Firmament Bow Rank

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  • Maelael - Heavens Tear
    Maelael - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,497 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I ended up with 170 max attack, I was trying to figure out where I placed.

    (and yea, +12 but two garnets cause I think drakeflames aren't worth the money for the increase, Id rather blow the money on other stuff)

    Unfortunately it times out, so I can't get the full list. I tried a 10 divisor in http://codepad.org/qZtiHhRN and it seems Im at 20%, which ain't bad as I wanted 20% or better anyways. '

    Kinda makes me want to reroll but...every time I work it out its like 3.6% overall damage behind max stats, so its like eh.

    Thank you for the advice, very interesting.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Maelael - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I ended up with 170 max attack, I was trying to figure out where I placed.

    (and yea, +12 but two garnets cause I think drakeflames aren't worth the money for the increase, Id rather blow the money on other stuff)

    Unfortunately it times out, so I can't get the full list. I tried a 10 divisor in http://codepad.org/qZtiHhRN and it seems Im at 20%, which ain't bad as I wanted 20% or better anyways. '

    Kinda makes me want to reroll but...every time I work it out its like 3.6% overall damage behind max stats, so its like eh.

    Thank you for the advice, very interesting.

    Damn I never realized Dervish had 5 variable stats on it. That's crazy high. 832 different bows but 168,064 different axes?

    Ohh also you don't want to add that term at the end... it multiplies with the rest.
    (1.0+(650.0+float(dex))/150.0+0.75)*(2.1+.01*float(attlev))*(1.50+.01*float(crit))*(3565+(maxattack*10)/2))
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  • Maelael - Heavens Tear
    Maelael - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,497 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Edit: Figured out where I messed up the code.

    http://codepad.org/mGLS92Qu

    Which puts me at 16.25%, fantastic.

    I mean really in the end what I've found with this is good enough for me, but like...gotta be some way to make a perfected or reasonable one of these for BM Axes. Maybe this one will work since it shows top 25%. I'd have to modify it to say axes and redo the strength and all, but god its been like 10 years since Ive had to code.

    And yea, the 4 Variable stats (Vit really doesnt count lol) is why 20% was good enough for me (woot16%), the statistical amount of rolls is insane to think about in terms of time invested for gain. 600 badges a month to gain maybe 1-3% damage? **** that.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It still had a misplaced ')' here it is right
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  • Maelael - Heavens Tear
    Maelael - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,497 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It still had a misplaced ')' here it is right
    http://ideone.com/qUru3J

    *throws up hands* Thank you Asty :)
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Astyfat set up shop! :O
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  • FayHumming - Dreamweaver
    FayHumming - Dreamweaver Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    b:laugh why u guys keep reroll weapon for little extra state, just waste of money.
    the survival of the fittest

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  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    FayHumming - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    b:laugh why u guys keep reroll weapon for little extra state, just waste of money.

    ???

    11% damage difference from high to low, how is that not significant?

    Every JoSD one shards offers less than 2% damage reduction. JoSDs are running over 120m on Sanct atm, x6 = 720m in cost to negate the damage difference gained by that 11%.

    Also, some people, particularly those with the very top level gear, like to have the very best (go figure) and won't settle for average or worse.




    In other news, 2 more rolls, 334 and 558 ....b:cry
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Valirah - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ???

    11% damage difference from high to low, how is that not significant?

    He's an idiot, don't bother replying.
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  • Aviron - Harshlands
    Aviron - Harshlands Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Do you have to refine only after you reroll?...I'm almost positive I rerolled on my boots which had +2 refine and the +2 remained afterwards (without any chiekun stones).
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So before I refine my Firmament bow I've been spamming rerolls on it waiting until i get a top 10% roll. At some point I realized I didn't have an
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Aviron - Harshlands wrote: »
    Do you have to refine only after you reroll?...I'm almost positive I rerolled on my boots which had +2 refine and the +2 remained afterwards (without any chiekun stones).

    You can keep up to a +3 refine without chienkuns.
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  • XxRagzxx - Sanctuary
    XxRagzxx - Sanctuary Posts: 258 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    So far the highest bow that ive seen on Sanctuary is a 90. Dunno if there is a better one out there yet.

    Edit: I take that back, rfskkirby has a 40 bow.
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  • Aviron - Harshlands
    Aviron - Harshlands Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You can keep up to a +3 refine without chienkuns.

