A non troll post by rawrgh about powerleveling

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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Surviving Tyrant during its AOE is usually just to show off...There is no way to pull aggro off some of the 3-3 bosses as an archer if they choose to go after someone in the party until they have finished whatever they were casting.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Surviving tryant's AOE can also take a good amount of time off the time needed to complete him, if you have a 4.0/5.0 APS squad, since a lot of times a DD will triple spark and then be forced to holy path away and waste it. If you're whole squad can survive it no one has to waste spark and can save a lot of time.
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    There is also a difference between playing your character expertly compared to playing in an average manner, and the average way compared to playing poorly.

    This thread is a reaction to how people do not like power levelers because they play poorly.
  • Risingson - Lost City
    Risingson - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Obviously the fact that you said all that is gonna matter. A lot.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Except there's no proof that power leveled people play poorly, at all. This game isn't hard, you give the average person a level 100 char with full endgame gears and 2 hours, and by the end he'll be able to play that class like a "pro"
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  • Wolfixxxx - Lost City
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Mendy is mine. They will all be mine in the end, for I am the Queen of Blades. None shall ever dispute my rule again.

    idk if u played the SC2 campaign, but the queen of blades is pretty much dead. dead as in she is reverting back to normal kerrigan. why? cuz blizzard fails hard. -______________-
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    This game isn't hard, you give the average person a level 100 char with full endgame gears and 2 hours, and by the end he'll be able to play that class like a "pro"

    Occult -> spark -> auto attack without stun/freeze =/= pro
  • Wolfixxxx - Lost City
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Allynna_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Suppose one can argue back and forth about powerleveling, but if you FC alt your char from level 1-60, wouldn't you have a MASSIVE lack of spirit points? 99% of exp in game has a 1-4 exp/sp ratio, the FC heads have a 1-24 ratio. Argue what you want, but it would be kinda hard to play a class with >1/6th the SP you should have by that level.

    no, u actually got it kinda backwards. u will have more then enought spirit usually, its the COIN u wont have enough of. thats the major issue because u can always catch up on BHs/cultis/quest chaings to get w/e spirit u might need. but the coin will be the hard part. u will need a good few million coin to catch up on all ur skills from 1-60.
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Occult -> spark -> auto attack without stun/freeze =/= pro

    it does if ur a 5 aps sin, fist BM, fist barb, or fist archer,. face it, this game is all about APS. everything else does not matter and you know that.
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City wrote: »
    it does if ur a 5 aps sin, fist BM, fist barb, or fist archer,. face it, this game is all about APS. everything else does not matter and you know that.

    Rofl. Archers fisting in PvP is so pro.
  • Wolfixxxx - Lost City
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Rofl. Archers fisting in PvP is so pro.


    claw* then. either way its 5.0 and it doesnt matter what class has that 5.0 it will always out DPS just plain skill spamming/caster classes.
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Rofl. Archers fisting in PvP is so pro.
    Armageddon is even more pro, specially when you leave evasion orns on


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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City wrote: »
    claw* then. either way its 5.0 and it doesnt matter what class has that 5.0 it will always out DPS just plain skill spamming/caster classes.

    Go play the game, then comment pl0x.

    Lost City has such fail archers in PvP? Damn I thought PvP servers were meant to be good at....PvPing.
  • XxZavxX - Raging Tide
    XxZavxX - Raging Tide Posts: 603 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Go play the game, then comment pl0x.

    Lost City has such fail archers in PvP? Damn I thought PvP servers were meant to be good at....PvPing.

    What do you even know about PK...
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    XxZavxX - Raging Tide wrote: »
    What do you even know about PK...

    Let's see, how about we start with using a bow? b:bye
  • Astraea - Raging Tide
    Astraea - Raging Tide Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    With DDs, skill makes MUCH less of a difference in PvE, the most you might see is if someone chains spark and immunities at the right time to survive that Nirvana boss AOE, or if a player uses apoc and skills to survive a hard boss for as long as possible when the party has wiped. However, with clerics skills do show a lot more.

    so ur saying the 20-30 minutes i had to kite slasher boss in nirvana cause every1 kept getting 1shot by his aoe (the barb, bm, cleric and sins) took little to no skill? <_< this coming from a squishy as **** veno who had to use p def charms, 79 and 59 skills and bout 50-75k off plat charm left over from TW to survive for the whole 20-30min or so while rest of squad rezzed + buffed up + built chi

    frankly the "horrible" players are just that, they're bad at their class it has nothing to do with power lvling or playing the "natural" way
    some are more adept to learning how to play a Simple game while others for w/e reason cannot grasp simple skills and their usage
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  • Wolfixxxx - Lost City
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Go play the game, then comment pl0x.

    Lost City has such fail archers in PvP? Damn I thought PvP servers were meant to be good at....PvPing.


    i assume u never seen a 5.0 archerb:chuckle
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City wrote: »
    i assume u never seen a 5.0 archerb:chuckle

    also who ever said i was talking about pvp? that didnt show up not even once in my post.

    Yep, you're right, I never look in the mirror.

    And yes, you did.
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Rofl. Archers fisting in PvP is so pro.

    I believe you replied to and quoted this post.

