Clerics extiction
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No, we are not extinct, just tired. For anyone that has not played a cleric as a squad healer, I challenge you to try it! It is insanely intense game play, we can't even sneeze as a split second can decide whether the squad lives or dies! Complaining about lag? You have no clue how one lag spike can cause absolute chaos for a cleric!
The way the squads bounce aggro now usually means an exhausted, stressed out cleric. Imagine every time someones hp even twitches that you have to switch target, start healing, only to have your target change less than 3 seconds later!
Ow! Did that sin/archer/wiz just lose half their hp in one hit?! b:surrender If I am mid cast on someone elses heal and you stole aggro, even with -36ch, I still may not be able to switch to you and cast a heal fast enough! b:shocked Some admit to their "squishiness", how nice. Take some responsibility for your own char! Guess what?! We have low hp too! While we are healing you whiners, we are consuming pots, hp food or ticking hp charms to make sure we don't die so we can keep the squad alive!
There is little or no communication, how about just a "ready?" before you jump in and get killed by that group of mobs in Warsong?!
Just a few days ago: FB 79 in hallway leading to Stygean the lvl 92 sin says "Set up your bb right here" (as they move to the end of the hall away from Sty). I ignored them... I was a lvl 100 helping on 79 and have been playing my cleric for 2 years. What happened? The sin lured, the archer hit Stygean on the way in, stealing aggro from the sin and Sty went running in the opposite direction. I, having ignored the sin, immediately healed the archer with Wellspring Surge to save them and then started healing the bm until the sin finally caught up with Sty and started to take him apart. If I had listened? Half the squad would have wiped because I would have had to cancel my bb and run into heal range to start healing.Don't tell me get a life! Honey, I'm a gamer, I've got lots of them! b:victory0 -
I dont think Clerics have become extinct. I believe theyve become smart enough not to join random squads anymore, but do stuff with people that they are comfortable with.
In the end its all about teamwork, which random squads usually lack. I can go farm for hours with my set squad while having fun being the cleric, 10 mins of random squads, however, usually make me wanna RQ that squad because no one cares about the one next to him.
I guess im still lucky, because i barely got blamed for any stupid mistakes, maybe its an attitude thing tho. If i see someone suck, ill tell him straight to his face. He quits squad... not my problem (since usually i only join randoms to help friends/guildies out anyways).
Guess im really lucky to have found people i enjoy being the cleric with, i know other clerics out there, arent that lucky. So my advice: If you find people that you are having smooth runs with, FL them, grab em and never ever let them go again xD[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Riverwalker - Sanctuary wrote: »No, we are not extinct, just tired. For anyone that has not played a cleric as a squad healer, I challenge you to try it! It is insanely intense game play, we can't even sneeze as a split second can decide whether the squad lives or dies! Complaining about lag? You have no clue how one lag spike can cause absolute chaos for a cleric!
I don't know what you're smoking, but playing cleric is easy as long as the party is somewhat proficient.
You can't stop a fail party from failing every time, no matter how good you are.
If you have horrible HP that's your fault. Restat some mag to vit. Unless you have amazing gear, you should have at least 50-100 pts in vit. With a +5 99 weapon your heals should be good enough.... for pretty much anything.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Most instances are BB anyway...hows that stressfull.0
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Most instances are BB anyway...hows that stressfull.
I hate the fact that that is true, even when it shouldn't be. BB in FCC? Okay, fine. It lets the tank collect a room and the DDers then take out their own mobs. Sure.
BB at a simple BH boss like Pyro or Stygean, just because you have 2-3 people in squad playing aggro hockey? No no no. LEARN TO MANAGE YOUR DAMAGE AGGRO. BB is expensive (charm/pots go poof very fast), and I hate using it, because it makes me feel helpless when I'm in it. I'm not going to BB just because your squishy two-shot Sin wants to see if he can steal aggro from the squishy 3-shot Sin!
