make bp less powerfull?

I dont understand you people. why you want bp to be removed or less powerful, is jealous and hate because they solo alone or what exactly bother you at bloodpaint? I just dont get it. I know all you haters re magic classes but what do you magic class win if they remove bloodpaint, lower hate?

No don't get rid of it, make it a heal over time, similar to BM Diamond Sutra and so it only works on the sin who casts it.

Semis_Inferi - Archosaur wrote: »

yer,make it so only sins can use it,makes more sense that way...a sin isnt spost to be a buff giver class anyways


its just like certain psychic buffs being castable on other folk....i occasionally,beleive it or not,get asked for my psychic buffs,,,and im thinking the whole time "why in lord`s name do you want my rather meager sheilding?im not a cleric,go away"

they need to fix this....make these things self cast only

Every buff, even small helps

LOL "****" meats!

suggestion: limit the max healing per second from it

Ok so whats this really nerfing BP and removing it? why to **** over melee classes? i have Dubbles of every class in game different culti's and i can see a logical reason to nerf blood paint. Let me just state a few facts....

1. most casters have self heals that do not require sparks as with melees like barbs and bms they do

2. my R9 psy solos caster nirvy with hardly a tick with self heals, why does it need bp same with wizzy demon R9 self heals.

3. sins them selves have no heal skill other than blood paint, another thing sins are light armor which makes them alot more squishy than your heavy armor barbs bms and seekers to begain with. thus they actually need blood paint.

4. another fact about day to day quests, if your a caster and mobs are hitting you alot during your average quests, your doing somethign wrong. every caster in this game has a knockback or stun skill most have a seal or freeze skill also.

I probably wont reply to anything else you all say, but ill closs with this, they already nerfed 5.0 and yes its if very noticable on bm and sin, whats with the QQing about blood paint now? i mean really before it was nerfing aps now that they weakend 5.0 you want them to take away blood paint? talk about a load of **** you people always got something to cry about roll another class and see, BP doesnt save every ones life like you all think, how about try playing a class before you talk about nerfing it or making something else stronger.

Flipping morons.

BP isn't nearly as imba as you make it seem. I'm a 3.33 Sage with +6 G13 Nirvana and I'm squishy as damn. On the other hand, someone I know is 2.86 Sage with +12 R9 and he soloes freaking Snakefist.

For example, I just spent some time in Old Unicorn Forest doing quests. God I hated it, mostly because... wait for it.... BP is turned to utter **** due to the mobs having low life and being level 150. The combination of those two means: I heal for **** and they still deal the same damage. Trust me, without BP I would never go to OUF.

Then again, I have "only" 6,508 life.

People need to stop complaining about BP when it's not the issue, the refines are. This can easily be inferred from a few examples:
1. Archers being able to tank and solo things with fists
2. Sins sucking even with BP on lower levels
3. Sins sucking even with BP without decent refines
4. Archers/BMs/Barbs/Sins being absolutely ridiculous with high refines

If they're going to nerf BP, they sure as hell better give every single sin out there a proper, working means of exchanging their bound gear and spent skills for those of other classes, or for Gold/Coins. Which they won't. Thus, they won't nerf BP. Not that it would change anything, it'd just make R9 archers that much more ridiculous.

o.o seems from what i can gather that bp,and sins specifically arent the entire problem


seems like there is massive imbalance between the classes,every single one of them

it seems the root of this class imbalance disorder run much deeper than just sins and bp...im no pwi historian,but im fairly certain there were complaints of imbalance before tideborn even existed no?

i think it has something to do with the gear and skills as there being added...

perhaps it would be a wise idea to literally restrict certain classes to certain armor and weapons..it would seem like that would slowly force everything back into place

instead of rediculous things like archers using melee fists....why didnt they just start a bm or something if they wanted melee? i think there doing it not because of there own sole fault,but because the imbalance allows and/or forces it

Semis_Inferi - Archosaur wrote: »

it seems the root of this class imbalance disorder run much deeper than just sins and bp...im no pwi historian,but im fairly certain there were complaints of imbalance before tideborn even existed no?

Nix bleed QQ. Veno soloing everything QQ.

I think PW did an excellent job of making the EG classes pretty well balanced against the original ones. TB still haven't been properly balanced against the original or newer classes.


