My Brief History of PWI

Saintblu - Sanctuary · June 2011

This is to show how much the game then changed, and how was when us old players was coming up.

First off the world pvp and questing: This was a time when everyone was around 30-40. We all used to go out and quest, and the pvp was all over the place instead of just in one area. There was no BH's or fcc.

Second is Secred Passage pvp: Everyone well a good portion of the people has finally reach lvl 60 after the harsh grinding, and doing your 3 quest per lvl for **** exp. This was a time when the barbs, and Bms owed pvp because Sacred Passage favored their class, do to the 10 times gravity effect in there. The barbs really shined because they found out about their OP skill Armageddon

3rd Genies got released: Do to the op barbs from their insane hp the bms needed a quicker way to kill them and thus they invented the Combo Heaven's Flame + Thurderstorm(Genie skill) which did insane damg. Questing was still crappy, meaning you had to grind most of your lvl, untill you got to lvl 72 and did gamma. People was around 60-80.

4th FCC + Lunar weapons and packs: You had a few people who reach lvl 100 and a couple of them was lvl 90+, but most of the people was around 70-85. These pack really changed pvp thus giving birth to the cashshoppers. This when you started see barbs with 18-22k hp. Archers and wizard started hitting extremely hard. This was also the birth of Oracle users.

5th Tideborn got release: Pwi gave us some new classes(Assassin and the Psychic). Who was both op and thats what changed pvp forever. This single move had people afraid to enter pvp mode, They thought is was not fair that we have to fight a foe who we cannot see.

6th OP gear part 1: Pwi released Nirvana armor and gear. This made the cashshoper unstoppable in pvp. This is when the complaints started happening about cashshoper and alot of people started leaving the game.

7th Hyper lvling: PWI release hyper stone and people found out you can lvl fast is you combine them with fcc runs. This alone was the reason instead of taking 1year to get to lvl 100, you can do it in a few months, even weeks if you had the money.

8th OP gear part 2: They release ranked gear, and rep pack to make the cashshoper get it faster. This was the release of R8 and R9

9th Where we are now: I just gave you a tour of how this game has changed so much. At this point pvp has moved out of Sacred Passage, and moved to West Archosuar or Great lake. All of the classes has became Over powered if you have the money to make them that way. They releases two new classes, but they didn't make a huge impact on game play or pvp.

Now Im happy to have shown you the breif history of pwi, for all the new people who was interested in how us old player came up.

SeverusSnape - Raging Tide · June 2011

Let me have a go too :P

PWI interviews about how the game will not cater to cs-ers but will only sell items of convenience, which in no way will give cs-ers an advantage in gameplay.

Gold was around 100k. People usually met someone when they quested and partied with them. It was hard to do bosses like jewelscalen etc unless you were in a faction.

Events like jolly jones happened, merchants also began to make profit, the forerunners to pack merchants.

Zhen parties used to make enough money to have mana charms etc. Players can solo fishing zhen spot to make a lot of money.

Meet and greet events where GMs met with everyone in server to show off new aerogear etc. Even though they were super laggy, it was mostly fun.

Plenty of forum posts from gms. Pet bleed glitch QQs.

Highest achievable rank was 6. You had to practically live in fbs to get it. 7 and above were next to impossible. End gear was TT. Players spammed fb 69 for calamity axes. Herc venos spammed fb 79 for misty ring which sold for 10 mill +.

The rare purple horsey from DQ was my goal.

New server, starting day sale.

Chests of coins were released. Few people recognized this as the first ever quest requiring cs-ed item to complete. minimum gold set at 200k

Genies were released, changed. Autopaths. Mys merchant chip price

The most events interaction time in PWI. Like locating the gm shop from pictures posted in forums. OR guessing which gm word was legit and guessing the whole sentence and pming the gm about it in game "ask not what your faction can do.." etc.

Packs were released to celebrate anniversary, promising to be a one time only thing.

New server, which always came with oracle, etc sale. Players asking for new servers with no pack sales/chest of coins.

Packs still in shop, under new name. Always getting its removal date extended.