Sure, the boss dies faster, but it doesn't feel like a team when DDers are making the tank's and cleric's jobs all the harder, just for the lulz.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »I don't know what you're smoking, but playing cleric is easy as long as the party is somewhat proficient.
You can't stop a fail party from failing every time, no matter how good you are.
If you have horrible HP that's your fault. Restat some mag to vit. Unless you have amazing gear, you should have at least 50-100 pts in vit. With a +5 99 weapon your heals should be good enough.... for pretty much anything.
Michael_Dark....... "somewhat proficient" party... yeah, those oracle and fcc noobs make for FANTASTIC squad members, don't they??? Or how about the lovely idiots that run ahead, pull the AOE mobs back to the squad to cancel your bb and pile on you because you drew heal aggro???
I'm not smoking anything, I have been playing my cleric for 2 years and love it. I'm fortunate to have a very good build and decent, but not epic, gear.
VIT??? What were YOU smoking???? If I have to use a pot or hp food because I have AOE mobs on me that the squad doesn't have the brains to protect their cleric from... that doesn't mean I need VIT. pffft Thats what refines, citrines, hp pots and foods are for. b:chuckleDon't tell me get a life! Honey, I'm a gamer, I've got lots of them! b:victory0 -
I just made this cleric a couple days ago. why?
because I see in WC "LF 4.0+ DD and cleric for nirvana"
half an hour later you see same person: "LF Cleric only for nirvana"
and its like that pretty much everyday from what I notice. So while the clerics are being lazy and playing DD alts, I'll be the cleric that answers those world chat calls and get a place in lots of nirvy runs b:chuckle
fact of the matter is: there actually are barbs on this server, including my main - but not many people ever really ask for them for the stuff they actually need.
Theres lots of DD classes, and at end game - if you have decent gear you are tank quality already, no need for a barb to tank eg. nirvana. But seeing as how there already are so many - one is easily replaced by another.
Clerics are still needed / desired by enough people to make it worth the effort to roll one still - IMO.0 -
Lana - Raging Tide wrote: »I dont think Clerics have become extinct. I believe theyve become smart enough not to join random squads anymore, but do stuff with people that they are comfortable with. In the end its all about teamwork, which random squads usually lack. I can go farm for hours with my set squad while having fun being the cleric, 10 mins of random squads, however, usually make me wanna RQ that squad because no one cares about the one next to him.
^^ this, especially the part in bold.Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder b:chuckle0 -
Flickerfae - Sanctuary wrote: »I hate the fact that that is true, even when it shouldn't be. BB in FCC? Okay, fine. It lets the tank collect a room and the DDers then take out their own mobs. Sure.
BB at a simple BH boss like Pyro or Stygean, just because you have 2-3 people in squad playing aggro hockey? No no no. LEARN TO MANAGE YOUR DAMAGE AGGRO. BB is expensive (charm/pots go poof very fast), and I hate using it, because it makes me feel helpless when I'm in it. I'm not going to BB just because your squishy two-shot Sin wants to see if he can steal aggro from the squishy 3-shot Sin!
Sure, the boss dies faster, but it doesn't feel like a team when DDers are making the tank's and cleric's jobs all the harder, just for the lulz.
First heres a question how do you use more mp by BBing? when the boss dies twice as fast, you even admitted that they died faster like this, besides mp food is cheap as dirt if your that concerned about it i will give you a few 1000 coin now so you can BB without losing any coin
Second BB is boring from what I know not hard, in fact its easier, how does it make a tanks job harder if they don't have to worry about their chi and spamming ream as much as possible
Now had you said That a tanks job gets stolen like this, or that its plain boring for cleric then you would have had some good arguments
Now I will admit I wrote this with my sin in mind, but I tried to look in a clerics perspective as well, where as i don't see you doing this with DDs0 -
Flickerfae - Sanctuary wrote: »I hate the fact that that is true, even when it shouldn't be. BB in FCC? Okay, fine. It lets the tank collect a room and the DDers then take out their own mobs. Sure.
