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im impressed that ppl complain over bp when +12 r9 with josd is so much more powerful, i mean, can you even die to pve in that gear?
the trinity of tank-healer-DD is long gone and even the removal of bp wont bring it back. the DDs, both casters and aps, are way too powerful now. at best it would go back to is DD-healer.
but w/e bp only save some crab food and maybe some charm.0 -
Sefiere - Sanctuary wrote: »im impressed that ppl complain over bp when +12 r9 with josd is so much more powerful, i mean, can you even die to pve in that gear?
the trinity of tank-healer-DD is long gone and even the removal of bp wont bring it back. the DDs, both casters and aps, are way too powerful now. at best it would go back to is DD-healer.
but w/e bp only save some crab food and maybe some charm.
if you're full +12 JoSD you dont die. Not unless you're doing TT 3-3 and use frenzy on arma when he debuffs you, than you can still die >.> or if you're a caster and you poke harpy >.>0 -
1. If we can still attack then there's still gonna be 5 aps. XD
2. BP does alot more than save a few crabs. <_<0 -
You know. Unless you present an alternitive useful unique squad buff for sins you're just blowing jealous QQ out your ***.
And consider how badly sins got shafted for the new skills compaired to the other classes I see no reason why they should lose their OP buff.0 -
Karen_Divine - Sanctuary wrote: »if you're full +12 JoSD you dont die. Not unless you're doing TT 3-3 and use frenzy on arma when he debuffs you, than you can still die >.> or if you're a caster and you poke harpy >.>
Just recently, Asterelle, notoriously full +12 JoSD R9 Archer, was all down about how Harpy Wraith not spawning is sad because it's challenging to solo Harpy Wraith.
b:cuteI am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
If you see b:cute be sure to take a second, calm look at anything I said.0 -
Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »Just recently, Asterelle, notoriously full +12 JoSD R9 Archer, was all down about how Harpy Wraith not spawning is sad because it's challenging to solo Harpy Wraith.
b:cute
Because harpy rakes in the billions of coins >_>BladedZero - Sanctuary
"Also I don't think actually playing through the game helps your skill either."
-And we wonder why this game has gone to hell b:cute0 -
lets remove 5aps and bp if mages max magic attack is decreased to 10k when sparked!0
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hiddenmonkey wrote: »You know. Unless you present an alternitive useful unique squad buff for sins you're just blowing jealous QQ out your ***.
And consider how badly sins got shafted for the new skills compaired to the other classes I see no reason why they should lose their OP buff.
Ikr.....seekers get PETS for goodness sake and they hit a little bit too hard, imo.
Seekers are gonna own TW now.0 -
without bloodpaint how would the aps humpers solo nirvana?
an instance designed for 6 people.
oh thats right they fully ruined that for anyone who isnt a bm sin or fail fist barb.
ty pwi.0 -
Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »Let's just remove all skills except Meditate and Attack.
That'll solve plenty:
No more QQ about Bloodpaint
No more QQ about Stealth
No more QQ about Psychic knockbacks
No more QQ about Armageddon
No more QQ about BIDS
No more QQ about Bramble
No more QQ about Deaden Nerves
No more QQ about Tidal Protection
No more QQ about Focused Mind
No more QQ about CC
No more QQ about Condensed Thorn
No more QQ about 5 aps
No more QQ about Souls
No more QQ about Clerics being useless
No more QQ about BM Leaps being useless
No more QQ about Stone Barrier
No more QQ about Stormrage Eagleon sucking
No more QQ about STA stealing exp
No more QQ about Knockback Arrow not working in PvP
No more QQ about Winged Shell not working as described
No more QQ about Condor being useless
No more QQ about Violet Dance
No more QQ about Revive
No more QQ about True Form
No more QQ about Venos not needing pots
No more QQ about Fox Form
No more QQ about Voodoos
No more QQ about QPQ
No more QQ about Saber Rattle
No more QQ about Yataghan being imba
No more QQ about Seeker debuffs not purging from reset bosses
No more QQ about Mystics being Veno + Cleric copies
Just wait till lvl cap gets moved to 150 b:laugh0 -
Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »Just recently, Asterelle, notoriously full +12 JoSD R9 Archer, was all down about how Harpy Wraith not spawning is sad because it's challenging to solo Harpy Wraith.
b:cute
b:laugh hehe thats why I said casters as for soloing harpy its more of an ego thing now so its fine by me, gotta keep some challenge right?0 -
Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »Because harpy rakes in the billions of coins >_>
I do hope that's fancy sarcasm.
