New EPIC TW Strategy?

calculators wrote: »

I'm curious to know what do you guys from all the servers collectively think about this scenario:

One of the top guilds on your server has both its main guild and its alt guild on the map. For the sake of simplicity, we shall call this guild ButtHurt. So there is ButtHurt, and BabyButtHurt on the map. Both guilds get attacked, and the attacks end up in the same time slot. The leader of ButtHurt then.. you guessed it, gets butthurt that he/she/it cannot defend both at the same time. So what they decide to do is mass migrate a bunch of mains from ButtHurt into BabyButtHurt so that they can keep all the lands, while at the same time mass QQing that other guilds have alt guilds on the map too.

Then one week, ButtHurt places a bid on a land. They get outbid. So the ButtHurt leader rallies his/her/its members to send tickets reporting the other guild that outbid them for "fake bidding." Due to mass volume and epic QQ, their requests are met by the GMs, and the flock of dodos flies home cawing "victory."

Then, in between, they decide "hey, that was super effective, why don't we employ this tactic in other venues, such as getting members of that guild that pwns us banned for either offensive names, or multiclienting, or ini editing their characters? Nevermind the fact that half of our members have ini edits, and some with offensive names (including the leader). It's us, we're the chosen people. We can do whatever the hell we want." So they do it, and again, they succeed.

Fast forward to yet another week where ButtHurt had been outbid, most likely because their leader is too stupid or too stingy to place a sufficient bid (you'd think someone would learn, wouldn't you?), and what do they do? You guessed it! Spam the GMs with tickets claiming yet another fake bid.

So, in total, there is a guild which has no trouble whatsoever holding its own in TW, on more than one faction, yet its leadership and member base systematically resort to the "Ban Strategy" in order to achieve their wants in TW.

Is this cowardly? Manipulative? A gross injustice? Exploitation and abuse of the TW and ticketing system? I'll let you all decide. Feel free to discuss.

Hmm so let me get this straight, everytime such said "ButtHurt" faction gets outbidded for whatever reasons by another faction (regardless if this faction is capable or not of standing a legitimate chance to win) they resort to using this "ticketing strategy" to get the leader of the opposing faction they bidded on banned? What if the leader of that faction had nothing to do with that other faction/s outbidding "ButtHurt"? Seems most unfair to me if this person gets banned for unjusified reasons just because "ButtHurt" faction members spammed the GMs with tickets as a strategy to stop this faction from bidding the following weeks and to discourage its members.

Do GMs have preferences with "cashshoppers" rather then "non cashoppers or small time cashshoppers"? I think they do.

Do GMs overlook when 'cashshoppers" break and/or abuse the system? I think they do.

Do GMs side with the faction that holds the most 'cashshoppers' and go on banning spree
that other players that are "non or small time cashoppers" from the opposing faction just because the cashshoppers said so? Maybe they do (I think that's what this thread is all about)

In my most humble opinion, if "ButtHurt" can't win a legitimate bid, or get so upset over the fact that they couldn't manage to win the TW, they shouldn't resort to abusing the ticketing system (I don't think it's legal but since the gms are allied with them "the cashshopper" it becomes legal?) to the point it becomes complete and open hatred and harrassment (which is also not legal). It drains out all of the fun this game has left aka TW (hardly with so many 1shots from r9s) and the spirit of competition and fairness gets blown out of the water.

It's all a BIG conspiracy theory and me myself think that is real as I am witnessing this patterns everyday here in Sanctuary. Shame on you GMs if this is real, you might aswell give this ppl back all the money they've spent on the game to make up for your lack of standars and they misery you've put this players through.

I also have some wonderful ideas for this new sucky system you call "TW bidding", read below:

Any faction that declares war on another faction territory should meet the following requierements:

A) Faction lvl 1 should have the minimum of 40 players that meet the 100 TW hours to be able to place a bid.

Faction lvl 2 should have the minimum of 80 players that meet the 100 TW hours to be able to place a bid.

C) Faction lvl 3 should have the minimum of 160 players that meet the 100 TW hours to be able to place a bid.

D) Only a Faction lvl 2 or higher will be able to place a bid on a Lvl 3 Faction.

E) All bids will be announced with which faction and how much coins.

F) The faction must have a legitimate chance to win for it not to be considered a fake bid (therefore only lvl 2 faction that can field 80 members with TW hours are allowed to place a bid on lvl 3 land-holding factions)

This way we would make sure only serious factions with the intention of fighting are the only ones bidding, at least it should help minimize the fake bids. I haven't even worked around this idea much since I consider is so obvious and anyways, not my job.

Dig more into an issue before letting off the Banhammer GMs and for the love of God try be a bit more unbiased, your community can see it clearly and it doesn't affect anyone else than yourselves. No wonder PWI lost over 20% of its players serverwide since the first release of anni packs LOL amoung other things.

Hate me all you want, my 2 cents. b:bye

This happens on my server, the leader of a 180+ person faction encourages everyone to mass submit tickets, and results are seen.

Sometimes i really think the gms don't have clue. A faction can use out of game means + unsportsmanlike conduct to achieve advantage in game.

