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  • SIX_SIN - Archosaur
    SIX_SIN - Archosaur Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    HMMb:shocked
  • _Mizandry - Archosaur
    _Mizandry - Archosaur Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Judging by the convos I have had with Nemesis members, the atmosphere, I really wouldnt be surprised if we`d see tide of ppl hitting the door. There are ppl who have been thinking leaving, no matter what happens in TW today, would nemesis also lose? Not just fail attack(Last week) but lose land? Thing is, little things may lead into "sht, let`s run!" phenomenom. Thing is, Nemesis may crumble in a week, ingredients for it are there. But we`ll see what happens, funny thing is, problems nemesis is having, I`ve been saying those for over a month now, have I`ve been listened? It seems no.

    Well Proski's goal was to "beat Nemesis up for a month and troll them hard" until they disband, so I guess that goal will be achieved if what you say happens.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Too cold for you to keep her, Too hot for you to leave her <3
  • NoLyf - Archosaur
    NoLyf - Archosaur Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Judging by the convos I have had with Nemesis members, the atmosphere, I really wouldnt be surprised if we`d see tide of ppl hitting the door. There are ppl who have been thinking leaving, no matter what happens in TW today, would nemesis also lose? Not just fail attack(Last week) but lose land? Thing is, little things may lead into "sht, let`s run!" phenomenom. Thing is, Nemesis may crumble in a week, ingredients for it are there. But we`ll see what happens, funny thing is, problems nemesis is having, I`ve been saying those for over a month now, have I`ve been listened? It seems no.

    Wnb got an alt in Nemesis b:dirty

    if they crumble n disband into smaller facs most of us ll go inactive

    -end of story-
  • NoLyf - Archosaur
    NoLyf - Archosaur Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Well Proski's goal was to "beat Nemesis up for a month and troll them hard" until they disband, so I guess that goal will be achieved if what you say happens.

    I would love to c a coach tell to the ppl in the team...

    lets go out there and have a fun game.....-.-

    cauz i usually thought they say lets kick some ***.......
  • Vindrael - Lost City
    Vindrael - Lost City Posts: 165 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I used to play in TW for the group PvP time. Then, I realized there are PvP servers that offer group PvP time 24/7. I had a blast in SP last night, trying to take down a 103 barb and a couple of 100+ BMs and sins. It took a lot of coordination and teamwork on the part of us level 80's, but we pulled it off a couple of times (and died like 30 times in the process). b:thanks

    Anyhow, until TW pay comes back or guild bases are released, I really don't care about winning TW's. I care about having some fun and trying to be competitive.

    Mango, Kat, Aries, and everyone else in Nemesis: I look forward to fighting you this weekend. You guys are great, and win or lose I just want it to be a good time for us all. Good luck, and I'm sure we'll do our best to make it exciting.

    Finally, to address the Mizandry drama. There are people in Nemesis who are helpful. There are people in Zulusive who are helpful. Same goes for Phoenix, Immunity, Darkside, and every other faction. If somebody feels like they fit into a faction, who cares which one they join? This is a game, and people should be allowed to do whatever makes the game more enjoyable for them. Personally, I feel a little bad for being in any faction here, since I'm spending a lot of time on Lost City learning how to PvP better.

    EDIT: Oops, this is Valrain btw. b:beatup
  • _Mizandry - Archosaur
    _Mizandry - Archosaur Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I would love to c a coach tell to the ppl in the team...

    lets go out there and have a fun game.....-.-

    cauz i usually thought they say lets kick some ***.......

    Did I say it was wrong or anything? I said his goal will be achieved... That was it. I think you are trying to make a pretty simple statement into something else or you just over analyze ish.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Too cold for you to keep her, Too hot for you to leave her <3
  • Proski - Archosaur
    Proski - Archosaur Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    uh what
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Wnb got an alt in Nemesis b:dirty

    if they crumble n disband into smaller facs most of us ll go inactive

    -end of story-

    Waiting for "Anybody that talks to Wnb will be kicked & Wnb, if your alt is here, go hang yourself" rule implented into nemesis. Or what if that has been impleted already? What if that`s why cable got kicked? Damn, they really got slow networks, we last talked with him like week ago in that delta we did =/.