From what I've seen, the Dragonling Essences sell for around 9m or so. Of course, during 2x, you'd probably get like 4-6 of them per kill.
But even so, considering that Asterelle is perfectly capable of soloing TM69 and is regularly seen selling the runs for 1m per slot, I just don't think Harpy is that big a source of coin.
From what I've seen, Asty likes going to every single event and wtfpwning them all for no real reason. You cannot really argue the fun when you've been doing it for several years, nor can you argue the coin point when you're sporting +12 JoSD R9.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
If you see b:cute be sure to take a second, calm look at anything I said.0 -
Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide wrote: »Serious answer here: Give Psychics a similar buff, 1% Mana and 1% HP leeched per attack. Only casters can get the buff.
Now only Archer's can QQ, but its ok, they got stealth.
love it0 -
Serious answer here: Give Psychics a similar buff, 1% Mana and 1% HP leeched per attack. Only casters can get the buff.
Now only Archer's can QQ, but its ok, they got stealth.0 -
Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »I do hope that's fancy sarcasm.
From what I've seen, the Dragonling Essences sell for around 9m or so. Of course, during 2x, you'd probably get like 4-6 of them per kill.
But even so, considering that Asterelle is perfectly capable of soloing TM69 and is regularly seen selling the runs for 1m per slot, I just don't think Harpy is that big a source of coin.
From what I've seen, Asty likes going to every single event and wtfpwning them all for no real reason. You cannot really argue the fun when you've been doing it for several years, nor can you argue the coin point when you're sporting +12 JoSD R9.
Nope you still only get 3, We killed it on the first day of the expansion b:victory0 -
Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide wrote: »Serious answer here: Give Psychics a similar buff, 1% Mana and 1% HP leeched per attack. Only casters can get the buff.
Now only Archer's can QQ, but its ok, they got stealth.
And considering that Archers get the second best R9 in the game, I doubt Archers got anything to complain about. Other than not being the very best.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
If you see b:cute be sure to take a second, calm look at anything I said.0 -
FayHumming - Dreamweaver wrote: »Delete Bloodpaint skill then solve everything in PVE..b:laugh
dafuq did i just read ?- my personal signature -
- the one who bashes all Caster Nirvana QQers -0 -
Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »Let's just remove all skills except Meditate and Attack.
That'll solve plenty:
No more QQ about Bloodpaint
No more QQ about Stealth
No more QQ about Psychic knockbacks
No more QQ about Armageddon
No more QQ about BIDS
No more QQ about Bramble
No more QQ about Deaden Nerves
No more QQ about Tidal Protection
No more QQ about Focused Mind
No more QQ about CC
No more QQ about Condensed Thorn
No more QQ about 5 aps
No more QQ about Souls
No more QQ about Clerics being useless
No more QQ about BM Leaps being useless
No more QQ about Stone Barrier
No more QQ about Stormrage Eagleon sucking
No more QQ about STA stealing exp
No more QQ about Knockback Arrow not working in PvP
No more QQ about Winged Shell not working as described
No more QQ about Condor being useless
No more QQ about Violet Dance
No more QQ about Revive
No more QQ about True Form
No more QQ about Venos not needing pots
No more QQ about Fox Form
No more QQ about Voodoos
No more QQ about QPQ
No more QQ about Saber Rattle
No more QQ about Yataghan being imba
No more QQ about Seeker debuffs not purging from reset bosses
No more QQ about Mystics being Veno + Cleric copies
it would be like playing ff1 !0 -
Sefiere - Sanctuary wrote: »it would be like playing ff1 !
