For the last time!

Shayd - Raging Tide wrote: »

Maybe they should KNOW, I can't replace Cleric, Seeker can't play as TANK and I can't Heal whole squad and tank mob with my Salvation mob when stupid seeker dies! Blame me and Rage quit! **** you cash shoppers!

You really need to **** and gtfo.

I'll edit my post in case you're too stupid to realize it.

1. Mystic's can replace clerics.
2. Seekers can tank almost anything.
3. Yes you can heal the whole squad if you are smart enough (clearly you aren't).
4. You don't even know that your Salvation is a pet and not a mob.
5. You were bad enough to let a seeker die from a mob?
6. You died from said mob?
7. Yes, I am blaming you for how bad you are.
8. You cannot blame your stupidity on cash shoppers.

Shayd - Raging Tide wrote: »

Here's my answers to your ''Pro'' advices, I hate morons like you, I also hate the idea of 3BH's a day

I'm a college student as well. I can't afford to pay to spend a butt load of money for this game anymore than you can. That's not an excuse for being bad at your job. Quit blaming other people and take their advice, maybe you'll learn something. Learn from those that are better than you. I can solo heal on my level 60 mystic, bh51. Want to know her magic sword? A tt60 sword that was given to me over a year ago for free by a fac mate. After all this time, it isn't even refined. Want to know why I can solo heal the instance? Because i'm not a moron trying to tank it at the same time as healing it. If you're the healer, use salvation and give the protection buff to the tank. This will give you more than enough time to give falling petals to any dd dumb enough to grab aggro. Use your plants, both of them. You're not responsible for DDing if you're the sole healer, you should IF YOU CAN, but you should conserve your mana for healing.

Don't blame your failures on cash shoppers, because cash shopper aren't running BH51. Cash Shoppers who don't know how to play are hypering to level 100 in FC.

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Why automatically kick the mystic though? I've noticed that phenonomen a lot when even a good player chooses an alternate role. If you've been silly enough to fill the squad without finding a cleric or deciding on a healer, it's not the mystics fault for choosing a DD role. Surely if you HAVE to kick, you would kick the lowest DD or worst geared player?

I kick them because it shows they aren't a team player. I'll take an undergeared person doing everything they can for a squad over someone who flat out refuses to use their skills for the squad's benefit any day. Just like i'd kick a sin who wouldn't bp melees because "they prefer to conserve mana." A barb who won't tank in a squad that has no other tank, and a cleric who doesn't tell me they prefer to metal mage before the squad was full. I don't kick any of those people if they tell me so from the beginning and let me find others though. I've run in two mystic squads, two cleric squads, and two barb squads. I really don't care and usually recruit on a first come-first serve basis as long as we can finish the instance. It's on them to say if they would like to play that way. If they don't, it shows poor teamwork and communication.

Why should I kick another player because these people with alternative play styles are either being selfish or communicating poorly?

OP is a butthurt noob that can't play mystic well at all. At first I was willing to overlook that and give the benefit of the doubt but the more he posts, the more obvious this becomes.

Yo OP, how about you go learn your class before ranting on the forums and making yourself look like an idiot?

OP, roll another class, Mystic really isn't your thing...

What are the mods waiting to close this thread? Or do we need to turn this flame war even worse than it already is in order to get their attention?

Hi.

I solo healed a bh 79 at level 85. Not by choice; I got into squad, then noticed the lack of cleric. Run went smoothly. Do I like being sole healer? No. It's out of my comfort zone. But if I must, I do it.

Nama had no issues for mp before she hit 75, and I never had to use an mp charm (wth for?) Concentrate orbs ftw.. 75, I definitely had no issues with mp, then at 79 I got Clear Thoughts.

Yes, the res buff takes a lot of mp. But I'd rather buff a clericless squad with it (even one with a cleric; it's the healer's best friend) than having the squad wipe.

qq your mp? TOUGH ****ING COOKIES. (see? I can type in caps too!)

And I dare you to come back and call me an oracle noob. I slept through zhen squads and woke up with drool on my keyboard and keyprints on my face.

@ OP i strongly suggest you reroll, possibly a veno since you seem to perfer healing your pet over a tank, or if you dont wanna buff roll a archer no one will yell at you for not buffing.... well no one except maybe a veno or 2

Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »

lol@archer buffs

*sigh*

='( mita makes me pay her everytime i archer buff her shes so mean

Shayd - Raging Tide wrote: »

I will not squad heal unless you pay me, I will not heal tank and then rage when he dies and i die cause he did not pay me, I am jealous of cash shoppers cause its SOOOOO hard to open a catshop when im at school and make millions.

Oh I get it now

I've never even played a Mystic. I've been playing on and off since 2008 and I can tell you: the OP is right about a lot of things.

When I still come on and play, I do so mostly on my cleric. At first I hated the idea of making a support class but fell in love with clerics when I met a few great cleric PK-ers early in my PWI career. That's when I decided I should make one. So I did make one and he's presently level 72. Since I've done mostly BH to level him up (and a bit of grinding) so far, I've had to get used to the support role of a cleric, which is a lot different than the DD role I had as an archer and also, briefly, as a mage.