BB at a simple BH boss like Pyro or Stygean, just because you have 2-3 people in squad playing aggro hockey? No no no. LEARN TO MANAGE YOUR DAMAGE AGGRO. BB is expensive (charm/pots go poof very fast), and I hate using it, because it makes me feel helpless when I'm in it. I'm not going to BB just because your squishy two-shot Sin wants to see if he can steal aggro from the squishy 3-shot Sin!
Sure, the boss dies faster, but it doesn't feel like a team when DDers are making the tank's and cleric's jobs all the harder, just for the lulz.
BB is cheaper than IH. 500 mana every 5 secs. How many IH you get off in that time.. maybe 3 x 229. BB is your cheapest heal outside wellspring maybe. But after you aquire your lvl 11 (400mp IH) BB is always cheaper. MP food is very cheap too. No need to be charmed for mp for anything except tw and pk.
If you are using hp pots you are doing it wrong. Simply IH yourself once every now and then.
Once you are lvl 100+ you are going to be doing more DD than healing. Mainly you will be in squads for reviving and occasional heal.0 -
I actually enjoy playing my cleric more than my sin. She does a decent job killing mobs, she doesn't burn through mana with no decent recovery rates and she is very hard for mobs to kill when i play right.
Granted in groups, so many people want to tell clerics what they should be doing, but i just tell them if they don't get stupid, they won't die. If someone wants to go speed running off ahead of me and start fighting something before I get there, that's fine. They just better be able to heal themselves until I get there. And if dd classes can't figure out how to not steal aggro constantly, then when they die, it's not my fault. I've had groups from hell where idiocy has killed almost everyone and perfect groups where the tank holds aggro and the dd's don't do aggro pong.
Mystics will also never fully replace a cleric. I've grouped with them at low level and high level. They can support a cleric, and if you get 2-3 maybe combined they can heal enough to replace a cleric, but then you are giving up 1-2 dd slots for that. Also, when boss fighting if things go bad and people start to die, mystics become much less helpful cuz they have to rez in advance.0 -
'Clerics are extremely slow and that usually doesn't help keeping the hyper heroes alive, specially the ones that seem to believe the cleric has to keep up with them no matter what.
Even in TW they are pointed as being slow or not being able to be evrywhere and rez everyone'
i so agree with you! people ask me to help them with my cleric, and i do...but i am nervous as a hurt cat the whole time, because no one ever stays back with the cleric now, to guard her/him from mobs the squad cant be bothered to kill in their headlong dash to the bosses. i have speed herbs (which are faster and last longer than my genie's HP does.) but the idea is for a squad to **STAY TOGETHER***, not show off how fast you can run, or how cute your moves are in useless chi battles (useless, when there is a veno there, who has a skill especially intended to pass chi to those who need it).
clerics- dont forget to bring a bundle of res scrolls and guardian scrolls nowadays...no one cares if we get killed, until they are._Thia_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »Maybe It's me, but lately it seems no one makes clerics anymore, and all clerics are playing DD alts (me included). WC became, at least in DW an endless call for the few clerics that still adventure to go in a random squad, most of times only to be blamed for anything that happens during the run, including other players high pings, all dcs, possible phone calls or pizza deliveries.
Unlike any other class clerics have to be permanently concentrated, have to heal the heroes that believe they can kill anything aka suicidal nubs.
Clerics are extremely slow and that usually doesn't help keeping the hyper heroes alive, specially the ones that seem to believe the cleric has to keep up with them no matter what.
Even in TW they are pointed as being slow or not being able to be evrywhere and rez everyone.
I suggest all clerics have 3 or 4 clones, to solve all the above mentioned problems b:laugh[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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_Aubree__ - Dreamweaver wrote: »BB is cheaper than IH. 500 mana every 5 secs. How many IH you get off in that time.. maybe 3 x 229. BB is your cheapest heal outside wellspring maybe. But after you aquire your lvl 11 (400mp IH) BB is always cheaper. MP food is very cheap too. No need to be charmed for mp for anything except tw and pk.