    Wolfixxxx - Lost City wrote: »
    claw* then. either way its 5.0 and it doesnt matter what class has that 5.0 it will always out DPS just plain skill spamming/caster classes.
  • Wolfixxxx - Lost City
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Yep, you're right, I never look in the mirror.

    And yes, you did.



    I believe you replied to and quoted this post.

    pvp was not mentioned in my post first of all.

    2ndly u must fail as a archer =/
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City wrote: »
    claw* then. either way its 5.0 and it doesnt matter what class has that 5.0 it will always out DPS just plain skill spamming/caster classes.
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City wrote: »
    pvp was not mentioned in my post first of all.

    2ndly u must fail as a archer =/

    You replied to and quoted my post.

    2ndly u must fail as a reader
  • Wolfixxxx - Lost City
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    You replied to and quoted my post.

    2ndly u must fail as a reader

    it does if ur a 5 aps sin, fist BM, fist barb, or fist archer,. face it, this game is all about APS. everything else does not matter and you know that.
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Rofl. Archers fisting in PvP is so pro.


    2ndly you fail as a reader. not once did i mention pvp. you implied it to suit your own fail post.

    3rdly, you fail as a archer.

    that first post was talking about APS in general and was not specifically directed towards pvp. but since you lack reading comprehension i guess i have to explain that to u.
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City wrote: »
    2ndly you fail as a reader. not once did i mention pvp. you implied it to suit your own fail post.

    3rdly, you fail as a archer.

    that first post was talking about APS in general and was not specifically directed towards pvp. but since you lack reading comprehension i guess i have to explain that to u.

    For sure. I fail because I use a bow in PvP b:bye
  • Wolfixxxx - Lost City
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    For sure. I fail because I use a bow in PvP b:bye


    no. you fail cuz you do not know how to read and do not know the uses of a 5.0 APS archer. be it in PvE or pvP. this is more evident from a PvE 5.0 archer standpoint.
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Fists are only good if your class has stuns.


    Archers only stun? Usable only with bow.


    If an archer pulled out fists against me in PvP I would probably laugh and walk two feet to the right.
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  • Wolfixxxx - Lost City
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Fists are only good if your class has stuns.


    Archers only stun? Usable only with bow.


    If an archer pulled out fists against me in PvP I would probably laugh and walk two feet to the right.


    thats cool, but ur ignoring it in pvE. as i was talking about it in general which u and boog seem to be ignoring. thats why i named all the major 5.0s. a 5.0 arch does not fail in PvE. no 5.0 class does.
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City wrote: »
    no. you fail cuz you do not know how to read and do not know the uses of a 5.0 APS archer. be it in PvE or pvP. this is more evident from a PvE 5.0 archer standpoint.

    Again, 5.0 is irrelevant in PvP.

    Shall I explain it to you?

    Archer, 1 stun, 1 freeze.

    Stun - 3secodns (4.5 sage)

    Freeze - 8 seconds

    Spark = 3 seconds

    By the time you sparked, target ran away.

    If you froze, target can use dmg reduction/immune apoth

    Understand?

    /inb4whydoyousparkinpvp

    Non-sparked damage fails

    b:bye
  • Wolfixxxx - Lost City
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Again, 5.0 is irrelevant in PvP.

    Shall I explain it to you?

    Archer, 1 stun, 1 freeze.

    Stun - 3secodns (4.5 sage)

    Freeze - 8 seconds

    Spark = 3 seconds

    By the time you sparked, target ran away.

    If you froze, target can use dmg reduction/immune apoth

    Understand?

    /inb4whydoyousparkinpvp

    Non-sparked damage fails

    b:bye


    lol you still dont know how to read. look at the post above you. i was talking in general like i said before. your point/argument against me hardly means jack because im talking about APS from both a pve and pvp aspect. not just the ****ing archer class. if i was talking about archers then i would have said archers, but i didnt. i actually mentioned SEVERAL APS classes not just archers.

    APS rules both pvE and pvp.

    and non sparked dmg fails? you obviously never played a sin either. chances are a 4.0 sin non sparked will drop you in pvp regardless.
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City wrote: »
    if i was talking about archers then i would have said archers, but i didnt.

    Oh wow.
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City wrote: »
    i assume u never seen a 5.0 archerb:chuckle
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City wrote: »
    APS rules both pvE and pvp.

    Which is why a R9 wiz can hit 100k on a barb b:shutup
    Ifailhardcore wrote:
    and non sparked dmg fails? you obviously never played a sin either.

    Was i talking about sins?
  • Wolfixxxx - Lost City
    Wolfixxxx - Lost City Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Oh wow.



    APS rules both pvE and pvp.[/QUOTE

    Which is why a R9 wiz can hit 100k on a barb b:shutup



    first of all lol @ 100k.

    3rdly, still doesnt compare to APS.

    4thly. PVE LEARN TO READ. you still have yet to prove i was talking about pvp solely for archers.

    generalization. learn the concept.
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I'll say herp derp and leave it there
  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Why need APS when you can 1 shot the target with a simple 2 spark move?

    Wizzys for example. Sins are probably the only ones who use APS, since thats basically natural for them.

    Anyways, thread derailed.
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