Mystic advise

DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »

Wait till you're lvl 100, otherwise you'll get roflraped so bad it isn't even funny.

Learn how to operate your safety lock, I have a feeling you'll need it.

Make a class other than mystic. They are possibly the worst PvP class in the game...

Any mystic who properly knows how to play their class can be as deadly as any character in the game. Sins are the exception for obvious reasons.

To be quite honest, any mystic that knows their tricks, can be the most annoying ****er thing to deal with.

control skills based off which pet you ahve out or which plant you summon are jsut as obvious as a bm coming in to stun you. easily avoided. the only skill hard to see coming is that random chance aoe seal thing.

the only melee class that can hold anyone in one spot is an assassin. bm's can't do it without occult. and i was zippering when i got stunned in that last part of my vid that you decided to point out

actually bm vs wizzie on teh ground even better in teh air. without occult you can jsut spam distance shrink and blink before roar of the pride can cast. no genie needed. you have to get it jsut right ot do it on the ground for some reason. i think it has somethign to do with range though im not sure.

actually, i've played bm extensivly way back when it was all about stun lock axe/vit build. if you start roar of the pride even a hair early while they are still stunned from drake bash/aeolian roar stun will fail. there is always an opportunity to blink between stuns since it is instant and the stun skill has to be channeled just right. Still requires a bit of work to blink out just in time, actually in some pvp i was just recording i blinked out of a drake bash only to still be stunned by it 20m away. bm had to run over to me to continue punching.

There is the possibility that my ping plays into blinking between stuns. i usually play with a ping from 80-150 and connections dont get a whole lot faster then that. that could cause my "instant" skills to be a little closer to instant cast then other ppls. my fps is garbage though due to an older comp/overheated.

mobs technically have 0 ping because they act from the server only, which explains why you'd have a hard time evading their stun

DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »

mystics control skills are a joke. Nothing screams "incoming stun!" more than summoning the pet used to stun...

what he said

DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »

I personally believe they're not so hot for PvP for a few reasons.

1) your damage is rather negligible in my opinion. When I was lvl 98 I pvp'd against a r8 +10 mystic. Needless to say I lost, but it should be mentioned that he couldn't 1 shot me with the mystic ultimate, which is pretty bad...
and your absorb soul combo to deal phys damage only hits as hard as plume shot.

2) your defensive skills are limited. Your heals don't stack which is one big issue. And that damage absorbing shield you have seems to go away after 1 or 2 poke skills.

3) the biggest problem is your horrible lack of control moves. You have the only pvp enabled knockback which is nice, but pretty much nothing else. In PvP it's all about who can hold down the opponent longer, and mystics are pretty limited in their ability to do that.


That all said, the person above me is correct in saying that you guys are psychic killers. You're like the only class that has any hope in beating psychics 1v1 consistently.

Oh and don't get too hyped up from youtube pk vids. As you may of noticed, the person who made the vid never shows themselves dying (in the portion I watched anyways), and I'm pretty sure they have died...

Also take note at how many times they won because of a crit. Ijs that being a class with a low crit %, and depending on crits for your KO power isn't a good formula for pking.


Anyways, sorry if I crushed your hopes of pking as a mystic b:shutup
You're free to prove me wrong, but I thought I'd weigh in with my opinion so that you could stop yourself now if PvP is really going to be a big part of your gaming life.

I don't like responding to old posts, but I feel the need to give my own input on this.

1) True, mystic probably has the least dph potential out of all casters, without self buffs anyway. Mystics have quite a few ways to cheaply increase their own magic dmg, but it isn't always necessary anyway. Mystic ultimate, thicket, is not used for its dmg, but rather for its nicely lasting seal/freeze debuff, and if it's demon, it also has a nice chance to amp all incoming dmg with the same debuff as the bm dragon skill.(Although the description of it only says 25% chance to amp, it seems to activate much more often), but the fact that thicket can't crit and doesn't get any base mag atk bonus should tell you it isn't used for its dmg. Oh, and we also have a plant that spams a decent sleep chance, it's pretty useful to kite bms and sins around the plant and watch the sleep continuously interrupt any stuns they manage to get in.

2)Mystics probably have by far the best survivability of all casters besides a +10 psy against aps chars. It doesn't matter that we don't have stackable heals(although we do actually). Stacked heals can just be kited, but mystics can get a larger amount of hps at a moment's notice than clerics can, also not even a r8+10 wizzie ulti has been able to one shot me through my pet shields, and then I can just easily shrug off an dmg in less than a second with a fast heal, not that these will always be there, just saying the shield has its uses, especially against fish.