If you are using hp pots you are doing it wrong. Simply IH yourself once every now and then.
Once you are lvl 100+ you are going to be doing more DD than healing. Mainly you will be in squads for reviving and occasional heal.
it seems to me like a cleric that is just doing straight IH on the tank during a non aoe boss would come out cheaper on mana costs than by doing BB - given if its true that using BB enters you into combat mode, thus your natural mana regeneration rate is cut down to 25%. At this point I'm not totally positive of the mana regeneration rate of clerics, but lets take the following example over a 1 minute period:
given a base (example) mana regeneration rate of 100 per second:
Blue Bubble mana costs:
1 minute = 60 seconds
60 seconds / 5 = 12 BB "ticks" * 500 = 6,000 mana
combat mode reduction of mana regen: .25 * 100 = 25
mana regeneration without pots: 25 * 60 = 1,500
Actual mana needed to be restored = 4,500
IHB mana costs (account for 0 lag, no -chan):
1.0 second channel + 1.0 second cast = 1 IH per 2 seconds
approximate #of IHB cast per minute: 60 / 2 = ~30 IHB
total costs: 30 * 229.5 = 6,885
Mana regen with no damage reduction: 100 * 60 = 6000
Actual mana needed to be restored = 885
Judging from that, I'd say IHB is actually less costly than BB, even if your mana recovery rate were only 50
However, BB is less costly of course if the cleric is being hit by AoE, and of course if the cleric begins using their own attacks on the boss - IHB will then be more costly than BB. 0 -
the main reason we cleric dont play or are seen enought, are becuase players are demanding,spoiled sobs. they beleive its right to blame a cleric for there own faults, and everything that goes wrong. i have put up with years of it. many call me fail. yet the truth is there fail for not listening, useing the key element of team work,communication,etc.
id gladly still play my cleric more but the sad truth is. the server has become a daycare place for all idoits,ignorance to fester, i get accused of any and everything on a run. even thou id be the one normaly takeing 0% rez, lost in charm/pots . take ur pick. the fighter class's push us clerics aside like were nothing, talk down and wrongly blame us for everything. maybe we just got finally fed up and decided to play others. or quite entirely.
ive persnoly been theived/threaten, abuse, taken advantage of numrous times. i just ignore people now even when they spend 3-6 hours in wc trying to make me look bad. if u guys would realize that clerics are not an easy class esp. with "hero complex" players. or abusers( in this such people who borrow, use clerics to get there gear/quest/etc) we get very sick of the abuse. so its no suprise many of us choose to ignore cleric request. like so many in my server demanding a cleric just to use them for there own purpose.
idk think about it. i persnoly gave up lfg and finding friends becuase 80-90% have al turne dout to abuse/use and use the most childish tactics to get what they want. and to insult and try to make u look bad. the game has diegressed alot and alot due to old players and some new acting so childish about things.
simple fact remains. clerics are a very tought class to play. we are demanded for everything , blamed for everything. and abused alot. so it is the other players u should be asking why we clerics dont openly play anymore dont u think?0 -
DoctorBaal - Dreamweaver wrote: »it seems to me like a cleric that is just doing straight IH on the tank during a non aoe boss would come out cheaper on mana costs than by doing BB - given if its true that using BB enters you into combat mode, thus your natural mana regeneration rate is cut down to 25%. At this point I'm not totally positive of the mana regeneration rate of clerics, but lets take the following example over a 1 minute period:
given a base (example) mana regeneration rate of 100 per second:
Blue Bubble mana costs:
1 minute = 60 seconds
60 seconds / 5 = 12 BB "ticks" * 500 = 6,000 mana
combat mode reduction of mana regen: .25 * 100 = 25
mana regeneration without pots: 25 * 60 = 1,500
Actual mana needed to be restored = 4,500
IHB mana costs (account for 0 lag, no -chan):
1.0 second channel + 1.0 second cast = 1 IH per 2 seconds
approximate #of IHB cast per minute: 60 / 2 = ~30 IHB
total costs: 30 * 229.5 = 6,885
Mana regen with no damage reduction: 100 * 60 = 6000
Actual mana needed to be restored = 885
Judging from that, I'd say IHB is actually less costly than BB, even if your mana recovery rate were only 50 However, BB is less costly of course if the cleric is being hit by AoE, and of course if the cleric begins using their own attacks on the boss - IHB will then be more costly than BB.
