fuzzywuzz wrote: »
wow.. Lots Of Fantastical Calc Builds But Forgetting The Basic Theory Of Playing A Barb. Suggests To Fuzzy That Perhaps In Asking It Is Just A Barb Alt To Pull Cata For A Faction That Does Not Have Enough Of The True Species.
Neither R8r Or R9 Is Needed At All.
This Panda Has A Mere Shabby Set Of G13 Nirv With A Mix +7 ~ +10 With Josd And Actually Has Experience Playing His Class. With A Good Genie, Apoth And And Actual Knowledge Of The Class, A Barb Does Not Need Either R8r Or R9 To Withstand The Others Out There Roaming The World With Their +12 R9.
Pulling Cata Not Need Op Gear, It Needs A Barb That Knows Wtf They Are Doing. B:bye
Edit: And If You Think Weapon Means Anything At All When Pulling, Please Delete Any Barb You May Have Asap.
KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
I already did the math and for cost-effectiveness and everything total for armor. R9 > N3.
The difference in the "sharding advantage of g16" is that r9 WEAPONS refine g14 instead of g16 which nirvana does which is irrelevant to a catabarb as they really aren't attacking anything.
R9 Armor slotted with josd is the best option.
It's weapon that I was curious about for the add-on effects (In case fuzz STILL doesn't get what I'm talking about.)
And I think the general agreement from people I've asked and forums is R8R is a better choice because of the chance to get up to 30 defense levels +josd the weapon.
cheapengineer wrote: »
When you say "add on effects" I assume you mean Recast properties, but in case you don't...
It was my experience that any weapon proc effects were rather useless, the base vit and HP of the weapon were the primary concern (and what you sharded it with). In my low-budget cata pulling days I had a R8 "egg on a stick" sharded with Vit to swap out for my regular weapon. I assume endgame is the same way - whatever has the most Vit/HP/Magdef as a static weapon.
I spent my time balancing invoke, IG, solid shield, beastial rage, and other genie skills to stay alive. OHT magic rings loaded with VIT and refined up for mag def were damn handy as well. When on the crystal, I tried to stay as far away (and hidden inside the cata) as possible, so that makes it impossible to attack anything.
That doesn't mean a nice devour and demon roar on that sin that thinks he can APS me to death is out of the question...
Wish I knew the top end weapons well enough to give you an exact *THAT ONE*, but that's what I would look for.
FuzzyWuzz wrote: »
Wow.. lots of fantastical calc builds but forgetting the basic theory of playing a barb. Suggests to Fuzzy that perhaps in asking it is just a barb alt to pull cata for a faction that does not have enough of the true species.
Neither R8R or R9 is needed at all.
This panda has a mere shabby set of G13 nirv with a mix +7 ~ +10 with JoSD and actually has experience playing his class. With a good genie, apoth and and actual knowledge of the class, a barb does not need either R8R or R9 to withstand the others out there roaming the world with their +12 R9.
Pulling cata not need OP gear, it needs a barb that knows wtf they are doing. b:bye
edit: and if you think weapon means anything at all when pulling, please delete any barb you may have asap.
SteelStar - Heavens Tear wrote: »
Sorry to **** all over your guys parade, but THIS is pure 110% fact! b:bye
slamstone wrote: »
r8 seems to be the best choice atm...but...and i just take a gamble here.....
the new wall guards ignore dmg reductions/some morai skills and psi skillz and dots ignore def lvls...so the question is....if all those factors are put in the equation is the blind full def or def r8 the best choice?
i personally believe in the def way (maybe some primeval to spice up defenses)....but....b:surrender
furthermore the dinasty expansion seems to be increasing the dot dmg
P.S. more to say about the new tower debuff...which i think (just a rumored guess) ignores def lvls
BloodTyrant - Raging Tide wrote: »
will this thread ever be closed? the answer to the thread was already given in the first pages, /end
SteelStar - Heavens Tear wrote: »
Barb forum is so dead they don't even monitor anymore. lol b:sad