    Edit: Moderator from brotherhood, I prefer there is talk on forum section instead of dead silent we`ve been having.
    Trolling Sid since So Hot :o
  • Kattanyia - Archosaur
    Kattanyia - Archosaur Posts: 226 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Well Proski's goal was to "beat Nemesis up for a month and troll them hard" until they disband, so I guess that goal will be achieved if what you say happens.

    *facepalm* Nemesis is not going to disband, lol....and what kind of goal is that for promoting fun on the server, lol.

    Oh, and WNB, persoanally, I could care less who talks to you or if you have 10 alts in Nemesis as long as they are active :)
  • Pannzer - Archosaur
    Pannzer - Archosaur Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Deltas, there is exactly 2 barbs on server who are willing to farm it and help ppl with their cultis in process. Both of those barbs are in Zulusive. Sure, every faction got their barbs that help but they are simply ones who do BH deltas, fulls? Not so much. Thing is, with the lack of active high lvls on server, finding full deltas is hard for everybody, well `cept for classes that cant be replaced.

    Only 2 barbs that farm culti in Delta and they're both in Zulusive? Interesting.
  • BigFIuffy - Archosaur
    BigFIuffy - Archosaur Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    the 2 barbs who helped cable with his culti are in zulusive. Btw this thread is stupid it will not change anything. I used to think this **** mattered and as annoying it is that Nemesis bid on darkside it really doesnt affect me on a large enough scale to post about it on forums.

    P.S: Nemesis wont disband
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Only 2 barbs that farm culti in Delta and they're both in Zulusive? Interesting.

    2 barbs that farm delta for tome frags, help ppl do their cultis while doing it. That is to say is by the pms I`ve received after asking who actually do that. Like I said, every faction got their barbs that help ppl do delta for cultis but honestly, I`d prefer barb that does indeed finish most of their deltas and not stop at BH bosses, like most of barbs on our server does. Yes, I`m other of those barbs and the other? He was actually pointed to me by Nemesis member, which would suggest nemesis dont have their own delta farmer barbs. Does that mean your barbs dont do delta for cultis? No, but it would suggest they are not as experienced in it as the ones running delta quite a bit more. But that`s not what the thread was about, funny though how you picked that 1 thing, ignoring the rest.

    Oh and I really hope nemesis wont disband, would I want it, I`d stay silent and wouldnt point out their problems for them as you cant fix something you dont know of. But really, we`ve all seen it, lost TW, everybody`s spirit bit down over it, some ppl leave... It might turn into something more than that. Thing is, I aint too confident in Nemesis staying the most entertaning faction to TW with. Oh well, ignore me like before, not like my logical mind has been right before.

    Ps. Never trust fufu with timer, he says he can do it but damn that nabcake fails to kill boss in time =(.
    Trolling Sid since So Hot :o
  • Pannzer - Archosaur
    Pannzer - Archosaur Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    2 barbs that farm delta for tome frags, help ppl do their cultis while doing it. That is to say is by the pms I`ve received after asking who actually do that. Like I said, every faction got their barbs that help ppl do delta for cultis but honestly, I`d prefer barb that does indeed finish most of their deltas and not stop at BH bosses, like most of barbs on our server does. Yes, I`m other of those barbs and the other? He was actually pointed to me by Nemesis member, which would suggest nemesis dont have their own delta farmer barbs. Does that mean your barbs dont do delta for cultis? No, but it would suggest they are not as experienced in it as the ones running delta quite a bit more. But that`s not what the thread was about, funny though how you picked that 1 thing, ignoring the rest.

    Oh and I really hope nemesis wont disband, would I want it, I`d stay silent and wouldnt point out their problems for them as you cant fix something you dont know of. But really, we`ve all seen it, lost TW, everybody`s spirit bit down over it, some ppl leave... It might turn into something more than that. Thing is, I aint too confident in Nemesis staying the most entertaning faction to TW with. Oh well, ignore me like before, not like my logical mind has been right before.

    Ps. Never trust fufu with timer, he says he can do it but damn that nabcake fails to kill boss in time =(.

    Sorry if I took exception to your saying "there is exactly 2 barbs on server who are willing to farm it and help ppl with their cultis in process. Both of those barbs are in Zulusive." And, yes, in this, your own comment, you imply that there are no Nemesis (or any other faction for that matter) barbs that help with Delta culti.

    Before you blast me once again with your faultless logic, I have no problem with Zulusive barbs, probably some of the best on the server. Almost everything I know about playing a barb I learned from BigFluffy.

