[Server Issues] 3-25-2011
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Nael - Dreamweaver wrote: »frankie is nice enough to still give us 2x, he just did it at a wrong time.
bingoCurrently: pwcalc.com/b4c92dacf1da8c210 -
Wunderkind - Dreamweaver wrote: »Don't fall into the trap you can't reason with idiots.
You CAN troll them though, and that is way more fun! b:bye101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
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AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary wrote: »be happy your even getting compensated for something that isn't PW's fault.
their working on it. stop complaining. they know it's annoying.
Explain why is not pw's fault =,=0 -
ty for turning on 2x for all servers0
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Goooooo pw staff! You can dooooo it! Beat 'em up! mojomojomojoJOJO! *thumbs up*b:angry why isn't there a thumbs up smiley?!?!?!0
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Azura - Lost City wrote: »Explain why is not pw's fault =,=
hahaha yeah, it's pw's fault they're being attacked xD0 -
Azura - Lost City wrote: »Explain why is not pw's fault =,=
apparently you don't know what a DoS (or ddos or pdos) attack is, read the first post on this page.... If you did you all wouldnt' say it's PW's fault. Even better go to the old thread and look at frankie link, or just go to wiki (not the GAME'S wiki) and look up Denial of Servicve attack.0 -
Wow, 2x is on at 3:00 pm EDT
frankie needs to learn PST =/= PDT = server time0 -
Azura - Lost City wrote: »Explain why is not pw's fault =,=
its not PWs fault, everyone from Visa to wikileaks is getting DDOS,, one thing for sure,, its never the players fault0 -
Oo_Rinoa_oO - Harshlands wrote: »Wow, 2x is on at 3:00 pm EDT
frankie needs to learn PST =/= PDT = server time
wow um say what? they said noon server time (west coast.....)..... idc if it's PDT or PST or EST or EDT... it's still a 3 hour differrence. So what're u complaining about????? It started on time. b:surrender0 -
Azura - Lost City wrote: »Explain why is not pw's fault =,=
Uh, wow... Seriously, wow...
Leaving this one alone since it's been beaten on already, and I don't wanna say something to get me banned. -____-;101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
*Pre RB level0 -
So much hate.
Might do some ppl some good to take a break from the game, they seem to be acting like small annoying children, demanding something over and over again. The game isn'g going anywhere, it's going to be here tomorrow, next week, hell even next month. If all the DC, lost items, etc etc is really annoying you that much, just take a break from the madness and watch some tv, but god forbid you from going outside and having some really social time with IRL friends.0 -
AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary wrote: »to the fires for having a mordern sense of humor ?b:shocked
give yourself a break :pb:victory
Hehe... Let's hope so... Good thing I'm still young... b:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Veno, Archer & Psychic on Heaven's Tear...
Also a big fan of Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Star Ocean, "Tales of" games, Ys, Zelda, Pokemon & Anime...
BigHearts member... f:grin0 -
Well over the 2 years ive played its been almost impossible to get a response or anything approaching a fix for any issues from PWI.The game had a lot of potential but money talks and if it doesnt make immediate cash we aint fixing it.Well it looks like you got someone irritated thats gonna hit you right in the wallet which is the one place you may actually wake up and do something.Personally i enjoyed the game but now the greedy expansions with no look to making the game run efficiently has me turned off.So i take my hat off to the peeps who are handing you your asses atm at least they know how to get you all to work lol.See you all in WOW0
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minerva420 wrote: »its not PWs fault, everyone from Visa to wikileaks is getting DDOS,, one thing for sure,, its never the players fault
Ah but your wrong. For all we know it's a group of players DDOSing PWE so in turn it would be the players fult.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Whoever is responsible for the ddos attacks seems to be quite good at it despite all the commentary about how dumb they are or that they are probably 12 years old. Whatever the case PWI is being slammed and it doesnt look as though they are up to the task of stopping it any time soon. you might want to consider 6x drops exp and spirit since your game is that slow to respond lol.I hope that this gets you all to adress more than just the attacks security issue.Maybe there is a legit reason these guys are pissed at you .Maybe they already tried the 2-3 month ticket approach to solving it .this probably seems more effective to them.Not hating on you i am just one of the frustrated thats glad at least someone has the nads to bring some change.0
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OK explain to me how is being vulnerable to hacks not pwi fault?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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_Thia_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »OK explain to me how is being vulnerable to hacks not pwi fault?
Its not a ****. It's a bunch of computers flooding the system with fake info. All systems are susceptable to it.
You can't really block it. You have to stop the attack at its source. Every site and server from your bank to the social security admin to paypal ect is vulnerable. It's not PWI's fult. It's how the global network is set up. They are abusing the network not haccking into the servers. Alot of the time is personal computers infected with a virus being controlled by someone doint it.
To everyone cheering the DDOSers on get a life. You choose to play PWE's games. If you don't like how they are handling their business leave. Your the idiots that are sticking with a company your not happy with. How smart is that?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Tigriss_o - Raging Tide wrote: »Its not a ****. It's a bunch of computers flooding the system with fake info. All systems are susceptable to it.
You can't really block it. You have to stop the attack at its source. Every site and server from your bank to the social security admin to paypal ect is vulnerable. It's not PWI's fult. It's how the global network is set up. They are abusing the network not haccking into the servers.
To everyone cheering the DDOSers on get a life. You choose to play PWE's games. If you don't like how they are handling their business leave. Your the idiots that are sticking with a company your not happy with. How smart is that?
