How to be wanted in squads again
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Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »Wizards can barely get squads now at all, period. Before this 5aps craze, they stood at least a decent chance of snagging the last spot if the squad already had it's healer, tank and a couple of DDs. They stood even more of a chance of getting in if there were any mobs and bosses that they could tank. GTFO with your assumptions I didn't play before packs, because there's every possible chance I might have been playing longer than you. Poor poor 5aps sheep has to rely on assumptions just because I said wizards used to be able to get squads at a decent rate?
Makes me wonder if you ever played before packs. ;D
The best player I've done Nirvana runs with was a wizard. My wizard has been guild-less with little to no one active on FL and still manages to get into squads at a decent rate when needed. Not all people are stupid enough to WC over and over again for 15m+ to MAYBE kill some bosses a couple minutes faster. Demand for wizzies for RB is about as high as for Barbs, and they're not shabby in Warsong but many BMs are.
The biggest problem with wizzies is fail builds and fail playstyles. People want dumbed down 1-1 melee.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
The best player I've done Nirvana runs with was a wizard. My wizard has been guild-less with little to no one active on FL and still manages to get into squads at a decent rate when needed. Not all people are stupid enough to WC over and over again for 15m+ to MAYBE kill some bosses a couple minutes faster. Demand for wizzies for RB is about as high as for Barbs, and they're not shabby in Warsong but many BMs are.
The biggest problem with wizzies is fail builds and fail playstyles. People want dumbed down 1-1 melee.
i also heard that wizzies are really wanted for grinding lime stones b:avoid0 -
ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »i also heard that wizzies are really wanted for grinding lime stones b:avoid
How did you know about the lime stones?! That was a wizzie trade secretb:angry[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
ElderSig - Dreamweaver wrote: »How did you know about the lime stones?! That was a wizzie trade secretb:angry
i'm a psychic duh :b0 -
ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »i'm a psychic duh :b
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damn I have no comeback for that. You win this round.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
ElderSig - Dreamweaver wrote: »...............
damn I have no comeback for that. You win this round.
just as I predicted b:cool0 -
Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »Shut up, did you even play before packs?
Mages weren't taken to TT unless if it was a guild helping the mage farm gears.
The main DDers before packs gave us 5.0 aps was archers and venos with hercs. And it would be even worse now. Compare the DPS between a +10 rank 8 mage and a +10 rank 8 archer and you would find that the archer doesn't even come close.
Hmm, I remember those days well and wizards were always taken, even outside guilds. The only time I could possibly say that statement was true was when AE was first reached and fought- no one wanted another 'squishy'- despite the fact that they have the earth shield that raises physical defense,[In a distorted place and time][The knife that stabbed me in the back grants me wings]
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How to be wanted in squads again
Invest in your gear. Most end-game chars have less coin, time or money invested in their gear that a APS character has in just their tome or weapon.
You lazy f**ks with horrible gear. Get off your asses and make something of your toon. Once you have really good gear, parties tend to find you.
b:pleasedI post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »Hey there, do people not take you to nirvana? Are you often left excluded from TT runs? Do you have no friends you can do instances with? Well then this guide is here to help you. Rather than QQ about all the 5.0 aps getting picked first while you're the guy picked last in gym, you can do something about it!.........
So what you are saying is akin to:
Can't get a good job as a black guy pre civil rights era?
Step 1: Become white.0 -
Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »Rolling a 5 aps char and being wanted in squads again is the same thing.
And people don't believe stupidity is a contagious disease....0 -
Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »Hey there, do people not take you to nirvana? Are you often left excluded from TT runs? Do you have no friends you can do instances with? Well then this guide is here to help you. Rather than QQ about all the 5.0 aps getting picked first while you're the guy picked last in gym, you can do something about it!
Step 1. Roll a BM. You can also do a sin but for the purpose of this guide we'll be using a BM as an example.
Step 2. Level slowly! Do not rush off to spam oracles and hypers cause then you end up with no money for skills or anything. Do your BHs, use orbs from BH100, they key is to have as much as possible to invest in gears.
Step 3. As you get higher leveled save as much money as you can. Don't go blowing money on low level gear, instead invest towards the future. You don't need those 4x mold gears, you don't need that TT80 gold gear.
Step 4. As you get to 90+ join a good guild, one that does weekly events, this is crucial.
Step 5. Start working towards for the crucial TT99 gears you'll need. Whether you do all HA with evasion ornaments or la wrists or la boots and wrists is up to you, but you'll need 2 pieces of TT99 LA and HA. Go on TT runs whenever you can, go to weekly events if you can make them, these can be huge coin making opportunities.
Step 6. By the time you are level 99 you should have TT99 wrists and one other piece of TT99 gold.
- Interval so far: -0.15
Step 7. Go ahead and get another level, and hit 100.
Step 8. Do BH everyday, the rewards aren't as good as they used to be but you should be able to get decent coins for the mirages, and there's always the chance to get 2mil. Also get your nirvana keys. Yes currently you are ugly and no one likes you, that's why you're following this guide, but soon you will need em.
Step 9. Do whatever else you can do to make money, farm herbs, hell even open TTs, several people I know will pay 100k to open TT, 100k for 2 minutes of standing in a room is pretty good.