A support class is tough to play, it requires you to be on your toes at every point throughout the instance. You can't just afk somewhere without saying anything and expect to catch up with your squad who won't have even noticed you were gone or who have been secretly hoping you wouldn't come back cause you fail.

Problem is, over the years the quality of random squads has seen a sharp decline. When I did my first instances (FB19 and 29) as an archer, I was a mega-noob. Seriously, I'd put MAG into my build because it was my first time playing this game and I thought "Hey, why not put some MAG into it for some extra MP so I can fire more skillz? They look cool and bright and shiny and I actually do some damage with them!". I also would always rush first to attack mobs and bosses, which never ended well for me.

However, even as I was fail, everyone else in squad was calm and knew their role. They not only prevented squad wipe from occurring but they also taught me what I shouldn't be doing as a DD and when and how I should attack. They taught me to control my aggro so I wouldn't steal it from some other guy who was tanking the damn boss.

All these things were not just necessary, they were vital for me to understand the game and be able to continue playing it. Nowadays, however, it seems like more than 50% of the people in random squads have no clue as to how the game works. And I'm not talking about 2x-3x people, as it was the norm back in the day. It's usually people 70+ and even 80+ who fail miserably at playing their ******n class. FFS, everyone's tanking! How the hell could you expect, not just a mystic, but even a fully fledged support class, like the cleric, to be able to heal everyone who are just rolling their face on the keyboard and hoping for the best? Lots of oracle and especially hyper-noobs are running around instances doing crazy things I'd never thought a semi-intelligent person could do, especially at that level.

Playing as a cleric, I'm constantly plagued by fail DDs who think they're the tanks, even though there clearly is a seeker (or in some cases even barb) in squad. Fail sins usually don't know how to control their aggro and don't even try to do it. Fail archers usually rush ahead and start their zhen skill, crying out "Heal me!" while you're 50 meters away and trying to keep the actual tank alive. Fail mages and psychics give me the creeps - they start attacking before anyone else does, grab aggro and either die in 2 shots or start zhen (mages) and think they'll fix one mistake with another.

People sometimes complain I should BB. Why the hell should I? Yeah, I got the skill but I'm not wasting 100 mp/sec. I know from experience that all these instances (at least up to 69) work perfectly when you're using just IH and purify, as long as everyone does their job properly. BB actually spoils people and lets them off guard. Everyone starts acting like a hero and thinking they could do whatever they wanted, as if this isn't a Chinese MMORPG, but ****ing Counter-Strike or Battlefield. Then, in the next squad where no BB is available, they still behave as if someone's watching over them and healing them the whole time.

A healer's job is to heal the tank, as is the tank's job to take all or most of the damage. A DD's job is to deal damage, that is, to shorten the time needed for a healer - tank duo to kill off the creep on their own. There's nothing more to it than that and no DD should expect to be treated like a tank when they're not a tank. It's that simple.

Present day squads are increasingly fail and I can clearly see why the OP has a valid point for many of the things he said.

I really don't trust the expert advice from anyone who has played for 3-4 years and highest toon is a 78 sin...

OP I am talking to you... We can see what toons you have by simply clicking on your forum pic and browsing the list....

Unless your like me and you have 3 accounts each with toons over 100...

Now to the discussion at hand... I find it ironic that most "knowlegable" people in the game are also the ones that know the least amount about the class they are playing...

Run a few instances at any lvl and you will see them.... Fist barbs (at 78) trying to solo mobs and bosses in bh 59

Fist wizz's trying to punch the fc bosses to death because aps do more dmg than there spells....

the sin who runs ahead into a group of mobs and dies while saying I CAN SOLO and then complaining the healer didn't him...

The cleric who yells at the tank for dieng from all the aggro while he the cleric did nothing but dd the whole time

And of course the clerics who don't know what Ironheart is

The barbs who don't know what flesh ream is

The bm's who don't know what diamond sutra is

The veno's who don't know what Bramble guard is

The archer's who don't know what wings of grace is

The sins who don't know about inner harmony when they are always asking people for chi

The psy's who don't know what psychic will is

And I stop there since my mystic and seeker are only in there 20'sb:surrender

GumyBear - Raging Tide wrote: »

Yes, but HOW are they going to KNOW you can't heal if you don't tell them! Gosh, your making yourself sound like a moron b:sweat

Because he thinks every mystic is either a cash shopper or the same skill level as him. Anyone who says they aren't a cash shopper but are able to do something he can't, is obviously lying.

Preach it! /highfive

b:cute

You're no pro bm if you don't attack with claws, poleaxe, poleblade and dual swords all at once.
Sorry to break your illusions bro :<

Instead of laughing at you, I would give you advise.

Shayd - Raging Tide wrote: »

-Buff whole squad with rez buff, it costs 15k of MANA!

