.. wow! This is the first post to make me audibly laugh in months.

b:chuckle It's a good thing I've got some very dark humor because otherwise it's just sad...

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Hahaaha.. wow! This is the first post to make me audibly laugh in months.

dont be laugh by other post Aste XD XD lool

about me i;m spawn killer ONLY if our flag holder around u guys i dont think i will just watching you guy kill him cuz spawn kill thing -.- but after delivery flag i run to to flag spot and re Att my Enemy ...

but in general true spawn point kill is bad but what we can do .. we need more token XD its not easy get money now in pwi only in NW :P

coolstorm wrote: »

I been spawn camped a few times and most of the time I can kill some of the campers or run away, but last nw there were some r9 3 rd cast heavy hitters. Hard to run away when your skills are in cooldown and being 1 or 2 shoted by these players.

I think the squading option for nw should be removed. I know pwi suppose to balance players by nation and gear, but... Doesn't feel balanced when I'm being pounded by these squads LOL

it balances people off soulforce. Because of this, several squads have taken to removing their gear entirely before entering.

While the sorting is still random and it puts people wherever the lowest total soulforce is, it does make it possible for multiple r9 squads to end up in the same nation.

What I want to clarify for you is:

First: No this is not an exploit that puts r9 squads into the same nation. However, what it does do is make it possible for them to end up in the same nation. It makes them just as likely to end up with each other as anyone else is to end up with one another.

Two: If you removed squads, it literally would not help the issue that you are complaining about at all. In fact, it would make it worse. People could still remove their gear before entering which would make it POSSIBLE for a ton of r9's to end up in the same nation. However, then it really is a matter of which nation was lucky on getting the best gear and significantly less about strategy and working with your friends.

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

rank gear doesnt have any more soul force than NPC gear, im just saying

You're right, I should have communicated better.

I thought it was implied that the much talked about "really powerful rank 9's" killing everyone had good refines, and what I myself meant to say was that powerful +12 etc squads were removing their gear to lower soulforce (which is made from a combination of your toon's level and the refines on your gear [primarily your weapon])

Also, unrefined rank 9 gear toons aren't very hard to kill.

What is this endless QQ about the new NW feature?.

Just don't enter if you don't like it, nobody is forcing you. Spawn killing is part of this game, it will always be, moreover PPL spawn in several locations, heavily buffed and IMMUNE TO EVERYTHING for several seconds.

If you cant fend off campers this way, you wont stand a chance in the battlefield anyway.

Sanctuary server has too many r9 3rd cast. LOL
Conclusion:
It's time to beef up on gears if you want to get more tokens.

Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

I'd suggest you find a squad of intelligent people you can work well with and get in vent.
I have r9 axes but most my gear is pretty common and I'm probably in the top 3 as far as gear goes in my NW party but we still manage to sweep across the map and rarely lose.

Make sure at least one person in your party goes to every flag spawn point. As soon as flag spawns call out where it is and everyone should rush there.
Carry speed orbs of course but also ironguards, because just digging the flag and preventing your opponent from digging is enough to get a point and prevent them from getting eleven.

You can antistun and ironguard then dig. If you don't need to ironguard then that's great, you can use a speed orb. Have archers if you have them in your squad use their speed buffs on you as well and be strategic about the whole thing. As soon as flag is captured or lost return to the spawn points.

Agree!

my seeker is r8 and i do just fine got in frost last nw ran with my friends got 12.5k pc made 230 tokens and its full r8 ijs stop qqing i kill r9s with my seeker so find a way to do the sameb:bye

I find it hard to see how getting frustrated with spawn killing is QQing, it's annoying, especially when you try to run away and low and behold, they follow you (happened to me many times). I don't see how people find playing like this fun at all, and in the end the only thing they achieve is ruining someone elses fun. Grant it it's not technically against the rules so we can't do anything about it, but that doesn't make it fair or sportsmanlike.

But to be honest I think the ppl who are annoyed with spawn killing should put in a suggestion to PWI to have a safe zone for each side that everyone spawns at like TW. But I also think that the ppl getting ticked off with others getting annoyed at spawn killing need to s t f u and let another human being speak their peace before you verbally abuse them.

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

rank gear doesnt have any more soul force than NPC gear, im just saying

Soulforce is based on refine, how much npc gear to know of that's +12 refine? I've made my point

slamstone wrote: »

benefits on spawn killing:

-removes the unnecessary weight from lands (those aquadash clerics and hook and thorn sins that always dug the flag and died 2 seconds later)
-removes those going afk in a land
-if the barb is just sitting with the flag its perfect...good they dont deliver the flag and finish
-it allows ppl able to survive the posibility to get in and make a difference
-gets rid of those base jumpers...and may actually give a chance to OP to actually unlock base from choke


so from what i see....spawn killing is just a qq form for not being competitive...survival of the best rulz!! b:victory

+100000

Time to weed out the weak