Step 10. Eventually you will have enough to go out and get lunar claws b:victory Using these farming coins for another piece of TT99 gold shouldn't be too hard.
At this point you should have:
lunar claws, LA and HA set bonus, and TT99 wrists.
- Interval so far: -.30
Step 11. Now for the lunar cape, this shouldn't be too difficult as from what I can tell they've fallen as low as 30mil these days. You should be able to get a nirvana squad every now and then, lower level TTs, start farming TT3-1 for GBAs with others.
Step 12. Go out and buy the cape, don't worry too much about the refine, it doesn't refine that well.
- Interval so far: -.35
Step 13. Now for the hardest part. Having 4.0 should get you into a decent squad even though you're an insufferable ***** that no one likes. Farm uncannys like no tomorrow, merchant, keep up the BHs, see if you can get into the occasional TT3-2 or even 3-3 squad, and save up for the goal of 250 uncannys.
Note: at this point you will either need to get TT99 legs if you didn't have them, or another piece of TT99 in order to keep the -int bonus after making nirvana legs.
Step 14. Make your nirvana legs. You might find that those people who didn't like you will suddenly want you to come to nirvana with them! Don't forget to be an *** to anyone who doesn't have 5.0 aps themselves and call them noobs.
Step 15. Browse the forums for people saying "you can only get 5.0 by spending $ b:cry" and call them stupid.
Apart from rolling a BM, isnt this your life story?0 -
Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »Apart from rolling a BM, isnt this your life story?
So yes but in a different order, also the life story of anyone with 5.0 aps[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Rerolling a different class isnt a solution but a compromise lol. I currently have .87 aps and still find nirvana squads easy. But... mage classes are still sol sadly b:surrender He is right though if you wanna farm roll an aps toon.0
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IDecision - Raging Tide wrote: »Rerolling a different class isnt a solution but a compromise lol. I currently have .87 aps and still find nirvana squads easy. But... mage classes are still sol sadly b:surrender He is right though if you wanna farm roll an aps toon.
Minus an assassin. Don't roll one of those unless you absolutely don't care to hyper grind it from 80 to 100. 8x sins are so common getting a squad for BH/FC is a nightmare since no one wants them.Some people risk to employ me
Some people live to destroy me
Either way they die0 -
Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »Minus an assassin. Don't roll one of those unless you absolutely don't care to hyper grind it from 80 to 100. 8x sins are so common getting a squad for BH/FC is a nightmare since no one wants them.
You know whats funny, I see on world chat fc teams looking for sins b:chuckle ( a lot of times too)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Move along..move along0 -
CandyCorn - Raging Tide wrote: »You know whats funny, I see on world chat fc teams looking for sins b:chuckle ( a lot of times too)
On DW it's usually mid 90's on up looking for sin as a buff monkey. Probably due to the lack of a cleric in squad or something.Some people risk to employ me
Some people live to destroy me
Either way they die0 -
Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »On DW it's usually mid 90's on up looking for sin as a buff monkey. Probably due to the lack of a cleric in squad or something.
hmm well over here sins can tank most bosses easily (i do it with mines) and kill bosses and makes fc runs faster that most poeple want 2 in a squad o.o[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Move along..move along0 -
Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »No I got the lunar claws first followed by wrists then TT99 chest then cape then evasion ornaments then nirvana legs.
So yes but in a different order, also the life story of anyone with 5.0 aps
,,l,, 5.0 aps, it's not the only way ta be wanted in squads. oh, and btw, yer sig, makes me wish i could punch you in the face fer bein a manwhore b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
light armor rules, and JOKERZz are the best. shaff, you meh dogg. Neko, you smexy redhead you, yer my favorite veno out there. Evo, yer straight up crazy. Lillie, thanks fer giving LA cerics a good name. hask, what can't you tank? Kyo, yer wizard biuld sucks, and yer obsession with aps annoys me, but eveni will admit, yer a frackin pro. Chick, our dad's would be great friends in rl, and we'd have so much fun messin with them. fer all the rest of the clan, *salutes* at yer service doggs.b:cool0 -
CandyCorn - Raging Tide wrote: »hmm well over here sins can tank most bosses easily (i do it with mines) and kill bosses and makes fc runs faster that most poeple want 2 in a squad o.o
RT probably has a much greater sin-to-everyone-else ratio. There are a lot of them on my server as well, but racism is pretty high here too amongst lowbies.
Another observation I've made while playing my sin is that FC pugs are atrocious these days. Far worse than has been in the past. For every 1 good run, I get 3-4 death camps.Some people risk to employ me
Some people live to destroy me
Either way they die0 -
Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »RT probably has a much greater sin-to-everyone-else ratio.
Ya we got a crapload of sins here. Nothing unexpected though since RT came out with the expansion.It's all about LoL,yo.0 -
Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »RT probably has a much greater sin-to-everyone-else ratio. There are a lot of them on my server as well, but racism is pretty high here too amongst lowbies.
Another observation I've made while playing my sin is that FC pugs are atrocious these days. Far worse than has been in the past. For every 1 good run, I get 3-4 death camps.
b:surrender that horrible...really is hope it gets better[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Move along..move along0 -
TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide wrote: »Ya we got a crapload of sins here. Nothing unexpected though since RT came out with the expansion.
alot less good ones though. It's amazing how badly some suck0
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