Mana regen rate is not worth mentioning unless you are using apoc for regen.I dont know anyone who regens mana at 100 per sec without apoc LOL I am pure magic and my regen is 37 per sec. Also any decent amount of channeling possible will give you about 3 IH in 5 secs. Try the math again with the most common channeling on cleric at 26% for IH iover 1 min. Reduce the mana regen rate. Not all instances of IHing will be without you being in combat mode. If you do any bosses with aoe or a group of mobs in which you are taking some aggro, you will be in combat mode too. And thats a lot of the time. Don't forget that lvl 11 IH costs almost double mana but no need to include I guess.0 -
_Aubree__ - Dreamweaver wrote: »Mana regen rate is not worth mentioning unless you are using apoc for regen.I dont know anyone who regens mana at 100 per sec without apoc LOL I am pure magic and my regen is 37 per sec. Also any decent amount of channeling possible will give you 3 IH in 5 secs. Not all instances of IHing will be without you being in combat mode. If you do any bosses with aoe or a group of mobs in which you are taking some aggro, you will be in combat mode too. Don't forget that lvl 11 IH costs almost double mana.
also dont forget the fact bb pretty much pointless aside from the bless added, i rarely use it now as most boss's will do more damage then u can regen even with high channelin. ihb is one of the best becuase it stacks, when stacked right it can do nearly or around or above not sure 2k hp a tick. its like these people saying charm mp charm mp. bull a mp charm is such an utter waste. use event pots there way better and much cheaper.
but then again bare in mind the amount u heal is pased off how much matk u have.0 -
Colopatiron - Lost City wrote: »also dont forget the fact bb pretty much pointless aside from the bless added, i rarely use it now as most boss's will do more damage then u can regen even with high channelin. ihb is one of the best becuase it stacks, when stacked right it can do nearly or around or above not sure 2k hp a tick. its like these people saying charm mp charm mp. bull a mp charm is such an utter waste. use event pots there way better and much cheaper.
but then again bare in mind the amount u heal is pased off how much matk u have.
My BB heals for almost 4k a tick. With my tt99 gold it healed for 2.7k hp per tick. But then again Im sitting on 515 magic points and no vit. Also you can consider 50% less damage = to that amount of healing as well.0 -
_Aubree__ - Dreamweaver wrote: »My BB heals for almost 4k a tick. With my tt99 gold it healed for 2.7k hp per tick. But then again Im sitting on 515 magic points and no vit.
u must be lucky to not go to the boss's they will wipe a 15khp+ barb in secs then. as i have and dont see a point in wasteing 2 sparks on them half the time. in sot last night it was utterly useless. but hey maybe if i had 99-100+ gear id see it differently, but i dont, i just work with what i currently have and it seems to work.
but bare this in mind. what works for 1 may not work for another.
if bb works for u good for u, i perfer the hands on approach, it saves more then bb does most the time for me anyways.0 -
i wanted to look at the battle graphics than having to constantly just focus on the 5 other hp bar stat bar aside from my own, and the minimap to see member/mob position, and pple wonder why clerics are extinct. As a melee, its just me and the mob, i feel so freeeeeee.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »i wanted to look at the battle graphics than having to constantly just focus on the 5 other hp bar stat bar aside from my own, and the minimap to see member/mob position, and pple wonder why clerics are extinct. As a melee, its just me and the mob, i feel so freeeeeee.
