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Barb_nico - Harshlands wrote: »lol i wanna see how much ppl will pay for a 80-90 barb for fc when expansion comes lol if now theres a lack of barb i dont wanna see when EVERYONE reroll on new classes and want to get to 100 fast for r8
oh btw if u qq about lack of barbs why u just dont make a barb?
Because since we barbs havent got any updates on skills, aggro effect, repair due cost, why would someone would go thru a hell of a lvling time with a barb on their own?
Lol good thing Im lvl 100 already and Barb.0 -
Sins can just sell "solo services" and help get ppl to 100 in a week. lol[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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The reason why there are no barbs is simpe, i lure them with catnip to my cave. Knock them out. Lock them in a cage. And when I need a barb for fc i'll unlock one. Oh and the other barbs i don't need or low lvl ones i rip off their fur and make me a nice fur jacket b:cute. I need some jeans with this jacket...and a nice fur underwear too.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Move along..move along0
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I made a barb because I got some nice tight red pants, black boots and gloves. Smexy, ijs.0
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So I did a fcc today with my clawcher.
Sin in squad - barb main. 2 bms in squad - both had barb mains. And just for good measure, my archer in squad also happens to have a 101 barb 'main', since a friend of mine quit and gave me his 101 barb.
But yeah, the game isn't unbalanced nor dead. It just so happens that 99% of your average pick up bh/fcc squads are alts, mostly of wizards or barbs rolling sins/archers/bms. Wonder why
Anyway, to those who mentioned paying barbs to fcc... Just lol and rofl and lmfao.
I could understand 'paying' a barb for a gamma or a delta run. They're the ones tanking everything in those instances, and they're the ones getting their charms *****. So sure, have some coin for that, or a good shard/obp I happened to get. I can understand barbs getting first picks in TT in the old days. Again, they were the one tanking just about everything.
But pay a barb to fcc? Really? I mean unless there was a lvl100 5aps person in the squad, my archer was usually the one tanking every single boss, as well as half the mobs once i got barrage up. By the end of the run, my repair bill was higher than theirs.
Even when I was lower level, 90% of the squads I was in would have at least one 3.3 fister or a sin and they would end up tanking the bosses instead of the barb.
Seeing a WC saying "paying 200-300k for repairs to a 90+ barb for a full fcc run". I mean I actually get the impression that these poor deluded people are under the impression his repairs actually cost that much. Try 30-50k for a 90+ run and 50-100k for an 80+ run.
Like I said earlier, I got a barb too. Tanking bh delta to stage 3 runs me 100-200k depending on our DD (never ever doing delta again with 3 veno/sins and 1 wiz/psy/archer lmao). Fcc on the other hand is round 50k. Most of the time not even that (unless its like 70-80 fcc, then I can imagine repairs would be much higher, since everything dies that much slower). Just a thought for the next time you think about paying 300k for half an hour fcc.
I mean I don't see barbs paying to get taken to a 5aps nirvana squads, or paying clerics for their rez scrolls and GAs, and archers for their arrows (claws? ). Gimme a break.
Oh and Fuzzy, hows that corporate rooster? Sucky sucky five dolla?
You have to be the only person on these forums, including the gms and Yulk, I've ever seen say the game is "balanced".
Don't cry the "balanced" tune to the PWI community, with anyone with an IQ over 50 it just doesn't wash.b:dirty0 -
Ninnuam - Sanctuary wrote: »Anyway, to those who mentioned paying barbs to fcc... Just lol and rofl and lmfao.
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Yeah i agree its hilarious. I have a 100+ barb alt (like everyone else), and full Frost was max 50k repairs and a few **** meats + genie, you dont even need a charm. You dont tank bosses and only get hit a few sec during pulls. Maybe its worse with the repairs and costs at 8X?
But 9X...if its a good party you dont have to "bribe" random barbs to join, they are always willing to join if they know that the party is good and will run the instance fast. Thats what ive noticed anyway when running Frost on several chars and getting my sin to 100+. If your party doesn't suck and you have pro DDs, you will find a barb within reasonable time b:surrender.
And all this **** about updating barbs skills...i mean barb is one of the strongest 1v1 PvP classes endgame. Sure you could add some more boost in Flesh Ream but other than that, why the hell should you amp 1 of the original classes and not the others? Archers sucks as DDs compare to sins for example, but people arent making billions of tread about that since it doesn't affect their level speed in Frost lol... Thats really all it is, a bunch of 8X and low 9X being angry they cant spam Frost everyday since not enough tanks, thats not a valid reason to make barb a stronger class.0 -
Was under the impression that the person who had ●The Dragon's Breath was the tank in delta.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0
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Was under the impression that the person who had ●The Dragon's Breath was the tank in delta.
Bzzzzt. Wrong. Those people don't delta because they get 1k'd with 90% of the barbs. Oh and, the people with that skill equate maybe 1% of PWI population. Try again.
