Is a barb useless?

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  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    EDIT: @ Quilue - Sanctuary

    How many bad barbs were there on sanctuary? I can only remember losing aggro to the +10 archer gods of the day in fb's with my +3 star axes ..........

    It's something called aggro control. Competent archers know how to dial back their damage so as not to draw aggro.
  • RouxLouka - Dreamweaver
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    They're kinda useless now. Just another DD. Every pve instance can be done without them. The only place they are really needed is TW.

    I even remember seeing a video of five wizards and a cleric doing delta and cheze tanking harpy before TB expansion. So you don't really even need the current end-game armors to not need barbs.
    /quit.

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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    And im sorry but barbs dont get fists skills. IJS

    WRONG!

    http://i.imgur.com/ToG5V.png
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  • ColdSnow - Dreamweaver
    ColdSnow - Dreamweaver Posts: 983 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

    WRONG!

    http://i.imgur.com/ToG5V.png

    o.o rawrgh, gimme your build please with pwicalc. i want to know how u got 5aps and nirvana fists together....want to restat mine to aps as well.
    If i m trolling and spamming on forum...then i cant sleep and need a good laugh
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Windpour - Nirvana claws
    TT99 HA wrists and chest
    TT99 Evasion ornaments
    Lunar cape
    Nirvana legs
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  • Wunderkind - Dreamweaver
    Wunderkind - Dreamweaver Posts: 315 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I bet you 50mil that your R9 +6 can't hold aggro from my +6 windpour - nirvana with 2 garnet gems.

    k, get GMs to move you servers lets go. The one warsong was +10 2 garnet deicide barb and other was +10 2 garnet G15 nirv with blood vengence str sin. It died fast and I never lost aggro, lets have some fun. b:pleased
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  • ColdSnow - Dreamweaver
    ColdSnow - Dreamweaver Posts: 983 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Windpour - Nirvana claws
    TT99 HA wrists and chest
    TT99 Evasion ornaments
    Lunar cape
    Nirvana legs

    wow awesome. i have same build, just missing the claws >.>
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  • RoidAbuse - Sanctuary
    RoidAbuse - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Windpour - Nirvana claws
    TT99 HA wrists and chest
    TT99 Evasion ornaments
    Lunar cape
    Nirvana legs

    Do you get one shot a lot by wizards?
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  • Wunderkind - Dreamweaver
    Wunderkind - Dreamweaver Posts: 315 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    RoidAbuse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Do you get one shot a lot by wizards?

    since when do you only have one set of gear you use for pve and pk?
    Currently: pwcalc.com/b4c92dacf1da8c21
  • Devlinne - Lost City
    Devlinne - Lost City Posts: 253 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    YES barb is useless!:)

    Please tell all your friends this also. SO when pk or tw, DO NOT target the barb whatsoever, keep him to the last k? He is no threat ;) Let him just move around till there are no targets left.

    OMG, what a REVELATION, don't forget to spread the word and convince your friends ;)
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  • Kinjeto - Raging Tide
    Kinjeto - Raging Tide Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Oh cheer another thread with Rawrgh

    So to 'volunteer' my time to "another wasting time with Rawrgh". b:laugh

    Here is one I prepared earlier. I believe Rawrgh has finally got game: philisophy and everything wise.

    Erm hrm...
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Kinjeto - Raging Tide wrote: »
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    Oh cheer another thread with Rawrgh

    So to 'volunteer' my time to "another wasting time with Rawrgh". b:laugh

    Here is one I prepared earlier. I believe Rawrgh has finally got game: philisophy and everything wise.

    Erm hrm...
    1. That's old, my claws are +7 now, also I have a lunar ring, also +6'd my chest

    2. Aren't you the full R9 barb that died on a pull in FC?
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Also, it's very creepy that you stalk me like that.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Also, it's very creepy that you stalk me like that.

    He likes your... Tail. b:avoid
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    100 Demon BM*/Barb
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  • tidesuxbadly
    tidesuxbadly Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Not Useless, Their Sage STR and HP buffs are needed . The rest of the barb can be discarded at will.
  • Samsama - Harshlands
    Samsama - Harshlands Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    BARBS ARE AWESOME.
    APS BUILD BARBS ARE AWESOMER
    BARBS ARE Useless :3 b:bye
  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Kinjeto - Raging Tide wrote: »
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    Oh cheer another thread with Rawrgh

    So to 'volunteer' my time to "another wasting time with Rawrgh". b:laugh

    Here is one I prepared earlier. I believe Rawrgh has finally got game: philisophy and everything wise.

    Erm hrm...


    I see 2 socket Nirvana pants - poor thing :(

    I dont get whats wrong with that gear though, thats a pretty normal set up of interval gear for APS-build Barbs/BMs in PvE (if you cant afford Int tome).
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    TigerLily - Lost City wrote: »
    I see 2 socket Nirvana pants - poor thing :(

    I dont get whats wrong with that gear though, thats a pretty normal set up of interval gear for APS-build Barbs/BMs in PvE (if you cant afford Int tome).
    I almost cried when my nirvana legs came out with 2 sockets.


    I'll probably just add one next time those socket packs are on sale and they're selling for 6k each.
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  • Garrand - Heavens Tear
    Garrand - Heavens Tear Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    the only way a traditionally built barb can be effective is if u've got full r9, other good orns/cape + rings, and have full jade of steady defence + a few vit stones here n there. then, with the epic r9 wep u can fight back without aps.

    otherwise, u need claws + 4/5 aps b:shutup
  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Barbs are so useless I've never been refused a spot in a squad. That's how useless we really are.
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    Some people live to destroy me

    Either way they die
  • Barber - Heavens Tear
    Barber - Heavens Tear Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    dont know what barbs you guys have had tanking for ya but barbs can hold aggro at least til someone demon sparks...then its the demon sparkers problem...but if other classes knew how to manage their damage (ie: giving the barb time to build up aggro) and also how to play their classes the barb can hold aggro just fine.

    if the people want to deal as much damage, as fast as they can, then they deserve to get the aggro :p
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    BM(TooCold)=104
    Seeker(TiltedKilt)=104
    Assassin(Spongeworthy)=104
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  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Barb's are extremely useful, and I love my Barb. Working on getting my BM to 5aps atm, then my Cleric to 100 w/ R8... Finally, a 100 5aps sin!
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    Firefeng - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Which, given a standard criterion of performance like in Perfect World, spells out the death knell for anyone performing beneath an 8th grade level. (Assume a 5 aps Sin with +10 or more refines on his gear is post-graduate level, and...)

    What Rawrgh said wasn't incorrect, you're just too far behind to understand how correct he was. A flawed system, to be sure, but one we still willingly choose to live under, for better or worse.

    The only thing he's "admitting" is that he plays aggro pingpong with some of the best DDs in the game. Oh, such a terrible tank he is.

    Didn't say he was a bad tank either. I'm saying that bragging about being able to beat non 5aps people and anyone with worse gear is pointless and tells me NADA, NOTHING, ZERO about his capabilities.
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited April 2011
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    More like it isn't necessary. If I glitch tiger form with claws I have 5.0 aps with 14.5k hp, and I can tank just about every instance in the game. Delta gives me a bit of trouble but as long as I pay attention I'm fine, and this is with a base VIT of 20 and an average refine of +4

    And exploiting a glitch isn't impressive.
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