Remove Bloodpaint

Yeah take bloodpaint away and leave us to nub hyper lvled clerics... no ty

1st solve problem with hyperlvling new players who have no clue about gameplay and their toons later do something with skills.. jeez..

Regenbogen what if I've got 1 already?

Beside you as veno should learn at last how to heal other people b:angry

Vesemr - Sanctuary wrote: »

Regenbogen what if I've got 1 already?

Beside you as veno should learn at last how to heal other people b:angry

teach others how 2 play...

you just need to become my pet then can heal you, you are hopefully not as stupid as this big golden baby i allways have to babysit...b:cute

its not as if i only got a foxform melee attack has a 80% chance to give 600hp and a 60%maxhp selfheal with a 5minutes cooldown and a 60%maxmpheal with a 5minutes cooldown too which can be considered as a second heal with my hp/mp swap skill...

therefore i'd like to have even a decent heal but we all know how pwi works...b:surrender

Daggeron - Sanctuary wrote: »

Bloodpaint is legit buff skill, asking to delete is just pure dumbness like asking to delete defense buff from blade masters or bramble from venos. Would be more fun to delete couple of lvls from people that exploited goons glitch in fcc and that way lvled themselves to 105. :P

it got disabled in open pvp after people where qqing much...
so how about getting it back in open pvp? b:cute

Actually, nerfing or removing bloodpaint to healing over time skill just for Assassins would be beneficial to PWE.

It would make all the horribly geared wanna-be APS toons actually gear up. b:chuckle

x201x wrote: »

Bloodpaint destory pve or unfair for caster/long rang classes. Those with aps able to tank boss or solo the place.

That statement just shows that you havnt understood anything about how the game works.

Its not bloodpaint that destroys pve. Pve is broken to begin with. Like I already said several times: "pve needs a complete makeover" not some classes skills.

Those with aps will always tank bosses or solo the place! Its not because of bloodpaint but because they deal just to much damage and get aggro. The better aps users dont even need bloodpaint to solo.

Everyone qqing about bloodpaint is just not smart enough to understand that its not a matter of bloodpaint that pve is unbalanced.

[The reason everyone was qqing about bramble in open pvp was that the damage reflected was calculated before defences. So if the brambled one has high enough defences the bramble damage would be higher then the damage the attacked would recive. Concidering that seeing bramble on a barb would mean every melee class would kill itself in 4 hits while the barb wouldnt even notice the damage dealed to him.]

_Petal_ - Harshlands wrote: »

Good lord! How did those actual tanks EVER do those instances?



Oh I remember--we got a CLERIC and GOT OVER IT.

No, see, it's cool. Tanks can heal themselves with bloodpaint, leaving clerics free to full time metal mage mode. b:cool

_Ruxandra_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

If you wanna remove bloodpaint because you are jealous that sin can tank solo, then PWI remove the fist and hf from bm to. Blademaster in his name itself is blade not "fistmaster" Let blademaster just use weapons not fist, how will you like that? I mean how stupid can you be to suggest such a thing? OMG! And if bloodpaint is remove and sins cant solo anymore, how that will be better for magic characters? You still cant solo even if they have bp or not. You must be drunk! b:shocked

BMs do still use their other weapons if the situation calls for it (the non-fail ones anyways).
I guess if BMs/Sins cant solo then no one can. Everyone would have to work together. To be honest though, I its a combination of BP, high APS and easy access to high refines that allows soloing end-game stuff to be possible to begin with (there are those who can go on just fine with crab-meat/charm), but meh.

_Ruxandra_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

If you wanna remove bloodpaint because you are jealous that sin can tank solo, then PWI remove the fist and hf from bm to. Blademaster in his name itself is blade not "fistmaster" Let blademaster just use weapons not fist, how will you like that? I mean how stupid can you be to suggest such a thing? OMG! And if bloodpaint is remove and sins cant solo anymore, how that will be better for magic characters? You still cant solo even if they have bp or not. You must be drunk! b:shocked

Sir, you make some bad analogy.

whoops, wrong char to post from

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

Then I guess you should also remove R9, it allows Archers to do funny stuff like solo TM69.

Remove Bloodpaint and R9 and watch how many people you'll have left in the game.

b:cute

and cap the apps rate at 3.0

PumpingIron - Dreamweaver wrote: »

not every arcance class is as smart as fay to wear +12 magic rings. Btw I guess u were very lucky with your nirvana drops; idk since when u can farm full r9 recast with 'a few' runs. I doubt ur r9 medals are from dq medals, ur toon is a hyper baby, a few months old. Medals are gone for a while tho. So... how about quit lying and then try it again? b:dirty

You forgot to mention how she got from lvl101 to lvl 105 within a week or two. and besides she should use that money for r9 recast to pay some english tutor or something....her grammar sucks lmao...and she also acts like a pedo b:shocked

Nahleanna - Sanctuary wrote: »

and cap the apps rate at 3.0

Nah if you are going to cap, do a real one, kill -int except on set bonuses and kill -chan except on set bonuses.

The cap would have to be at 2.86 or 3.33 in your suggestion, not an even 3, game mechanics would not allow it without re-writing code atleast, even then that it wont change anything , sins can solo near anything in the game at that low aps, which is what the debate is about, not aps but sins

Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »

Then make also hit time for physical attacks (like casting time for spells), so it will be really equal.

Really physical attack must be like this:

<Time for hit>+<Interval between hits>+
<Time for hit>+<Interval between hits>+
<Time for hit>+<Interval between hits>+
<Time for hit>+<Interval between hits>+ ...

Because casters have:
<Channeling time>+<Casting time>+
<Channeling time>+<Casting time>+
<Channeling time>+<Casting time>+
<Channeling time>+<Casting time>+ ...

Sure but you'd better pump up auto-attacks so they do base damage + XXX damage + XX% of weapon damage per hit just spells have. Plus auto-attacks should have some form of added proc just like most spells do as well since we're talking about making things alike. After all, it's not like any phys DDs have skills with channel + cast + cooldown times too so what you're saying makes total sense and once we add in my improvement the game will be totally balanced at last!

Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »

Casters have not autoattack.

You proposed autoattack for casters ?

Your response makes me unsure if I should laugh at you or facepalm..

Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »

Then make also hit time for physical attacks (like casting time for spells), so it will be really equal.

Really physical attack must be like this:

<Time for hit>+<Interval between hits>+
<Time for hit>+<Interval between hits>+
<Time for hit>+<Interval between hits>+
<Time for hit>+<Interval between hits>+ ...

Because casters have:
<Channeling time>+<Casting time>+
<Channeling time>+<Casting time>+
<Channeling time>+<Casting time>+
<Channeling time>+<Casting time>+ ...

Well you could do that, but it would not make sense at all, from a rpg standpoint. From any type of rpg lore, casting/channeling (they are sometimes the same) takes time, it is not instant except for the highest of levels. Melee on the other hand has no casting because there is no casting, you either hit or miss. skills on the other hand do have casting times, because there is more to it than just a hit. I do understand what you are saying, but it wouldnt work that well. There probaly is a "TIme for hit" function already there from animation time.