sign of a true healer/support class player, is to watch for others stupidy or lack of paying attention. not many can do it , esp now with the sob that demand we rush rush rush and die for them constantly lol. but ur right as a melee player u dont have to watch u make the cleric(us) do it for u, strange how so many think thats till ok0 -
Colopatiron - Lost City wrote: »sign of a true healer/support class player, is to watch for others stupidy or lack of paying attention. not many can do it , esp now with the sob that demand we rush rush rush and die for them constantly lol. but ur right as a melee player u dont have to watch u make the cleric(us) do it for u, strange how so many think thats till ok
Honestly I think the ability of a cleric to keep up and keep the squad up makes them a great cleric. I was often complimented on that too. Yes being slow is a challenge but I always raced along with everyone as much as possible.0 -
']the main reason we cleric dont play or are seen enought, are becuase players are demanding,spoiled sobs.'
'...but the sad truth is. the server has become a daycare place for all idoits,ignorance to fester."
oh, this is so true...b:sadColopatiron - Lost City wrote: »the main reason we cleric dont play or are seen enought, are becuase players are demanding,spoiled sobs. they beleive its right to blame a cleric for there own faults, and everything that goes wrong. i have put up with years of it. many call me fail. yet the truth is there fail for not listening, useing the key element of team work,communication,etc.
id gladly still play my cleric more but the sad truth is. the server has become a daycare place for all idoits,ignorance to fester, i get accused of any and everything on a run. even thou id be the one normaly takeing 0% rez, lost in charm/pots . take ur pick. the fighter class's push us clerics aside like were nothing, talk down and wrongly blame us for everything. maybe we just got finally fed up and decided to play others. or quite entirely.
ive persnoly been theived/threaten, abuse, taken advantage of numrous times. i just ignore people now even when they spend 3-6 hours in wc trying to make me look bad. if u guys would realize that clerics are not an easy class esp. with "hero complex" players. or abusers( in this such people who borrow, use clerics to get there gear/quest/etc) we get very sick of the abuse. so its no suprise many of us choose to ignore cleric request. like so many in my server demanding a cleric just to use them for there own purpose.
idk think about it. i persnoly gave up lfg and finding friends becuase 80-90% have al turne dout to abuse/use and use the most childish tactics to get what they want. and to insult and try to make u look bad. the game has diegressed alot and alot due to old players and some new acting so childish about things.
simple fact remains. clerics are a very tought class to play. we are demanded for everything , blamed for everything. and abused alot. so it is the other players u should be asking why we clerics dont openly play anymore dont u think?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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_Aubree__ - Dreamweaver wrote: »Honestly I think the ability of a cleric to keep up and keep the squad up makes them a great cleric. I was often complimented on that too. Yes being slow is a challenge but I always raced along with everyone as much as possible.
did i miss something? your right ofc but to rush a cleric and demand them to be as fast as a 9.7m/s barb is kinda stupid, but lets put that aside. where did i say anything about the things u mentioned?
there is no challenge in people spamming holypath,cloud sprint,tiger mode. the challenge comes in figureing out what there doing as they choose to act not speak and communicate with ur cleric. imho i dont find myself slow , i find myself surronded by the seemomgly endless supply of "get ehre now" "why arent u there" " no breaks" "bathroom? rest when were done" types. that is a a challenge, and still why do u think its on us clerics to keep up and follow them like lap dogs? where there for the same reasons/goals? yet clerics are treated as bots or someone to be used more then a equal member of the party.
i also was complimented on performing better then those higher lvl then i many many of groups. dosent change the fact that ur trying to say that we must bow down follow them. whitch i beleive is wrong.imhoFoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »']the main reason we cleric dont play or are seen enought, are becuase players are demanding,spoiled sobs.'