If you complain about a buff that lasts for 15 minutes (which I know that is not level 10, it costs 2660 MP), 30 second cool down. I agree it costs a lot of MP but that is not an issue here. There is such thing as concentrate orbs, flourish orbs and focus powder at that level... It can recover 50/100 MP per second for 10 minutes, so multiply by 30, 1500/3000 MP recovered, so if you use level 10 resurrect which costs 2660 mana and you have on concentrate orbs, you will have an extra 340 mana every 30 seconds.

Shayd - Raging Tide wrote: »

-Expect me to heal whole squad because everyone is tank and just crush into group of mobs raging ''OMFG Mystic noob y u no heal!'' and kick me out

The reason why you are kicked and you are called a fail (noob) is because you are likely to not use your comforting mist, healing herb and vital herb.

Comforting Mist Level 10
Mana 968.8
Channel 3.5 seconds
Cast 1.0 seconds
Cooldown 6.0 seconds
Weapon Unarmed, Magic instrument

Requisite Cultivation Aware of Discord
Restores HP of group members within 20 meters
by 720 plus 18% of your basic Magic Attack.


Requisite Cultivation Aware of Discord
Restores HP of group members within 11 meters
by 342 plus 9% of your basic Magic Attack.

Healing Herb Level 10
Mana 547
Channel 1.0 seconds
Cast 1.0 seconds
Cooldown 6.0 seconds
Weapon Unarmed, Magic instrument

Required Cultivation Aware of Discord
Summons a Healing Herb that restores 125 points
of Health every 2 Seconds for all nearby friends.
Healing Herb appears for 1 minute.
Healing Herb has a certain chance of evasion.

Healing Herb may not be Lysed.

Vital Herb Level 10
Mana 1040
Channel 1.0 seconds
Cast 1.0 seconds
Cooldown 35.0 seconds
Weapon Unarmed, Magic instrument

Requisite Cultivation Aware of Coalescence
Summons a Vital Herb, which restores HP to
nearby friends every second and increases their
HP recovery by 50 points per second.
Vital Herb appears for 20 seconds.
Lysing has no effect on Vital Herb.
Costs 1 Spark.

You even have rapid growth to channel comforting mist faster, learn to speed up channeling. You have faster pet healing than veno and definitely faster healing than cleric... I could just use break and clouds, falling petals and heal summon on 3-4 ally targets... learn to use shift + 1-5...

Shayd - Raging Tide wrote: »

-somehow heal, recharge mp of my pet and attack with it

You are wasting your MP on a squad as a healing role class, clerics and mystics are the same, just because mystics do not have regeneration aura, does not mean they are not clerics. It is okay to attack, clerics attack too, but watching over your squad members are the most important, which is why a lot of random squads fail because they do not act as a team. Charging your MP on your summon is a bad idea in a squad, use energy leech instead because most likely your summons will die pretty quick anyway.

Shayd - Raging Tide wrote: »

All of this at once, Decide, Heal, shield or attack, this is for all FAIL SQUADS because i've seen oracle noobs just demanding more than it is possible. I also have enough of mother****ers leaving squad after one boss, dieing every second, crashing squad, I'm wasting thousands on teleport stones just to discover squad left, and 10K went to **** itself, or buff everyone, waste MP charm i bought for MILLIONS and leave. LEARN IT, If game outgrowns you, you can't handle it, LEAVE, leave space for normal players, WE are NOT clerics!, LEARN THIS FINALLY!!! It's ridiculous i have to spend 2-3 days do to ONE BH in while i should have done 9 and bunch of quests to cover skill and repair bills which are HUGE, PLEASE DO LEARN IT once again i have enough of telling this why it is so hard, If you aren't Tank or Healer this doesn't give you excuse to turn off your brain! I am playing since 3 years and this is worst **** i Ever seen so far, bunch of noobs coming in raiding Cash shop and showing off more armor than brain! I do not expect responses I want you to pass it on and send every moron to this topic, Game is sussposed to be fun, time killer and not stressful because bunch of morons who got laptop for christmas decided to **** people off.

Oracle noobs? You are the one to talk, I use oracles, authentic work, scrolls when I find them from grinding / questing, and get friendship crystals and some fun items like pumpkin head pills. What about you doing crazy hunter and bounty hunter? Heaps of fail squads are there, yet they are beyond easy to do, I just multiclient solo-BH because it is easier to do that than to bother saving unorganized and non-preparing squad all the time.

MP charm at that level? If you wasted millions ... then that is bad, go harvest some butterfly herbs and serpentine herbs, it is your loss because you don't know what to use. Repair bills? Are you taking all the hits? Very very bad... I have low repair bills even when I am tanking a whole instance like TT, not higher than 35k worth of repairs and I get like 15-20K average (in TT squad).

You have played for 3 years? I don't believe you (maybe you started three years ago and took a long break) I have played for 3 years and I had fun every time I play this game. I also cash shop, but not for enhancing my gameplay, so don't call all cash shoppers failures, because not all of us do the same things.

My advise is, practice / experiment with your characters and items before you bother doing a squad. Thank you, have a good day.