Complete Reset.

If they gave meback half of the us dollars I have wasted on this game....I would take the money an run an be so happy......

No. Why should innocent people be punished for the actions of adults who should be held accountable for their own terms-of-service violations. Which are contracts, by the way. This whole "we shouldn't punish people for not honoring the contact they signed" is stupid. If that's the case, why make it bannable in the first place? Why not just consider glitches part of the game and let everyone use them? I think it's unfair some people got banned and some people didn't as well. They should've either take the time and went through the logs and banned all the glitches. Or banned no one at all. But life isn't fair. Que sera, sera.

No. I would not like that unless they made it possible for me to get gear of equal value for when i leveled. I am fine with starting from zero again and enjoying the ride back to the top, but after the investments of money and time if that went away i would say that iwould be going too.

Then i'd be fine with it. Everyone would be starting on equal ground and there would be life in the map again which i would just love. I miss having squads in the open map. Now its all instance instance instance.

I would be happy to go back to the way the server was pre anni packs and pre TB. Have none of that introduced and work up again.

If they gave me the ****loads of cash I spent on this game as gold for the boutique.

Only way I'd be ok with a reset is if I got every single red cent I put into this game back in gold when the servers restarted and coins = the current items I have within my inventory on my server on top of that also roll back to where frost was a gear instance nerf aps (by nerfing I mean actually nerfing putting a cap at 2.5 or sumthing) and dun let sins have stealth and nerf a few other of their skills and if no nerf leavem outta game entirely game has been so broken since tb expansion its ridiculous hell even go far enough to go back to b4 genie's and players had to know when and what to do in an instance and play their part.

Sagek - Sanctuary wrote: »

1. I doubt it, I think there are a large amount of people who would be ok with this as long as they are reimbursed in someway for the money they spent.

2. No legal action could be taken against them, no one was forced, mislead, deceived, maliciously mislead, etc. So no law is being broken.

3. what? no they wouldn't. I'm not sure why you would have even mentioned that, that makes no sense.

4. Easier maybe, but worth while no. You need to consider the long term in choices like this. It hurts at first but gets better in the long run. Those are the choices PW needs to start making, long term and not short term.

5. they would make more money in the long run if they invested in upgrading the game to a new engine.

1-not as large as you think, (The games already anciently into its lifespan) who'd want to try and redo chari's to the 100th lvs again, when its likely the game will be closed by PWE in the next year or two, anyways......

2-You'd be suprised, how easy it is that: A simple set of Petitions, from a mass of disenchanted people about any business, sent B4 the right eyes.. Can lead too many Unwanted 'Law Suits' or even 'Possible Suits' nowadays... (Even the threat of that happening could ruin (PWEs) reputations, in the Business World; heaven help them if it actually did happen, because No One in the businesses, would want to touch them with a 10-foot pole (Even for Advertising), let alone ever want too work with them "if all they could expect of it, would be Possible future legal troubles."b:shocked

3-If a law suit did show up and they lost against it, many Nations would never allow them a ZHEN~(trading/purchasing) market option, too get any Money from their citizens, if they have that sort of sorded history, in the worlds eye's... Since they themselves, would only be seen as being (1-step) short of being a Scam Office & Pyramid Scheme 'Quasi-Business' themselves; in the eyes of the many of their formally marketing nations, at that point... (Hard too even keep business liscences, let alone ReUp & Renew Them; let alone ever get any New~1s after that, at that point of reputation......)b:avoid

4-By just shutting it down, theres a good chance many of the players, would just switch too their newer games, (Nice, Clean & Sweetly Simple) with minimal loss to their player base, hopefully; under the best chances there.........b:pleased

5-Why perfume a ****, and expect everyone to call it an ORANGE, let alone SEE It as 1 & EAT IT?!?!???? The only way too make more money, is to take their {Player Base} more seriously; and not their Own Personal Take Home Amounts, that they get on their own Paychecks, while they continue to find new ways on how not too do there jobs, at every giving time they have to prove it.......b:fatb



I mean seriously, they sold out their own {ToS/Rules} for a bunch of Cash shoppers, and basically told 88% of everyone else to go F*** OFF & D*E!!!, Multiple Times Now, everytime those (Violating) Cash Shoppers are at risk; they apparently just like to say Ta H**L! with everyone else then..... Even though the Majority of the Cash that They Get, comes from (Non-Violating) Players..............