    As far as ignoring the rest, I, and others, have tried before to present rational arguments. For our efforts, we're called stupid, lame and many other most 'logical' names. Perhaps the reason you do not see many responses from people to anything is they're tired of being considered second best by the Zulusive 'Elite'. One cannot place an argument with someone who has already made up their mind as to what they want to hear and won't even consider any other statement.
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Sorry if I took exception to your saying "there is exactly 2 barbs on server who are willing to farm it and help ppl with their cultis in process. Both of those barbs are in Zulusive." And, yes, in this, your own comment, you imply that there are no Nemesis (or any other faction for that matter) barbs that help with Delta culti.

    Before you blast me once again with your faultless logic, I have no problem with Zulusive barbs, probably some of the best on the server. Almost everything I know about playing a barb I learned from BigFluffy.

    As far as ignoring the rest, I, and others, have tried before to present rational arguments. For our efforts, we're called stupid, lame and many other most 'logical' names. Perhaps the reason you do not see many responses from people to anything is they're tired of being considered second best by the Zulusive 'Elite'. One cannot place an argument with someone who has already made up their mind as to what they want to hear and won't even consider any other statement.

    That statement is still true, maybe carelessly presented. What I should hava said is "There is exactly 2 barbs on server that farm it and of course help ppl with their cultis in process". My point is, you want barb for delta? Ask in Zulusive as other factions dont have barbs that farm it for tome frags, you sure may correct if I`m wrong on that one. Actually I correct myself, heard about Texas squad that farms delta, they have to have barb for it but I dont honestly know the name of barb in question. It would be one ridiculous comment to say only 2 barbs on server does delta, no, yet only 2 barbs on server does it enough to call it farming, both those barbs indeed are in Zulusive(+ The Texas one, edited when I remembered). We too have those barbs who help in cultis when needed, fluffy being example, yet he doesnt farm delta so to say.

    And when you provide rational explaninations on simple questions I myself will listen, yet if I get the same sort of simpleminded bs I`ve seen so far, yes, you really are better off by skipping it. I have stated why the way Nemesis is taking the map isn`t the fun option, really, wouldn`t you prefer going trough competition every single week instead of having good TW once a month? Let`s not forget, it was Nemesis member behind that fake bid, god knows how long ago, it has been said often yet it needs to be said.

    To anybody looking things objectively, it really doesnt seem like you guys are after fun. Let`s face, zulusive been on map, for what, 4 or 5 weeks? We`ve gotten attacked once by Nemesis, once, when Zulusive has been and still is only faction to offer competetive TW for you. The only attack was gank, dont say I`m QQing, I really dont care losing that 2nd piece of land we had, but it tells a story. It seems like being only after map, fun comes if it comes, dont really care about it. As long as what I`ve been told is true, Nemesis only attacked Zulusive to help Nix, to gank us, was the plan to wipe zulusive out of map? Likely so as it would be logical action to take in order to eliminate competetion.

    There has always been reasons to run away from those fun TWs, some of them making no sense, like circling 1k. Zulusive is only one of capable taking it from you, we are close enough from it to have no interest jumping in darkside to take it that way. And honestly, where you think Darkside could get enough power to take it, `cept from Zulusive? Cause let`s face, would Darkside get during next week nix/immunity with their high lvls joining, would still be equal fight. You might argue about Zulusive ganking yet we know it, you`d simply noshow Zulusive, just like we did noshow nix. So we can either value that scenario, chances actually happening 1 in million or we can stay in reality and not be afraid of boogieman at every corner. Would Zulusive be far away, circling 1k would make sense, yet we are close, we`ll come trough your land to take 1k if we`re taking it.