    Yeah a friend of mine just told me the same thing which means i'm stuck with my current refines on armor. Was hoping to reroll thinking I wouldn't lose them.
    Thanks for a really terrific post btw. Very interesting and helpful!
  • Sifu_MohTofu - Sanctuary
    Sifu_MohTofu - Sanctuary Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    do one for bms!
  • Ignathas - Sanctuary
    Ignathas - Sanctuary Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    talking about having no life...
    anyways i think with all the work astrelle puts in this game and all the effort should have long time ago be employed by pwi staff ;P
  • MiniST - Sanctuary
    MiniST - Sanctuary Posts: 604 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    you have to put weights on values for things like crit, like there is no way anybody would take #38 over #41 for example. Hell, even #90 looks better than #38.
  • Bhavyy - Raging Tide
    Bhavyy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    If you read the first post you'd see that they are all weighted in terms of average dps. I would take 38 and stop rerolling tbh it's in the top 10% max stat on dex and attack levels.
    You'd just be silly or be going for something insane to reroll a #38
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  • leilah32
    leilah32 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I'd love to see one that magic classes to use. I'm about to make my R9.3 wand and I'd love to see how i go with the rolls =/
    Would be great if you could tweak the archer one for mystics/AA classes :)
  • kallikashnikow
    kallikashnikow Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Finally got my R9.2 bow today but im not sure with the Firmament upgrade. Any news about Sky Splitter?
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    23, 6, 14

    Top 6% on 5th reroll.

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  • Bhavyy - Raging Tide
    Bhavyy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    23, 4, 19

    Seems so strange that its as low as it is but I have 70% crit with sage qs so it's almost like a top 3%!
    (And I'll keep telling myself this to make me feel better)
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Bhavyy - Raging Tide wrote: »
    23, 4, 19

    Seems so strange that its as low as it is but I have 70% crit with sage qs so it's almost like a top 3%!
    (And I'll keep telling myself this to make me feel better)

    It's fine to tell yourself that heh. The 'typical R999' archer model assumed:

    Demon archer.
    658-670 dex
    120-135 attack level
    53-56% crit
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  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Sifu_MohTofu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    do one for bms!

    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It still had a misplaced ')' here it is right
    http://ideone.com/qUru3J

    I used this service, because it did not list the rankings i wanted

    Just had a question though, any reason for all values being final value +1, 26 attack(25 max), crit 7 (6 max), str/dex 21 (20 max), max attack is 19 = 190 (max in game is 180 = 18)? Just curious.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I used this service, because it did not list the rankings i wanted

    Just had a question though, any reason for all values being final value +1, 26 attack(25 max), crit 7 (6 max), str/dex 21 (20 max), max attack is 19 = 190 (max in game is 180 = 18)? Just curious.

    It's just the way range() works in python. http://docs.python.org/release/1.5.1p1/tut/range.html
    "The given end point is never part of the generated list"
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  • Fyara - Dreamweaver
    Fyara - Dreamweaver Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    #214 25.72%: 18, 6, 19 b:cute should i stick to these stats or try more?b:surrender
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I'd re-roll :(
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  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Fyara - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    #214 25.72%: 18, 6, 19 b:cute should i stick to these stats or try more?b:surrender

    380 badges and the best roll I've had was a 37%, I'd keep it.
  • Fyara - Dreamweaver
    Fyara - Dreamweaver Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Valirah - Sanctuary wrote: »
    380 badges and the best roll I've had was a 37%, I'd keep it.

    Yea that`s why i`m a bit scared :-s i might never get back to this b:surrender gonna keep a while at least..
  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Nothing great, but good enough to settle on, roll #19, ranked 210, 25.24% (20, 6, 11)


    My list of Fail:

    708 : 85.10%
    546 : 65.62%
    340 : 40.87%
    508 : 61.06%
    556 : 66.83%
    584 : 70.19%
    334 : 40.14%
    558 : 67.07%
    697 : 83.77%
    400 : 48.08%
    309 : 37.14%
    660 : 79.33%
    610 : 73.32%
    722 : 86.78%
    483 : 58.05%
    760 : 91.35%
    680 : 81.73%
    531 : 63.82%
    210 : 25.24%
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Valirah - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Nothing great, but good enough to settle on, roll #19, ranked 210, 25.24% (20, 6, 11)

    Congratulations!

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