'...but the sad truth is. the server has become a daycare place for all idoits,ignorance to fester."
oh, this is so true...b:sad
sadly it is i speak in wc all a get is childish slams,punts to my char/personilty and such. mostly from those who have done something to warrent them hideing there own distasteful past lol. but i choose to refrian from that. hence the comment we rather jsut sit back and not be known/hounded then be out there abused/used for those to get there lets say nv/100 etc0 -
Cleric is an easy class to play. I think the most reasons why people get fed up with it is because it is boring as hell. All the QQ I see from clerics are about how people demand them to rush, or mana is expensive, or someone dies and blames them. To be honest I never had a problem with someone complaining about dying. I have had super fail random squads.
I think Micheal dark already said it somewhere.Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »I don't know what you're smoking, but playing cleric is easy as long as the party is somewhat proficient.
You can't stop a fail party from failing every time, no matter how good you are.
If you have horrible HP that's your fault. Restat some mag to vit. Unless you have amazing gear, you should have at least 50-100 pts in vit. With a +5 99 weapon your heals should be good enough.... for pretty much anything.0 -
Imuretay - Heavens Tear wrote: »How much of that MAG comes from your gear?
ok, my L88 cleric has i believe 468 magic exactly in farming/healing gear...
i have 56 str for gear
i reset dex and it went down to 3, vit reset to 5, all the rest magic.
the rest of my magic is gear.
from memory:
chromancy cape: +5magic
warsoul: +5 (its ok it's 4 sockets heh ill live)
killer dawdler belt with double +5 magic (+10 total)heh
L3 tome, +15magic
the 59ish channel neck has w/e 5magic
meteor ring +8 magic
the other gold 50ish ring with w/e 7 magic
L80 ?intangible robe +6 magic
those +7 magic gold legs
purple feet with +3 magic
believ me, all kinds of changes get made for soloing ****..pdef pants, mag/vit tome, equine talisman, L80 rep ring instead of gold magic ring, sensoid wand is good for everything. this killer 1% def gold belt i found that i never saw before.
my old acalantha was 10 magic, but what's the point when the sensoid does sick dmg(2 mag dmg full gems and +5ref) and it has good defensive stats.
i was working on the 69 dungeon with lesser gear and a sakymuni for def at L83ish
it was too much work, so ill go back when i ding 89. im up to yan the traitor soloing bosses. i believe ive killed every caster boss up to yan, not sure who's next, but whoever it is, i'll smoke their caboose too.. my heals really are pretty righteous for my level. i can outheal some sick mobs and bosses now.
ill start on the melee bosses here soon, see how far i can get on them now..
i owe jewel a
thrashing: jewel5, blueSparrow 0..i even tried to get jewel stuck between cracks in rocks heh. i had 2.0 white wings then..jewel flies 2.0 loldead.
back on topic:
im farming chipmunks behind e barrier for mats to make robes just yesterday. im getting low on mana trying to rock out my mats. dude from Marine faction asks for buffs.
i notice his pal over starting to kill some of those 6 chipmunks i was farming. they were watching me for a minute too. so i ask "why?" thinking "ya, to jump my mobs even better"
and the guy says like nm @sshole or w/e.
so i gave him the "like i OWE u buffs?" and went off on them. they came over and basically were "so what r u going to do" and totally ninjad my mobs..if it wasnt a sin and a psych, i may have very well gone pk first time ever.. but that was suicide
so i told them i would leave the children and go find other chipmunks.
then i found a barb right there killing electric dino riders and announced very loudly he was getting full 1hr buffs cause he was cool.
so here is my cleric getting f'd with and no way out of it, give buffs and i have to go sit down, no buffs, get totally hazed.
few days before, the beeotch got pissy when i ignored her squad "!" and hit her with 1/2 hr buffs. loviepoo barf [insert long string of srsly mysogynistic swearing here]. i'll ** her up someday somewhere. i did recast magic shell though.