No more gm meet and greet, new packs had all new mounts etc. No more rare mounts etc, everything available from boutique.

Only way to get best gear was to merchant or spend money.

Discount sales making gold rise up a lot.

Continous denial from GMs abt jolly jones not being a coin sink, discount sales not causing gold hike, rubberbanding was due to our crappy computer (i remember a post where gm asked a detailed info abt our system etc, which made me believe it was made this complicated just to shut players up abt the issue. Which got funny because many players actually gave their full detailed info about the problem :P)

The queries asked by GMs to devs taking monthS to reach its conclusion.

Last year getting as much as 3-4 weeks of pack free days. This year was 2 weeks of discount free packs (confirmation?)

rank 9, broke the game in favour of cs dominance, but don't worry. As you can get gold from game coins, r9 is for everyone (yay) and not just hard core merchants or cs-ers. don't mind the gold to coin ratio./sarcasm

Also put in bh quests somewhere in between this. Leveling is easy but that's a good thing because there used to be many posts about hard lvling in old days.

PWI rolling in profit.

LovesTragedy - Lost City · June 2011

You forgot the part where Oracle hoars existed in the form of Scarlet Fruit and cash shoppers still dominated before packs. It was just that the gear cash shoppers had before packs is nothing to what it is now, so people tend to forget it. But it was still completely op to the rest.

Also, Rank 8 was out before step 8, it was just harder to obtain. But it was still completely cash shopable from the moment packs came out.

Other than that, pretty decent history, though I miss highlights like zhen parties and all the pvp wars at world quest stops.

StormHydra - Sanctuary · June 2011

2008-->Very Early 2009.
At first the hardest known boss in the game was Jewelscalen.
The entire server would scream 'gratz' when a faction took a lvl 2 city (which was not owned by another faction). It was the biggest achievement.
Gold was 100-150k max.
World Bosses were almost never killed,. Now they die in 5 mins from 5aps squads trying to farm perfect shards and chrono pages.
Veno's were so OP. Flesh Ream dealt 100% damage in PvP (not sure if that's fixed now). And 50% MP/HP recovery spell made them the best grinders.
Early 2009
I started posting on forums in April.
Perfect Iron Hammer + Chest of coins made coins inflate. 1mil coin injected into the economy every second and gold went to 200k +
THe only servers available were Sanc, HT and LC
Aniv Packs - May 2009
Gold at 500k
Legendary (huge faction on sanc) started to die because half their players quit when Aniv packs were released.
Aniv pack sale was extended no less than 3 times
Later half of '09
Coral Packs...LOL. Aniv packs under a different name. Literally.
Hyper EXP..LOL. Released for the reason: so that "casual players who only play 1 or 2 hours a day will be able to keep up with more serious players". Dumbest logic ever.

Reshanta - Sanctuary · June 2011

Mine can entirely be summed up with the word heartbreak.

Innamorata - Harshlands · June 2011

Memories..

Okeano - Harshlands · June 2011

StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »

At first the hardest known boss in the game was Jewelscalen.

OMG I remember trying SO HARD to kill Jewel. I miss that b:cry.

SinFulGodX - Sanctuary · June 2011

Let me try and i joined not too long ago

Hmm everyone was 9x's or 100+

Gold was 900k

There was everything we have now except EG and PV (if it even counts as a real instance)

Not too long after i joined we had our first pack sale since i played. Since then there has always been atleast one pack on sale (except a period of about 3 days)

Now gold is 1.3-1.5mill

b:surrender

XSloth - Harshlands · June 2011

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

OMG I remember trying SO HARD to kill Jewel. I miss that b:cry.

^this

aww I miss Hiroto now >.<

Renza - Raging Tide · June 2011

2008: people had to actually play the game, squads were everywhere for stuff like fb's, zhens and perhaps even PK squads on pvp servers.

2011: people don't need to kill a single mob outside a dungeon and get level 100, they don't need to farm a single boss for there equipment, the game is now a casino for PWE.