Oh come on, at least in FF1 you can get on a boat and get lost in the seas and end up as level 10 on an island inhabited by goblins that oneshot your party. You show me how to do that in PWI, please.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
If you see b:cute be sure to take a second, calm look at anything I said.0 -
Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »Oh come on, at least in FF1 you can get on a boat and get lost in the seas and end up as level 10 on an island inhabited by goblins that oneshot your party. You show me how to do that in PWI, please.
have a bunch of lvl 1-29s walk into SP when certain unnamed ppl are there... its the same thing...sort of0 -
Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »Oh come on, at least in FF1 you can get on a boat and get lost in the seas and end up as level 10 on an island inhabited by goblins that oneshot your party. You show me how to do that in PWI, please.
make a tideborn and swim to dreamweaver area?0 -
Sefiere - Sanctuary wrote: »make a tideborn and swim to dreamweaver area?
Oh... never thought of that. But it's not really the same, since you actually got a proper map in PWI, so you at least know where you came from. I spent like 20 minutes getting back to the starting castle when I got lost.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
If you see b:cute be sure to take a second, calm look at anything I said.0 -
Sefiere - Sanctuary wrote: »it would be like playing ff1 !
HEY! Don't drag something devine like FF into this misery!
BTT: Removing BP won't solve anything and noone has anything to complain about...except the fact that loads of "especially" sins couldn't farm as they used to...I know tons of sins that are just capable of doing TT3-3 and Nirv tanking because of their extrem Blood Suck. Trust me, if you havn't got Full +10 at least then you're not going to solo anything without Blood Paint, ijs^^ But Casters can ****, they are much stronger in pk, if skilled ofc.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I am really honered, ty b:victory
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101 Demon Blademaster. 101 Demon Barbarian,
100 Sage Seeker, 100 Sage Cleric, 100 Demon Assassin,
101 Demon Cleric, 93 Demon Archer, 101 Sage Venomancer,
89 Demon Psychic, 100 Sage Mystic, 100 Demon Wizard0 -
The thing is, each class (or close) has some kind of heal, but also with drawbacks..
Clerics
Plenty of heals, but all have cast time, cooldown and mana cost.
Mystics
They have heals too, with cast time, cooldown and mana cost.
BM's
Diamond Sutra is our self heal, but costs a spark and mana. Channel and cast time too
Barbs
They have sunder. 2 sparks and mana, with channel and cast time.
Venos
They have a self heal too.. Cast time, channel, mana...
Seekers
A bit far fetched, but they have Last Stand as 79 skill. Uses mana too.
Wizards
They have one too, but with long channel and cast time, and mana...
Psychics
They have one too, with channel, cast time and not sure other cost..
Archers
Hmm ok.. I think they don't have any..(If they don't have one, they should and I understand their QQ about BP not working on them)
Sins
Mana, cooldown and cast time but lasts longer then any other classes's heals
Over that time, has potential to heal a lot more then any other heals in game.
So that's mainly the problem. Maybe a "fix" would be to last a lot less longer (like 30 secs- 45 secs) and have a reasonable cooldown (Not talking about 10 mins here..but maybe something like 180 secs)
What would that do ? Of course it would also affect other melee classes like Bm's, barbs and seekers, but it would not give the impression to always have it on. Would make those classes not able to "afk auto-atk" something for too long . Would also make sins recast it more often. Would people be more happy ? I don't know, but it's a thread about BP and how it's OP and how it should maybe be "dimmed down" so I guess any idea is good...Proud supporter of the new expansion. Sure it has it's share of bugs, like any games. But for a pure farmer/grinder, that's a whole lot of new mobs to go beat up b:chuckle0 -
Sir_Puma - Raging Tide wrote: »The thing is, each class (or close) has some kind of heal, but also with drawbacks..
Clerics
Plenty of heals, but all have cast time, cooldown and mana cost.
Mystics
They have heals too, with cast time, cooldown and mana cost.
BM's
Diamond Sutra is our self heal, but costs a spark and mana. Channel and cast time too
Barbs
They have sunder. 2 sparks and mana, with channel and cast time.
Venos
They have a self heal too.. Cast time, channel, mana...
Seekers
A bit far fetched, but they have Last Stand as 79 skill. Uses mana too.
Wizards
They have one too, but with long channel and cast time, and mana...
Psychics
They have one too, with channel, cast time and not sure other cost..
Archers
Hmm ok.. I think they don't have any..(If they don't have one, they should and I understand their QQ about BP not working on them)
Sins
Mana, cooldown and cast time but lasts longer then any other classes's heals
Over that time, has potential to heal a lot more then any other heals in game.