And for the record, I really don't care about BP, it's saved me from charm ticks, that's for sure, but there's nothing I can't do with BP that I can't do without. I see it as a crutch that so many people can't live without... kinda like blessings and hyper stones.

I just like the QQ. b:surrender

Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »

Wow, this is a rare moment...

/facepalm

Of course, giving out gear in exchange for a nerf won't happen, that'd be some serious favoritism. Then again I hear tales of PWE returning gear that was scammed or lost somehow.

But who knows. PWE put in an APS "nerf" and has fixed some glitches that parts of the population liked, e.g. caster nirvana and CC. So maybe they would have the guts to make sins less of a walking god.

Though if that happens I would probably just get my archer to 100, get him R8, account stash most of my gear from my sin and /care. With a good enough timing, I would have myself a good archer with 250m spare coins to fund him with. That'd be tasty.

Nymphali - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Nerf bp? Make BP self casting only?

Are you guise on crack?

BP is not quite of a "life saviour" and we know that. High healing ability with bp is only possible through high refine levels and high aps gear, even though we still use **** meats to keep hp stable.

BP only reduces the amount of extern heal needed. Also: Sins, BMs and Seekers are the most addicted to **** meats and charms through all the game, if you other classes used as much **** meats as we use, you would probably have the same survival index.

The point is: You wizzies rely only on buying mp food, hence why you die that much. If you had same lvl refines & shads and used to consume as much **** meats as we do, you wouldn't be complaining here.

BS. With BP you don't need cleric at the end of game. It's not just supportive healing is fully functional healing.

Nymphali - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Nerf bp? Make BP self casting only?

Are you guise on crack?

BP is not quite of a "life saviour" and we know that. High healing ability with bp is only possible through high refine levels and high aps gear, even though we still use **** meats to keep hp stable.

BP only reduces the amount of extern heal needed. Also: Sins, BMs and Seekers are the most addicted to **** meats and charms through all the game, if you other classes used as much **** meats as we use, you would probably have the same survival index.

The point is: You wizzies rely only on buying mp food, hence why you die that much. If you had same lvl refines & shads and used to consume as much **** meats as we do, you wouldn't be complaining here.

Yes, sins, BMs and Seekers totally use more "****" meat than barbs. Seems legit.

Look, APS and BP broke the game balance and mechanics.

Now that people have spent REAL WORLD MONEY on them, it's a bit unfair to nerf either.

The only real way to 'fix' this is to give the classes that can't get BP or use APS a similar advantage.

It comes down to, Sin, BM, and to a lesser extent, Archer and Clawbarb are worth playing to people, but the casters are not. Leave the Sin, BM, Archer, and Clawbarb alone and fix the casters. Otherwise, you're gonna have a lot of people pissed off who spent large sums of money on this game.

Mrs_Vivian - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Ok so whats this really nerfing BP and removing it? why to **** over melee classes? i have Dubbles of every class in game different culti's and i can see a logical reason to nerf blood paint. Let me just state a few facts....

1. most casters have self heals that do not require sparks as with melees like barbs and bms they do

2. my R9 psy solos caster nirvy with hardly a tick with self heals, why does it need bp same with wizzy demon R9 self heals.

3. sins them selves have no heal skill other than blood paint, another thing sins are light armor which makes them alot more squishy than your heavy armor barbs bms and seekers to begain with. thus they actually need blood paint.

4. another fact about day to day quests, if your a caster and mobs are hitting you alot during your average quests, your doing somethign wrong. every caster in this game has a knockback or stun skill most have a seal or freeze skill also.

I probably wont reply to anything else you all say, but ill closs with this, they already nerfed 5.0 and yes its if very noticable on bm and sin, whats with the QQing about blood paint now? i mean really before it was nerfing aps now that they weakend 5.0 you want them to take away blood paint? talk about a load of **** you people always got something to cry about roll another class and see, BP doesnt save every ones life like you all think, how about try playing a class before you talk about nerfing it or making something else stronger.

+1 for everything u said. id also like to add that u guys all need to grow up and stop finding something to cry about just to get ur senseless opinion heard. get rid of bp? this is the stupidest QQ post ive seen in a long time. why dont u make it where clerics can only self heal ? makes no sense right? just do what u do and stop crying over everything that you dont have. get over urself i dont see sins crying because we cant get 30k hp like barb's. u guys **** people off crying every day about the same things.