3)Mystics have more control skills than sage wizzies... Gale Force is definitely not a joke, especially if demon, it almost always seals/freezes, nothing random about that. Did I also mention it's the largest dmg aoe in the game outside of genie skills? And 100 mystics can make it crit on every single target.

Also, if you watched the very end of that video, Koro was able to charm bypass a full r9 wizzie and archer, although admittedly, they could've reacted much better, but they didn't. (Majority of HL r9s for ya -.-) Were they full JoSD? Idr, but it doesn't matter because the skill he used ignores attack and defense lvls, so they'd have better survivability with worse shards.

XXZeonXx - Harshlands wrote: »

For you HL players, the Mystic was Voltaire and the Wizzie was Rocketpower, btw.

That was not Rocketpower, it was KissMySpells... Rocket and I don't fight really. Well the other day he did attack me and the moment I had him locked down, I got instagibbed by sumrandomsin(well, it wasn't random, but you know sins, they'll wait for a very long time till you forget they're even there and the moment you're vulnerable...). But really, that's what Kiss gets for getting the r9 weap before the gear...

Also, I've seen a full r9 mystic tank the attacks of one of the most well known full r9 archers on our server with just his own heals, and then promptly 3 shot the archer with our lvl 1 spam skill, for anyone else to wants to say something about our survivability and dmg xP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAuSelBtqj0&feature=youtu.be that's the mystic btw. Our dmg sucks doesn't it? Also you can see another vid recently posted by him where he tanks Demon Sparked nirv dags without coming close to death, although full buffed.

Edit: I wanna see Burnout vs Nurfed_You :b

That's pretty interesting. While I haven't really had much problems with r8 wizzies or below I guess it's just a scaling thing or could be that most non r9s invest too much in their weap and not enough in armor. Really sucks that they nerfed thicket's proc rate in the patch where they introduced r8/9 recast though QQ It used to just about always work on targets that didn't have tidal protection on. Now that's no longer the case :c But I think Mystic vs Psy is actually in favor of the mystic, but I've yet to see an end game mystic vs an end game psy.

Well, yeah but mystics have a lot of ways to attack psys indirectly so their buffs won't be as effective as they are against other classes, and the absorb soul will ignore any defense lvls from jades and white voodoo, and it's also not effected by their buffs or breaks sleep. Psys have the worst pdef of all casters unbuffed so if they get slept it might be over.

And here's from the prospective of a r9 psy. http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=15202441&postcount=22

Nurf you come to these threads every-time to troll mystics because it is one of best classes in the game and you get pwned everytime a mystic is unkillable with maxed out gear and you if you know what your doing in less than a second you can pop up to full health also combined with fact that any skill can be a crit anytime you want. can sleep, stun, freeze, seal, casting slow downs, and the list goes on. It is the most complex class in the game and takes allot of skill to master. Btw mystic easy one shots any psy in the game doesn't matter what voodoo they are in and that also includes the other arcanes as well. The problem is there are hardly any skilled mystics, also you cant be a clicker and be good on a mystic.

lawl i havent been trolllin mystics to hard. yeah mystics are hard to take down 1v1. and they can kill you if thicket procs. other hten that they are very predictable. o devil chiyu is out ima get stunned. storm mistress is out? i shoudl be wary of an matk amp and be ready to kite. salvation out they are just trying to survive long enough to build chi and turn the tables on me.
you tlk like mystic is the best class in the game. they are good but no better then a psy or sin.

i've never been one shot by a mystic and casters are the classes that usually kill me. and yeah i've seen the rapid growth leech storm mistress combo. impressive daamge for a class with a lot of support skills but not enough to one shot me or any other similarly geared caster.

I've also been fighting burnout's mystic here lately. if he doesnt play comepletly defensive and only go offensive when thicket procs then i kill him. other hten that its jsut a charm burn fight. with full buffs we probably couldnt kill each other at all. and thats him with JoSD me without.

in several posts i've stated the pros and cons of mystics. yes at r9 they can kill other r9 classes without to much difficulty....but im pretty sure its been established that r9 gear doesnt balance out the r9 weap damage, specially on caster classes. so good luck with your trolling. i'll be posting a video of some of mine and burnout's fights.