Not exactly true. While they may not be able to block the attack entirely, they *should* be capable of mitigating the effects on the servers. There are multiple ways to go about this, and their ISP should be doing so.
That they are not (or appear not to be) *is* PWE's fault.0 -
LappDance - Sanctuary wrote: »Not exactly true. While they may not be able to block the attack entirely, they *should* be capable of mitigating the effects on the servers. There are multiple ways to go about this, and their ISP should be doing so.
That they are not (or appear not to be) *is* PWE's fault.
Just because they appear not to be doesn't mean they aren't. The fact that it pretty much stops for the most part at the start of the business day means they are doing something. The DDOSer are just going around it after a few hours.
The ISP not doing their job isn't PWE's fault. PWE can't just change ISPs they are in a contract with their ISP. Also takes time to get a new on anyways. It's only been 3 days. I've seen this **** go on for months. It still amazes me tho how when something is going wrong everyone here turns into a specialist on the subject. I mean how many trained professionals can be on these forums? I'm not an expert but I do know it's not that easy to stop. I have seen first hand how long it can take.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
LappDance - Sanctuary wrote: »Not exactly true. While they may not be able to block the attack entirely, they *should* be capable of mitigating the effects on the servers. There are multiple ways to go about this, and their ISP should be doing so.
That they are not (or appear not to be) *is* PWE's fault.
Their servers are hosted better than most other F2P games tbh. While it is still partially their responsibility, they are a F2P game and aren't obligated to 100% satisfy optional customers. The last few F2P MMOs' servers I played would be completely overflown and require a full server restart in order to handle the attacks. PWE servers seem to disconnect a few players from different regions at a time rather than completely shutting down. This is already a lessened (mitigated) effect of an entire server shut down.BM PvP Guide: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1320761
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Can't believe how hateful you all people can be . . b:shutup[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Sorry i speak engrish b:chuckle
Nickname doesn't have anything to do with sailor but related to a folklore
Use search, it was your best friends to avoid many suffering in internet...0 -
MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »Can't believe how hateful you all people can be . . b:shutup
Me neither.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Tigriss_o - Raging Tide wrote: »Me neither.
Same here... b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Veno, Archer & Psychic on Heaven's Tear...
Also a big fan of Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Star Ocean, "Tales of" games, Ys, Zelda, Pokemon & Anime...
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Wow...so much hate b:surrender
And about the ticket/reply thing from pw...i've only ever sent one ticket in (that was a month before the whole DQ fiasco which is now working perfectly for me) and they answered within two weeks of me sending it in sooooo....
And facebook/jones wasn't working this morning but I took a break and just tried again just now. Patience me, patience ;p ...worked perfectly sooooo....
And if you're worried/annoyed about messed up fb/bh/tt/losing exp/dropping items/etc. then take a break.
And real money/charging zen? Take a break with that too.
Don't do any of that stuff until you're absolutely sure you won't dc/lose something in the middle of it. Sure missing out on 2x is a bummer, but isn't it better to take a break instead of being frustrated from dcing all the time and losing some very, very important/expnsive things?
(I'm just running around grinding by the way ;p)
The thing I'm sad about is how messed up tw is going to be for people this weekend...can't really cancel it until all this ruckus is over now can they? b:sad
Yeah, stay positive people. So impatient. They're losing money on this problem too you know...soooo....
Yeah.
Go PW staff! Beat 'em up! mojomojomojoJOJO! *thumbs up*b:angry why isn't there a thumbs up smiley?!?!?!0 -
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Jellytoast - Sanctuary wrote: »What was that nice quote? "People only notice what you're doing when you stop doing it." PWI has kept the servers up with relatively no problems recently until now, so shut it. b:victory
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Aaah, it's a shame that all of this happened. It's even more a shame when I read in several places people blaming PWi for all of it and furthermore insulting them and the GMs. I wonder if those people could even manage to keep up the server at a time like that. Of course, if they were given the chance.0
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LappDance - Sanctuary wrote: »Not exactly true. While they may not be able to block the attack entirely, they *should* be capable of mitigating the effects on the servers. There are multiple ways to go about this, and their ISP should be doing so.
That they are not (or appear not to be) *is* PWE's fault.
Uhhhh... The game is up, running, and for the most part, not even laggy.
There's an hour or so, maybe 2 or 3 hours, when the bots switch IP's, or switch tactics, and the sysadmins have to counter it.
If PWI was vulnerable, WE WOULD NOT BE PLAYING RIGHT NOW AT ALL ON ANY SERVER. Is that so hard to understand? That is the GOAL of a DDoS. This DDoS is failing, it's a MINOR ANNOYANCE.
And to be honest... It could be one person. I know of an instance where a single person was going through EZBoard's forums and hacking their forums, one board at a time. It's also possible to find, write, or convert your own script to make a bot net, you don't need a 'large team of people'. One person can control an entire bot net from a single computer... Something sophisticated enough to take down the US Government's public front page and web servers would require a team of people, and most likely millions of computers. This attack on PWI is probably a small bot net with 200-1000 computers, spread all over the world. I have no idea though, since as usual, PWE is being fantastically forthcoming with details. b:bye
And now I'm going to go play some MineCraft.101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
*Pre RB level0 -
All servers down,or is it just me ? Looking forward to the squad whipe in Bh when relogging -_-
edit nvm, the servers were up, just that on the pull down list they all had no info listed lol,my bad.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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