OggoKing - Sanctuary · June 2011

Lol I like the game in 2011 I like packs it gives great gear and I like FCC and hypers lol its great funb:laugh

Mavalen - Dreamweaver · June 2011

I've just started my journey into this game...this was a really good read and an interesting bit
of player written history....if not slightly sad to hear.b:shedtear

However I'm having lots of fun so far. I love the art and visual style of the game.

So far so good.

Saintblu - Sanctuary · June 2011

Mavalen - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I've just started my journey into this game...this was a really good read and an interesting bit
of player written history....if not slightly sad to hear.b:shedtear

However I'm having lots of fun so far. I love the art and visual style of the game.

So far so good.

Yeah my point of this is for the newer players to understand how far this game then came, and how much it changed for us older players. Yeah it's a decent game untill you find out that in order to fully enjoy it you need to spend alot of money on this game. Out of all the games I played this one took the most money out of my pockets.

TigerLily - Lost City · June 2011

and 99.99% of those who started around 2010/2011 wants to kill you irl everytime you start talking about PWI-history and the old days. The dont care at all how the game has changed. They care about current changes they can relate to and the future.

Thats a fact actually and i usually respect it. Only thing that makes them vomit even more is when people start talking about PW-MY and Oracle/Delphi, than you can be sure they will suddenly have an irl emergency and go afk.

Personally when i start playing a MMO i really dont wanna keep hearing how it use to be 3-4 years ago from veteran players over and over either b:surrender. Makes me fall asleep and it makes me feel left out.

But it was way easier to play this game without cash shopping back in 2008/2009. You leveled way slower of course, but it was easier to make friends since you usually did things like leveling and farming as a group. PvP was all over the world map to and not just West Gate and Silver Pool. For non cash shoppers the game was more friendly before i would say.

Miekkailija - Sanctuary · June 2011

Back in time, in the beginning of the 2009.
I reached lvl 60 and got my petrified femur. It was amazing to get tt weapon back then.
The best times i had in PW were the 2009 Secret Passage pking. Anyone from sanctuary remember GodHatesYOU, Verticoli( pk legend) or maybe N.W.O faction? I always took part to sp pking and i managed to win archer of my own level in 1vs1 pk fight! Legendary, Nefarious and NWO were the best factions in sanctuary back then. I even had a chance to join Nefarious, but i wanted to stay in my own guild Finland. Nowadays its like many of here have said: money rules everything. EDIT: btw Saint, i remember you from sanc too

your name is familiar and i guess we have met at SP.

Saintblu - Sanctuary · June 2011

Miekkailija - Sanctuary wrote: »

Back in time, in the beginning of the 2009.
I reached lvl 60 and got my petrified femur. It was amazing to get tt weapon back then.
The best times i had in PW were the 2009 Secret Passage pking. Anyone from sanctuary remember GodHatesYOU, Verticoli( pk legend) or maybe N.W.O faction? I always took part to sp pking and i managed to win archer of my own level in 1vs1 pk fight! Legendary, Nefarious and NWO were the best factions in sanctuary back then. I even had a chance to join Nefarious, but i wanted to stay in my own guild Finland. Nowadays its like many of here have said: money rules everything. EDIT: btw Saint, i remember you from sanc too your name is familiar and i guess we have met at SP.

How can you remember N.W.O and not me? Thats sorta insulting.xD I was a main member of nwo like vert DarkExile Missb frotis ect.. Xd

Destroyer_X - Sanctuary · June 2011

i liked the game more back in the "old days" , as i started with Sanctuary server, i grinded my *** off to get to 60... then 80, after a 1,5 year brake, now i did it in few days on my seeker, the only thing i dislike is that ppl dont play this game anymore, they just skip 99% of it, then farm nirvana or tt for coins... the ppl buying fcc heads is a shame ...

i would like the idea of a new server, and im dont have a problem with E.G. or Tideborns, even hypers are ok , keep the damn packs, but make FCC 85+ or at least 75+, that would make ppl to actualy play the game, and not roll an alt to 100 in 3days

ps: i remember you saint, verticoli missb all of the big names, ayanochan etc, PK was Godly back then, not just 1 shot bullsht