The only way they can show themselves, as a (Viable & Trustable) Business Entity now by the majority of their players; is to stop thinking with their Checkbooks! And how Good They'll Look with Our Money!!! And start thinking about what they used to be known for in (YEAR-1) of the Game ~ And that was that they thought about their Customer Bases SATISFACTION.....b:flower

A reset, as you propose here; would only end up Pissing Off!! Alot of Peaple at Them!!! That they Don't need (Nor Want) too get Pss'D Off at them.....

It would only turn their already low ratings, in (Customer Satisafaction) Into an ever Downwardly Spiraling FURBALL.... And No Business Likes their Reputation that Badly Talked about by the masses.....


TOODLE'S -v^'

I think they should just make PWI2 or something. Start all over again with better graphics, with a coding made by themselves that they can actually edit and know what they are doing etc.

As for me, I'd probably quit. I'd stay around for a while to see how things are but I'd quit. I've spent too much time as well as some money and I don't want to see that gone. I'm aware that one day the servers will die (the game can't live forever) but when that day comes I'll probably be too busy irl to be around.

But thing is, most of the problems we have here are our version's fault. As far as I know PWCN still goes strong (no packs, no hyper frost etc.) and content wise we depend on them.

Seriously, FIX + PWE in the same sentence = Not Fix x **** it up even more.

I've been playing this game for 3 years, pwe isn't the kinda a company to refund on such a large scale, heck to get a single item respawned in game because of some glitch or the other is rare far less for this.

I'd be against a server reset like this x.x

Oh and I bet they'd reset all charas and gear and STILL have some game breaking glitch lol

oh wow, so people spending $5000 for example get a pixeled hat. Wow, i wouldn't be able to contain my excitement of the thought.

I don't know why this is actually a topic. No one here would get their money back on what they spent because PWI are in the business to MAKE money, not give it away.

They can shut down the game & just reset, thats totally up to them, it'll just show what type of people run this game.

Or, they can actually sort this game out ( blessings, glitches, rubberbanding in Morai etc ) and make people FEEL like they want to play this game

I just fired up an old PC and loaded it with a private server. If I ever plan to have more than 10 people playing it, I'll need to get a blade but for now it suffices for an escape from the current community while still being able to play.

And truly, that is what the real issue is with PWI right now. It's not so much the crappy sales, the broken economy, or the long list of things that need to be fixed and haven't. The real issue with the game right now is the community in the game. Sure, PWE is at fault for making it easier for the failed community to foster, but in the end, it's the people that are causing the issue, not the company.

We have lost a lot of good players over the years simply because they (PWE) made it so easy for any brainless noob to start playing and hit high levels. Then all they have to do is throw some money at it and they're "pro" overnight. This has created a place where achievements don't matter. Respect is what you get when you can gank everyone in sight and no one can get through your uber gear. The fact that I play normally, don't hyper-level and don't blow my entire paycheck on gear now makes me a failure as a player in the eyes of the community. Never mind that I probably know more about classes and game mechanics than some of the current GM's. Never mind that I've been playing this for over three years and have a lot of knowledge to share. I'm not R9 with 5.0 APS so I'm a complete fail noob in the eyes of the community.

That, is what's wrong with the game. A reset won't fix it, and it just hurts PWE's bottom line in the long run.

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Redmenace - Heavens Tear wrote: »

something like this would be fatal for some dumb SOB at PWI headquarters - someone who lost 100+ levels and several thousand dollars and 2-3 years of time that lives in California would *absolutely* go postal on that place - without a doubt.

Exactly what I was thinking doing something like this would make for a serious real life situation for all those *unstable* players that we have, oh yes they are out there


Now if they made a NEW server that was "fixed" I might consider starting up again, but I've worked too freaken hard to get to where I am now and I have a long way to go still so of course I don't want to start from scratch.

I for 1 can say without a doubt i WOULD NEVER start over from lvl 1 again.
ESPECIALLY any server run by PWE!!!!
Reset and give you some in game coin........people would **** flip.
My issue is they can reset and start over and introduce the same **** again to try to get people to re-buy the same chit they already had.
THIS IS HOW I SEE PWE NOW.
SO IMO WHY BOTHER!!!