Now honestly the GMS ban with discrimination. If you have cash shopped zero you are treated differently than if you've spent a lot. A veno in my faction, lvl 100 who had cash shopped zero was perm banned for account sharing with his irl brother.

lets stop the QQing and play the game Aubree hmm?

you failed with EQ, you failed with Tempest and now even with your new intandem, you make these posts on forums and make your faction look desperate.
Once again, you only see whats in front of you and never whats ahead of you.

If you insist on being a leader and succeeding, do so with your own accomplishments rather than trying to base your credit on making others look bad.

you are one of the last people that should be QQing about gank; i'm just reminding you of your own values. so lets cut it out and enjoy the game.

stop whining and enjoy the game aubree

//athan - Dreamweaver wrote: »

hmmm again, werent u leader of EQ then Tempest? who were ganking Calamity on purpose? and even with Dynasty?
b:bye



show against regen, and atack us, and we will see b:cute

You missed the TW we showed against regen and won? Sorry you missed that! We attack who we want. You or Andres don't control who I attack.

@ Maz He needed give room for a no show TW LOL kk yea yea we go with that one!! It sure isn't cause they aren't sharing leadership or anything. That would never happen.

@Ez Ajay started the ganks against Cala, or did you forget? I just continued his strategy. Now, I don't need to gank and regen does. I just find that LOLOLOLOLOLOL but you get the point. And my faction only has 160 members.

Really I think you are all the butthurt ones cause you couldn't roll us and let alone win a 1v1. Must have damaged that ego pretty good. I do feel bad for the ones who actually want to TW in Regen. Ofc I always have room for them in my faction b:victory

A little regen kitty did purr in my ear tonight about booty going after EQ tho.. That's interesting... Hmmmm

Tyramera - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Move the DW discussion to the DW forum please. That forum is boring right now and can use some drama b:laugh

Pay attention Ty b:laugh

Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »

I still remain convinced he was referring to the situation on RT. b:shutup

@ Ez but you proclaim you know so well? All I hear is

QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ * I wanna do over QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

Again with the misinformation. I left EQ in Nov. Never asked anyone to go with. It isn't my problem if people felt they needed to go with me rather than stay in EQ. Jazy pm'd me like a day later asking if I would be upset she stayed. I said no ofc I wouldn't. Ask her. Biggie and Val left sometime later too. I had never asked either to leave but did say why I left. They later left and went to regen for the very same reasons. You talk so much yet no nothing? You just hear the rhetoric and take it as truth. Zero, bodine and jami etc all left before I started my faction. They went to fishies faction QQmoar. I said hey I'll get vent forums etc and we can do a TW faction there. Tell me why the leader of EQ not being able to hold their players is my fault? I may have asked 3 people I know as good players to join my faction. But I am allowed to do that. Stop crying over lost players. They have free will. The 2 I asked are still in EQ are still there. I only asked once. I don't beg. I don't brainwash. They had free will too. Am I to blame for those who went to regen? Or where does that fault lie?

Wow....

I've thought about applying to some of the larger factions before on my server, but after skimming through all of this...........I think I'll just stay in my nice quiet faction. b:thanks

good for you
so there is no need for further discussion

now let's enjoy pwi b:victory

Nuke_Cleric - Sanctuary wrote: »

Hmm so let me get this straight, everytime such said "ButtHurt" faction gets outbidded for whatever reasons by another faction (regardless if this faction is capable or not of standing a legitimate chance to win) they resort to using this "ticketing strategy" to get the leader of the opposing faction they bidded on banned? What if the leader of that faction had nothing to do with that other faction/s outbidding "ButtHurt"? Seems most unfair to me if this person gets banned for unjusified reasons just because "ButtHurt" faction members spammed the GMs with tickets as a strategy to stop this faction from bidding the following weeks and to discourage its members.

Do GMs have preferences with "cashshoppers" rather then "non cashoppers or small time cashshoppers"? I think they do.

Do GMs overlook when 'cashshoppers" break and/or abuse the system? I think they do.

Do GMs side with the faction that holds the most 'cashshoppers' and go on banning spree
that other players that are "non or small time cashoppers" from the opposing faction just because the cashshoppers said so? Maybe they do (I think that's what this thread is all about)

In my most humble opinion, if "ButtHurt" can't win a legitimate bid, or get so upset over the fact that they couldn't manage to win the TW, they shouldn't resort to abusing the ticketing system (I don't think it's legal but since the gms are allied with them "the cashshopper" it becomes legal?) to the point it becomes complete and open hatred and harrassment (which is also not legal). It drains out all of the fun this game has left aka TW (hardly with so many 1shots from r9s) and the spirit of competition and fairness gets blown out of the water.

It's all a BIG conspiracy theory and me myself think that is real as I am witnessing this patterns everyday here in Sanctuary. Shame on you GMs if this is real, you might aswell give this ppl back all the money they've spent on the game to make up for your lack of standars and they misery you've put this players through.

I also have some wonderful ideas for this new sucky system you call "TW bidding", read below:

Any faction that declares war on another faction territory should meet the following requierements:

A) Faction lvl 1 should have the minimum of 40 players that meet the 100 TW hours to be able to place a bid.