FrozenPhire - Lost City · June 2011

Bad game. good luck with it. b:bye

StormHydra - Sanctuary · June 2011

Miekkailija - Sanctuary wrote: »

Back in time, in the beginning of the 2009.
I reached lvl 60 and got my petrified femur. It was amazing to get tt weapon back then.
The best times i had in PW were the 2009 Secret Passage pking. Anyone from sanctuary remember GodHatesYOU, Verticoli( pk legend) or maybe N.W.O faction? I always took part to sp pking and i managed to win archer of my own level in 1vs1 pk fight! Legendary, Nefarious and NWO were the best factions in sanctuary back then. I even had a chance to join Nefarious, but i wanted to stay in my own guild Finland. Nowadays its like many of here have said: money rules everything. EDIT: btw Saint, i remember you from sanc too your name is familiar and i guess we have met at SP.

That **** was fun.
New World Order died really suddenly for some reason and Leg/nef/Outlaw filled the gap.
I remember GodHatesYOU trolling everyone in world chat and tbh he was hilarious.
World Chat trolls these days are so unoriginal..singing friday or making mexican/racist jokes. Obvious troll is obvious.

ProtocoI - Harshlands · June 2011

Does anyone remember the valentines day event where you farmed the flowers (males only... Bs) and people couldn't get flowers so instead they would lure jewels to the site and wipe the whole field? Lmao

Or when people tried their hardest to get horsemen amulet and necklace because %6 more exp helped so much when it came to grinding?!

Or remember when the best grinding classes were archer and veno till about 49-60 when BMs and aoe grinding was the best thing ever?

Remember when you hit 70 and you were officially considered a "high level" and you would actually spend the longest time doing world quest for the "good exp"

Remember when people knew what the 50 hidden quest actually was???

Remember when a stun lock actually equaled death until around 85?

Remember when people actually gamma-ed and delta-ed for levels and the servers would get an influx of stones?

Remember when you could never get a zhen spot and you would either wait or pk for that spot?

Remember when trying to do the eye of crimson without a high level barb was a death sentence?

Remember having to do fbs with ur own level and coming out with the funniest stories of when some people died?

Remember grinding on the snowmen at Christmas with a bow and people would do it because they wanted to level and "it was great exp"

That's only a sliver of it all but dang do I miss it so much

yengcheng · June 2011

SHET gold was soo damn cheap back then NOW ITS JUS FKEN TO EXPENSIVE I WANT IT BACK THE WAY IT WAS.............GM"S MAKIN MONEY ON US >:O

XSloth - Harshlands · June 2011

ProtocoI - Harshlands wrote: »

Does anyone remember the valentines day event where you farmed the flowers (males only... Bs) and people couldn't get flowers so instead they would lure jewels to the site and wipe the whole field? Lmao

Or when people tried their hardest to get horsemen amulet and necklace because %6 more exp helped so much when it came to grinding?!

Or remember when the best grinding classes were archer and veno till about 49-60 when BMs and aoe grinding was the best thing ever?

Remember when you hit 70 and you were officially considered a "high level" and you would actually spend the longest time doing world quest for the "good exp"

Remember when people knew what the 50 hidden quest actually was???

Remember when a stun lock actually equaled death until around 85?

Remember when people actually gamma-ed and delta-ed for levels and the servers would get an influx of stones?

Remember when you could never get a zhen spot and you would either wait or pk for that spot?

Remember when trying to do the eye of crimson without a high level barb was a death sentence?

Remember having to do fbs with ur own level and coming out with the funniest stories of when some people died?

Remember grinding on the snowmen at Christmas with a bow and people would do it because they wanted to level and "it was great exp"

That's only a sliver of it all but dang do I miss it so much

>.< this makes me wanna try a Private server,just to get the old days back

Lythianaa - Dreamweaver · June 2011

ProtocoI - Harshlands wrote: »

Or when people tried their hardest to get horsemen amulet and necklace because %6 more exp helped so much when it came to grinding?!

Remember when people knew what the 50 hidden quest actually was???