    There is logic behind Nemesis bid, yet by logic the main reason isn`t fun comptetive TWs. If you see need to protect 1k against boogieman then obviously you rate keeping 1k more important than having that competetive TW. You may say that you still got TW this weekend, yet you could have had another. Every single time you bid something in order to protect 1k/etc you take away competetive TW if, like so far, defending factor is nonfactor compared to Nemesis. Heck, you could prolly send in, if not 1 squad, but 2 squads and win that TW, when you could field 13 full squads + scout and base buffer. I dont see calling Darkside nonfactor insult, they are that compared to Nemesis/Zulusive, yet there are factions that are nonfactors compared to them.
    Trolling Sid since So Hot :o
  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    hello My Name Is Zhadi And I Used To Be Involved In All The Drama That I See Going On Now Until I Realized How Stupid It Is/was BYE
  • Kehrendorh - Archosaur
    Kehrendorh - Archosaur Posts: 492 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    b:victory NerdRage recruiting for PvE fun! b:victory

    nerdrage.mmoguildsites.com
  • Proski - Archosaur
    Proski - Archosaur Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KSMG8mCzN8 BEST SONG EVER

    anyway tonight was hella fun
  • Kattanyia - Archosaur
    Kattanyia - Archosaur Posts: 226 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    anyway tonight was hella fun

    One of the best if not THE best I've been in. Better then any of the Elusive/Narla TW's imo. Great job on both sides. See you next weekend b:victory
  • NoLyf - Archosaur
    NoLyf - Archosaur Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Awesome tw....kept me on teh edge of ma seat

    action packed tw :D

    i wish for a second one kewkew....

    zhadi wat makes tw e1 more competitve is the drama n all the hate b:victory
  • _Mizandry - Archosaur
    _Mizandry - Archosaur Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited January 2011

    4 low lvls in fac need gba n u wanna the measly 400k for helping ? u shulda thought abt that when

    u restated ur veno to wear decides n restated 2 days later for tw.....

    When does it say I wanted the money from those TTs? I said I never asked for it, I helped because she needed help... That was my point. I don't need money in game obviously.... I think you missed the entire point I was trying to make, yet again. I NEVER asked for help money wise nor would I, I asked for help getting my culti done and for other things that I can't solo.

    P.S. I restatted to wear TT100, kk thx and bye
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Too cold for you to keep her, Too hot for you to leave her <3
  • _Mizandry - Archosaur
    _Mizandry - Archosaur Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited January 2011

    anyway tonight was hella fun

    Yep, was a very good TW. At the start of it I was worried it was gonna be a 20 minute one, but ended up great! Awesome fight and see yall next week.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Too cold for you to keep her, Too hot for you to leave her <3
  • Tamias - Archosaur
    Tamias - Archosaur Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    One of the best if not THE best I've been in. Better then any of the Elusive/Narla TW's imo. Great job on both sides. See you next weekend b:victory

    lolwhut?

    But we all know the Narla Vs Archosaur was the best-

    "Just run in keep dying-ARGHHHHH -BEEP- who made the boss reset again??"


    b:chuckle
    Tamias-
    The Dealer at your service b:cute
  • NoLyf - Archosaur
    NoLyf - Archosaur Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    When does it say I wanted the money from those TTs? I said I never asked for it, I helped because she needed help... That was my point. I don't need money in game obviously.... I think you missed the entire point I was trying to make, yet again. I NEVER asked for help money wise nor would I, I asked for help getting my culti done and for other things that I can't solo.

    P.S. I restatted to wear TT100, kk thx and bye

    Maybe i misunderstood ur statement.... b:surrender

    sounded a lot like saying i dint take the 400k for helping......

    fun tw...
  • NoLyf - Archosaur
    NoLyf - Archosaur Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    my my this tw wouldnt have been as fun as it was w/o a

    all that drama and hate...

    WTB more drama n hate
  • Wicked_Dream - Archosaur
    Wicked_Dream - Archosaur Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I swear, i'm so tired of reading theses posts about Nemesis. Instead of worrying about what we doing why don't you worry about your own faction? Each faction has there good and bad. But ppl still need to keep commenting on us. Is your faction so perfect that you have to keep picking at Nemesis? I don't think so. Or are you that bored that all you can do is troll the forums? We actually had a blast last night in the TW. Isn't that what everyone wants? a good TW? (as you can tell i hardly ever post) I guess you guys don't realize even though your having a blast making so much drama, your actually losing more ppl every day from the server just because of all the drama. Is that what you guys want? A dead server?
  • Proski - Archosaur
    Proski - Archosaur Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    just got home from getting my books for classes this semester so i'm feeling kind of ACADEMIC IF YOU CATCH MY DRIFT. awwww YEAH, ITS WALL OF TEXT TIMEEEEEEEEEEEE *******! *edit* not, sorry to disappoint, what was a book of a post had to be removed, not trying to have anyone take it the wrong way and get upset or whatever
  • Wicked_Dream - Archosaur
    Wicked_Dream - Archosaur Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    lol wall of text crits you for over 9000.... but you missed what i was trying to say. You personally think your not causing drama but alot of others go way to far and cannot contain themselves or even act like adults. That is the very reason why ppl get fed up with the drama and leave either for another game or another server. And did i say leave us alone once even? I said i'm sick and tired of it all, i'm saying stop the drama. I for one do not want to see our server die.