So that's mainly the problem. Maybe a "fix" would be to last a lot less longer (like 30 secs- 45 secs) and have a reasonable cooldown (Not talking about 10 mins here..but maybe something like 180 secs)
What would that do ? Of course it would also affect other melee classes like Bm's, barbs and seekers, but it would not give the impression to always have it on. Would make those classes not able to "afk auto-atk" something for too long . Would also make sins recast it more often. Would people be more happy ? I don't know, but it's a thread about BP and how it's OP and how it should maybe be "dimmed down" so I guess any idea is good...
the part with the psychic skill "bubble of life" is the cooldown time mainly...makes it mostly ineffective in combat situations.....unless your a high enough lvl to take the hits while your engaging bubble of life0 -
ShadowsFlame - Raging Tide wrote: »anyone who supports to remove bp is a supporter of pwi to make more cash...
Sooo when PWE makes money off of people playing the game it's a bad thing? How do you think they keep the game servers up and running? And have you ever thought the more money they make the more they will invest into the game? Things like adding more content, fixing these old glitches and just high quality stuff. I CS every once in a while and anyone who hasn't put a cent into the game has no right to complain because they choose to not fund the development.fudge da police b:shutupb:bye0 -
CarnalDesire - Lost City wrote: »lmao why would the removal of bloodpaint be any of your concern - not only does it benefit sins, but think of the bms and seekers who can also use this buff and of course the sage version is very beneficial R9 or not-- ooh just seen what server youre on....... nuff said b:laughb:laugh
Don't talk smack on DW; been on your server and was a buncha tools that didn't like helping low lvls. Dreamweave FTW sucka! b:victory0 -
Sir_Puma - Raging Tide wrote: »The thing is, each class (or close) has some kind of heal, but also with drawbacks..
Clerics
Plenty of heals, but all have cast time, cooldown and mana cost.
Mystics
They have heals too, with cast time, cooldown and mana cost.
BM's
Diamond Sutra is our self heal, but costs a spark and mana. Channel and cast time too
Barbs
They have sunder. 2 sparks and mana, with channel and cast time.
Venos
They have a self heal too.. Cast time, channel, mana...
Seekers
A bit far fetched, but they have Last Stand as 79 skill. Uses mana too.
Wizards
They have one too, but with long channel and cast time, and mana...
Psychics
They have one too, with channel, cast time and not sure other cost..
Archers
Hmm ok.. I think they don't have any..(If they don't have one, they should and I understand their QQ about BP not working on them)
Sins
Mana, cooldown and cast time but lasts longer then any other classes's heals
Over that time, has potential to heal a lot more then any other heals in game.
So that's mainly the problem. Maybe a "fix" would be to last a lot less longer (like 30 secs- 45 secs) and have a reasonable cooldown (Not talking about 10 mins here..but maybe something like 180 secs)
What would that do ? Of course it would also affect other melee classes like Bm's, barbs and seekers, but it would not give the impression to always have it on. Would make those classes not able to "afk auto-atk" something for too long . Would also make sins recast it more often. Would people be more happy ? I don't know, but it's a thread about BP and how it's OP and how it should maybe be "dimmed down" so I guess any idea is good...
Nope us archers don't get healing crutches like everyone else b:chuckle0 -
CarnalDesire - Lost City wrote: »lmao why would the removal of bloodpaint be any of your concern - not only does it benefit sins, but think of the bms and seekers who can also use this buff and of course the sage version is very beneficial R9 or not-- ooh just seen what server youre on....... nuff said b:laughb:laugh
LOLOL....Cleric on Dreamweaver loves BP! makes my job SO easy...IO just gotta have buffs and rez covered. Free exp.I don't see people begging for Assassins to come save them.
I don't see people spamming for BM or Archer buffs in Archosaur.
I don't see people asking to be revived by Barbs, Seekers, or Psychics.
You know what I do see?
'OMG I NEED A CLERIC!'
'Any clerics nearby that can buff me?'
'Can you rez me? I need a rez.'0 -
HP pot cost on us LA sins would be insane without BP.
If BP ever gets removed i'll just quit lol. Its what keeps meh alive !
Eh maybe i'd play my mystic or veno instead, but i wanna keep BP no matter what. Its smexy. I am debating on going sage just for 3percent. 0
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