Opinion on Sword BM's

Reyoleya - Dreamweaver wrote: »

As you said, before the hype. We're in the hype. Living in the past means you never see the future before it slaps you in the face.

It's just that I don't see why a BM is called fail for using sword or pole, or how a barb is useless using his axes.
I mean if you go delta with sword, I totally agree with you.
If you go to serious TW with sword, I totally agree with you.
But going to fbs or even killing some bosses in TT/FCC, I often use my sword. Why? Because who gives a damn **** if the boss dies in 4 minutes or in 5 minutes. These days bosses die quick as hell and people still complain? I remember times where you needed a full squad for Jewel or Eyes. Nowdays people laugh their *** of seeing them. Ask a sin and he will solo obliterate that thing.

My BM is mainly sword (always backup axe) until 85, when she can use her GVs, because I didn't feel like crafting a new set of fists for four levels. Before the hype maxed she was sword/axe. But of course I realized I'd never get anywhere like that thanks to people like you, so extended to fist. And yet people like you feel they have to come on the forums and bash those of us that like to use our swords when questing or what have you... what is that to you? It is a matter of choice, there is nothing awful about it; what is awful and close-minded here, is you.

I do agree, that with the way this game is going, it is not a smart move to not branch into a variety of weapons. However, if a BM wants to use a sword questing or (as a previous poster stated) on a boss that is going down in 2 seconds anyway, that does not make them awful (in fact, myriad sword stance can on occasion be a helpful skill).

imstone wrote: »

Not that the seeker is a 1 trick pony who just sits and spins

I would hope seekers have not become only that. I do much more than vortex >>.

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

Before aps hype, most bms were pure axe build lol, I only know a handful of people that have ever used sword as their main weapon.

i knew many.

...knew..cause they almost died out.

Kaste - Sanctuary wrote: »

Before APS hype, all BMs were main sword with vit and str for Calamities at level 80.

So shoo.

Stop lying.


Before high aps became available all BMs were axe build and maybe had enough dex for a poleblade.

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »

No... A LOT of BM's either chose Axes/Vit, Pole/Vit, Axe/Pole/Vit, or, very few chose to do Axe/Pole/Sword/HA/LA (well, they might not have LA, but could equip it, and you were only regarded as a good BM if you had both sets at endgame).

An even smaller number went Axe/Fist, or fist/LA/Vit (fail build, even now, roll a sin).

Swords at 5.0 would out DPM fists at 5.0 by about 20%, as swords do 20% more damage. But, swords can only get to 3.33, which means... At 5.0, Fists are going to out DPM swords at 3.33 by a decent margin, but NOT 4:1. Probably 2:1. You might get into the 4:1 margin if you perma-spark using fists, and don't with swords. IDK for sure, I don't have a 5.0 fists or 3.33 swords character (not that 3.33 is really possible, no -int swords that I know of).

Without int swords, swords only go up to 2.22, meaning you're only sparked half the time. So I went with about 4:1 DPS. The only way to get 3.33 with swords is with a -.10 chest, which doesn't exist for BMs.

BMs have the option to use 4 weapon types. They have skills for swords. So let them use swords. Too bad no one is brave enough to do it... It's all about fists/aps and axes for stun/HF. There is no originality anymore, all the BMs are the same. If they removed the pole / sword skills, no one would notice it, lol.

back in the days before I ever quit (1 year and 2 months ago) and I had a lvl 8x wiz ect the sword BM's always and I mean ALWAYS saved me

Fladme - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Because some of us don't play a game for PvP, or any competition for that matter. Besides, you don't have to understand why someone else plays a game, you just have to understand that it's a game, it's meant for fun. Rules are meant to be broken, and a lot of us don't care about being "better".

Heck, I play for the fashions and cool looking weapons. I don't give a smurf about having an optimal build.

I'm not applying it to the casual players, I'm talking about serious / hard-core players. There's no real logic behind having a less effective build just for the sake of being different, but if it's fun and works for you then so be it.

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm not applying it to the casual players, I'm talking about serious / hard-core players. There's no real logic behind having a less effective build just for the sake of being different, but if it's fun and works for you then so be it.

Then you have a good point there. b:victory

Bm swords actually only make sense if you want to looks sexy b:chuckle

I picked up the R8 sword because it was cheap and there are better options for the other 3 weapons end-game. MSS is fine in Delta when HF/GS are on cooldown The ranged attack combined with farstrike/drake ray means I don't have to waste arrows if I'm being lazy with harpies in FC and not pulling them down to melee range. Swords are situational but not useless.

Hmmm... main is wizzy and doesn't like sword BM's, trying to get people to stop using mage bane maybe, or trying to get sword prices to go down for seeker alt?b:chuckle Some sword/pole BM's were very good and some of them even fought the same as Seeker's do now, 'cept i think they had knockbacks and used more stuns. It's probably where they got the seekers design from, then just make some stuff magic so it's not an exact copy and tweak the def buff.

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

Points to signature - Swords work darn well for me, and I've never heard complaints about being a sword bm from a squad before. I have axes for Heaven's Flame and only for that, 99% of the time you will see me with my swords, slashing anything in my way.

Honestly, I play the game to have fun. If I played the game to please other people I would not be here.

Question: How well do you do against every other class, especially against -int Fist/Axe BM's and Sins in Duels or PvP? b:puzzled