Remember when trying to do the eye of crimson without a high level barb was a death sentence?

Remember having to do fbs with ur own level and coming out with the funniest stories of when some people died?

Remember grinding on the snowmen at Christmas with a bow and people would do it because they wanted to level and "it was great exp"

That's only a sliver of it all but dang do I miss it so much

These were my favorites, but my all time favorite was the FB one b:chuckle

I remember constantly trying to do FB 19 over and over again with my veno and was wondering why my pet kept dying so fast. I microed the **** outta those darkbreed wolfkins >:D

Lu$t - Sanctuary · June 2011

people keep saying zhen = cash shop.... zhen =/= zen! b:angry

_blood_rain - Sanctuary · June 2011

Lu$t - Sanctuary wrote: »

people keep saying zhen = cash shop.... zhen =/= zen! b:angry

Lol, let them keep thinking that, I personally find it hilarious. Like Hwilight Hemple b:chuckle

ProtocoI - Harshlands · June 2011

Lu$t - Sanctuary wrote: »

people keep saying zhen = cash shop.... zhen =/= zen! b:angry

Oh contrare, back in the day when gold was 100-200k it was quite easy to farm for zhen one day to get a day of zhen the next (considering minus about 10k each time it virtually paid for itself)

Lu$t - Sanctuary · June 2011

ProtocoI - Harshlands wrote: »

Oh contrare, back in the day when gold was 100-200k it was quite easy to farm for zhen one day to get a day of zhen the next (considering minus about 10k each time it virtually paid for itself)

But it's the mere fact that most people don't know zhen = aoe Q_Q

ProtocoI - Harshlands · June 2011

Lu$t - Sanctuary wrote: »

But it's the mere fact that most people don't know zhen = aoe Q_Q

@(0.0)@ wow, that's pretty bad lol but then again I bet when they think "aoe" they think of "300k for heads in fc, pm random 10x sin" sadly.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver · June 2011

b:sleepb:sleep ::wakes up:: huh? Cut out that noise whippersnappers!

Honestly though, I don't get why these threads keep getting made and I was here before BHs and when genies were brand spanking new and bunch of people still thought they were pointless. Yes, a lot of things have changed but if you don't enjoy it, why play anymore? I reminiscence sometimes with others who started when I did, but beyond that I don't see the point of making a new thread solely for the purpose of telling new players how it was. Why rain on their parade if they enjoy it by complaining about how much better it used to be.

It's a video game, if you don't enjoy it anymore no one is holding a gun to your head. It's not a business and that money you spent isn't a real investment. Stop thinking of it that way, you don't sit in the movie theater's bathroom/lobby all day forlornly because your movie is over and you spent so much on it do you? No, because you spent your money to entertain yourself. IT entertained when you spent it, but eventually like all things it gets boring after a while. Also, I don't remember 100k gold, but I imagine it was also only for the hard core since you had to get it through grinding and most people were not level 100s with lucrative farming instances. I don't see all of the old players with more gold than they the could possibly ever spend because there wasn't all ton of stuff to buy and gold came so easy. In fact, when I look at those old threads I see a lot of people that wondered how to earn a good amount of gold in THAT economy too. And were given advice like don't teleport.

Escorian - Dreamweaver · June 2011

ProtocoI - Harshlands wrote: »

@(0.0)@ wow, that's pretty bad lol but then again I bet when they think "aoe" they think of "300k for heads in fc, pm random 10x sin" sadly.

-.- i have ran into people who didnt know there was anything in fc past the heads

StormHydra - Sanctuary · June 2011

ProtocoI - Harshlands wrote: »

Does anyone remember the valentines day event where you farmed the flowers (males only... Bs) and people couldn't get flowers so instead they would lure jewels to the site and wipe the whole field? Lmao

Remember when people knew what the 50 hidden quest actually was???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2psU3b6lTU
Omfg Jewelscalen into a group of 80+ people...hilarious.
On PvP servers Wizards/BMs must have been getting 10+ kills everytime they aoed.

Hidden quest - I still remember gathering those crystal things near FB39 and getting a massive amount of exp

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