Faction lvl 2 should have the minimum of 80 players that meet the 100 TW hours to be able to place a bid.

C) Faction lvl 3 should have the minimum of 160 players that meet the 100 TW hours to be able to place a bid.

D) Only a Faction lvl 2 or higher will be able to place a bid on a Lvl 3 Faction.

E) All bids will be announced with which faction and how much coins.

F) The faction must have a legitimate chance to win for it not to be considered a fake bid (therefore only lvl 2 faction that can field 80 members with TW hours are allowed to place a bid on lvl 3 land-holding factions)

This way we would make sure only serious factions with the intention of fighting are the only ones bidding, at least it should help minimize the fake bids. I haven't even worked around this idea much since I consider is so obvious and anyways, not my job.

Dig more into an issue before letting off the Banhammer GMs and for the love of God try be a bit more unbiased, your community can see it clearly and it doesn't affect anyone else than yourselves. No wonder PWI lost over 20% of its players serverwide since the first release of anni packs LOL amoung other things.

Hate me all you want, my 2 cents. b:bye

wall of text x.x

but do you remember more than a year back when somebody in nef left the faction, made this own faction and did a fake bid to somewhat try to protect nef? our leader got ban too b:surrender

i think the way pwi works is leader needs to be responsible for their members action, and there is no such thing as i didn't do it so don't blame me!

Hmmm I feel so good in my non-TW faction b:victory

Oh the Drama isnt it heartwarming!

Tossing arround insults, being aggressive and getting personal. Not only on the Forum but also on WC theres always a member drawing my attention with wonderfully not-provokating statements like "join us if you got unlimited credit cards!".
Then wondering how it come the faction attracts hatred and gets ganked! Oh my!

Maybe one needs to be out of this TW Daily-Soap to see this cause and effect?

Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

@ Maz He needed give room for a no show TW LOL kk yea yea we go with that one!! It sure isn't cause they aren't sharing leadership or anything. That would never happen.

wow sure if u wanna see it between in lines do it. i see: our leader just dont wanna be so selfish goin into every single tw, when our members have so big % show up on our side. sadly thing, is just 4-5 mins war. and no show up on other side coz ther not enough ppls rdy to kick asses? >.>

im not saying in our faction everything perfect. but we work on it get better. dunno why its so hurt to u. u are not working on same in ur faction? if there something wrong its not coz something u faild? u know i dont rly care u guys how and where doin. i wanna enjoy my own game style, and im sure in faction there other ppls just in same. and its not fit with urs. this is why we r in different line and faction. and its all okay. would be bored if we have same mind. b:shocked

in last line in my comment: is just a game. try to enjoy and dont stress over pls . stress make wrinkle on girl's face =/ b:flower

Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

@ BloodyOne we have 6 lands. Compared to the 11 owned by regen or the 12 owned by . Yes we can say we are the underdog faction. But we also have the most potential.

only makin another comment cause the drama ball slowed down
but yea how is 6 lands on our map even remotly underdogish? i can understand if you got 1 or 2 lands callin yourself the underdog heck mabe even three lands but come on you have the third most lands on our server. b:cry 6 is such a small amount of lands these days

Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Original plan was to build then go up the left side of map. But madison came south. So what, Im going to let her attack MY faction?

i thought a faction was a group of ppl, but seems u just have 160 slaves , and ur the GOD b:victory


and funny how ur proud of that "victory", not even pulling catas lol, like i said earlier, u should maybe say "we didnt lose", cause i should remind u, crystal was at what, 2-3M? with full DD squads defending in base.

other funny fact, i remember all the wcs when IT came out, wanted to beat regen blablabla, and after this "victory" u dont atack us? i can just see ur damn ego, cause u know u cant beat us with an atack, so u just atack EQ, and u can say all the time "we won against regen :O" when some ppl answer to ur QQ posts xD

btw, since we're talking about QQ for ganks, OMG AUBREE U GANKED EQ THIS WEEK END WITH CATFACE :O :O b:shockedb:shocked u have no honor u cant beat anything or? (was an aubree dramatisationb:laugh)

b:bye

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Wait which faction is "ButtHurt" again?
The faction submitting tickets or the faction making QQ topics on anonymous troll accounts? b:laugh

By now I think both b:faint

Woops, sorry all for interrupting your all-servers-all-factions QQ wars. b:shocked

Keep going at it now b:pleased

I wonder if Intandem will no-show if Regenesis gets a 1 v 1 against them this weekend. Perhaps Aubree will go delusional and have a relapse of flash backs against the Inversion TW and start screaming and yelling for everyone to go into the Inversion TW and farm kills to make Inversion pay.

If history does repeat itself, like it has over 3 times now, then Intandem will just try to pick off the easier targets near them, while giving land away to the stronger factions who attack them each week.

By the way, I'm not going to hesitate if you threaten to submit false tickets against other TW powers Aubree. If that's what you'll try to win, I'm going to go ahead and let you know, none of them will be banned; instead you'll most likely end up banned for harassment.



FYI: None of your friends are forum mods anymore, and they won't be deleting my posts anymore.


Here is why Aubree does TW:

TW Pay