    ps this is my opinion and what i have observed happening to our server.
  • Proski - Archosaur
    Proski - Archosaur Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    im DIGGING size 1 because it makes it look like I type less. but yeah I see what you're saying by a lot of others go too far, and to that I reckon you meant getting personal. but my point still wasn't about me, but that this specific drama for everyone starts with much different intentions than anything it might turn into. the latter is a human condition and won't ever change. when some people become butt hurt they just take it 1 notch more sad and find themselves going for low blows

    my other point was that the best way to solve it is to just keep jumping into the experiences with each other and sooner than you'll realize it people will start to make amends again and just have fun.

    have fun and theres less for people to argue over. don't have fun and theres just a lot of down time of dull moments that inspire people to question why its dull and theres always someone to blame
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    QQ, QQQ, QQQQ, QQQQQ, QQQQQQ...

    You want to stop drama? Coming into de forumz sounding butthurt isn`t gonna make it go away, heck, it might inspire some ppl create more of it. That being said, kitty goes into another points raised on this thread since my last forum check.

    TW was something, I`d see both sides as winners, Nemesis raised from defeat and delivered incredible challenge, compared to last week. We were worse than we were last week, I can see it, last week Nemesis was c.ocky, this time we were and it showed. If we were bad it takes nothing away from Nemesis, part of the game is bringing you A game, if other isn`t able to do it, not your problem. I`m still damn proud of all of our members, when Nemesis got our crystal to 700k at 35min(?) left on TW, we picked ourselves up and didn`t let a single cata in our base(Even killed one of your catas on your own C gate, assuming there was some mixup in orders as he got no support) till 1min left on TW. Did we turtle some time? Yes, our crystal was too low to do anything but those last 10 minutes, oh wow, it might have been matter of 5 more minutes and we`d had killed your crystal. That is to say, only losers on this TW were charms. Oh and me myself, I had my moments but most of the time I really wasnt doing things the way I should have. Then again, dunno how many others would see my mistakes during TW as mistakes, lol. Thing is, I`m damn hard on myself and I tend to forgot, not everybody is.

    Is Zulusive perfect? No, we got our problems and I myself acknowledge em. We cant change our past actions but we can try harder from now on, giving our best for whole TW instead of those last 30minutes is one thing we need to improve. Whole PvE aspect of game is another, yet we have taken some sort of actions to fix both of those issues. Empty words are easy and I truly hope the actions we have taken will fix the issues were having but I wont lie, if you want to PvE, right now your better off in Nemesis, most of the time. Our has goal never been to take that top PvE guild spot from Nemesis but we might want to try offer enough of it so it wont become problem for our members. Thing is, we got lots of members who couldnt care less about PvE, trying to find balance is hard and there really is no point becoming some upraged Nemesis.

    You hate drama, yet can anybody with straight face say TW would have been that good w/o it? Sparks were in the air even before it started and let`s face it, it was simply epic TW. I doubt TW would have been that intense w/o the drama in there, last time we had it was during Narla vs Impulse, anybody can remember? And till this day ppl have been saying those were the best TWs so far.
    Trolling Sid since So Hot :o
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Fml, I had longer post, guess I hit some limit and it chopped part of it off, rest of it going into de cyber space. Oh well, kitty tries to fill rest of it with his best ability.

    That would suggest drama around TW is a factor when it comes to good TWs. Is it some value itself or does it create atmosphere that makes TWs more intense? Who knows, fact stands, it seems to be there on every good TW.

    Oh well, If Nemesis members want to chip in Zulusive bid to prevent fakebids/etc, contact meh, cause Zulusive winning bidding on your land is the only option for you to TW against us next week. How I can say that? Mango has already stated he wont be bidding Zulusive next week, I`ll provide screenshots if needed =/. Oh yeah, if you decide to chip in, the funds will be fully directed into bid, not in apos/anything, those are our own concern.
    Trolling Sid since So Hot :o
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