it's STILL BUGGED DEVS, BUT i used it's early cancel to my advantage muahahahaaa
the fact i dont have to think about endgame anymore really has freed me to horse around until i get bored then leave. but everyone can go to h3ll that wants me to run dungeons, other than my pals. and everyone can go to h3ll that wants buffs, except nice peeps who actually can talk a sec, and maybe ask nicely..
i also have quit qq/raging when some nab ninjas my mobs im farming.i just school them on how many mobs a srsly irritated pro farmer can kill before they can. ESPECIALLY AoE farm nabs. i watch. i count mobs and time it, and time the sit time = fail. so i steal half their mobs they aggro beforethey aoe them heh since they tried to get ALL the mobs at once i have aoe stuff and i have purify and heals and i farm wood dot mobs. heh, idiots...
btw, jones is key to my increased rate of killing. i hope we arent being bs'd and just stalled. that has helped my farming incredibly.0 -
_Aubree__ - Dreamweaver wrote: »Cleric is an easy class to play. I think the most reasons why people get fed up with it is because it is boring as hell. All the QQ I see from clerics are about how people demand them to rush, or mana is expensive, or someone dies and blames them. To be honest I never had a problem with someone complaining about dying. I have had super fail random squads.
I think Micheal dark already said it somewhere.
so u qoute someone from a different server? intresting, and i know him to funny even more. but he is right cleric do what they can and its the squad that fails not them, that was our point. but if u want to go on the other route go ahead.0 -
playing clerics are easy when you:
1) put yourself in a ideal squad. (lol 5.0)
2) easy dungeon where u just run n heal.
altho if cleric is easy all other classes are pretty much a no-brainer cause its 1/6 the concentration lol b:laugh[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »playing clerics are easy when you:
1) put yourself in a ideal squad. (lol 5.0)
2) easy dungeon where u just run n heal.
altho if cleric is easy all other classes are pretty much a no-brainer cause its 1/6 the concentration lol b:laugh
welcome to the new pwi 5.0 and easy stuff.
im reminded of a song but cant place it atm that would explain this. but anyways now that u bring that up go ahead on ur QQ and ewasy this and that thread. i will refrian now that u want to exclude the main part of MMORPG from the discussion. gl hf with ur thread0 -
Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »playing clerics are easy when you:
1) put yourself in a ideal squad. (lol 5.0)
2) easy dungeon where u just run n heal.
altho if cleric is easy all other classes are pretty much a no-brainer cause its 1/6 the concentration lol b:laugh
Same thought. Cleric is not easy compareable to other classes. Other classes are a jk when it comes to press DD button.
I think Cleric is the only class, where you need to keep 90% of all skills uptodate and actually use them.
Buffs, Debuffs, ALL healing skills (except blessing lol), 90% of all DD attacks.
While other classes have like 2-3 rows full in the skillpanel...i need and use all 6
Other then this...beeing cleric is not only "hard" to play. It has also a big pressure. Cause you know if one dies (regardless if its his own fault), it will be always your fault and the squad will blame you. Tho I myself never had this kind of exprience but i feel the pressure.
Other then this...we are the only class that can NEVER go afk while running an instance lolIf i m trolling and spamming on forum...then i cant sleep and need a good laugh0 -
ColdSnow - Dreamweaver wrote: »Same thought. Cleric is not easy compareable to other classes. Other classes are a jk when it comes to press DD button.
I think Cleric is the only class, where you need to keep 90% of all skills uptodate and actually use them.
Buffs, Debuffs, ALL healing skills (except blessing lol), 90% of all DD attacks.
While other classes have like 2-3 rows full in the skillpanel...i need and use all 6
Other then this...beeing cleric is not only "hard" to play. It has also a big pressure. Cause you know if one dies (regardless if its his own fault), it will be always your fault and the squad will blame you. Tho I myself never had this kind of exprience but i feel the pressure.
Other then this...we are the only class that can NEVER go afk while running an instance lol
im speachless u took what i wanted to say and put it here ty. here here to u my hats off to u0
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