Although I did tank the run for my ex-faction leader with that skill that needed stage 5 for chrono. =Db:dirty0 -
CandyCorn - Raging Tide wrote: »The reason why there are no barbs is simpe, i lure them with catnip to my cave. Knock them out. Lock them in a cage. And when I need a barb for fc i'll unlock one. Oh and the other barbs i don't need or low lvl ones i rip off their fur and make me a nice fur jacket b:cute. I need some jeans with this jacket...and a nice fur underwear too.
So that's where that Barb alt of mine went. I was wondering why I couldn't find him.0 -
Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »ehh.. there is lack of barbs at endgame and everyone know the reason.
typical barb is guy with 'teamplayer mindset', and when he hear, that he will be less and less usable in teams (yes, which is true) then he lose main motivation to play..
b:cry Does this mean I have no future? b:cry Nooooooooo!0 -
lol nah don't worry about it thunder.
If have enough money endgame you can become a 5aps claw barb which, despite what a lot of people think, are actually surprisingly decent, with poison fang and strength of the titans, damage is good. Also 5aps barbs can get into Nirvana squads lol and so you can farm good gear & high hp, with that you can switch between claws and axes to drop huge armageddons on people and dominate in 1v1 (cept against sins).0 -
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I agree, finding barbs for FC is hard. But finding barbs that actually know how to play their class is even harder nowadays.
I recently did FC on my veno. The time it took to find a barb was longer than the actual run, but I just feel safer with barb. We ended up with a lvl 95 demon barb with 12k HP buffed tiger. Yeah. I had that much when I was lvl 83, and I also went demon later...
We died on the first pull, and several more times on later pulls. He didn't aggro the mobs at all, didnt Invoke, hell, he didnt even know where to pull the mobs to. As mentioned in some post before, he was one of the people that do not invest time in gear at all (completly unsharded, unrefined, with mostly +Dex).
No wonder people dont want barbs in squad at some point, when all you get is a BM wannabe with both **** damage and **** HP that doesnt know how to play.
As to why barbs are going extinct:
I love my barb even now, but I would never ever level one again... The costs, the effort, the stupid comments and all the other previously named reasons made me want to quit a lot of times during the past year.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Zenorx - Harshlands wrote: »lol nah don't worry about it thunder.
If have enough money endgame you can become a 5aps claw barb which, despite what a lot of people think, are actually surprisingly decent, with poison fang and strength of the titans, damage is good. Also 5aps barbs can get into Nirvana squads lol and so you can farm good gear & high hp, with that you can switch between claws and axes to drop huge armageddons on people and dominate in 1v1 (cept against sins).
oh yea, thats true: 5aps barbs are rare enough, to be popular (wanted) in squadsBUILD EFFICIENCY CALCULATOR: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1129681
AGGRO MECHANICS: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=481682
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Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »any 9x bm that cannot tank full fcc should go cry in a corner...been doing it uncharmed since 82, yes you die a lot at the begining but as you learn the instance and your class the deaths go away and you dont hsvee to spam WC for 30+ minutes for a fuzzy
in short...learn to play
And you should learn to read... Mr. Imtheforumcoolguy... I can do pulls in FCCs, ever since I was lvl 87 (started doing FCCs 2 lvls earlier), what I said was that a barb can pull and tank much better than any class, not that I cannot do it.
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ThunderSoul - Lost City wrote: »b:cry Does this mean I have no future? b:cry Nooooooooo!
unfortunately, that's true. I should have switched to BM or SIN if I know all those when I was 3x/4x.0 -
Zenorx - Harshlands wrote: »lol nah don't worry about it thunder.
If have enough money endgame you can become a 5aps claw barb which, despite what a lot of people think, are actually surprisingly decent, with poison fang and strength of the titans, damage is good. Also 5aps barbs can get into Nirvana squads lol and so you can farm good gear & high hp, with that you can switch between claws and axes to drop huge armageddons on people and dominate in 1v1 (cept against sins).
hmm? 5.0 barb, why not just make a 5.0 BM or SIN?0 -
Cause 5aps barbs are more fun and + you can self hp buff & strength of the titans0
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If I gonna choose a class which I want to have 5.0 I would choose Barb and NOT a BM!
Why?
Barbs have nearly the same Atk with Fists/Claws and even more HP.
They also have Titan and HP Buff.
But thats **** Wizards and Psys have also a right to live in PWI I think
And 5.0 aps is out of my reach cause I cant effort it <.<I am from Germany and I am sorry if my English isn't very good b:surrender0 -
Dragono - Lost City wrote: »If I gonna choose a class which I want to have 5.0 I would choose Barb and NOT a BM!
Why?
Barbs have nearly the same Atk with Fists/Claws and even more HP.
They also have Titan and HP Buff.
But thats **** Wizards and Psys have also a right to live in PWI I think
And 5.0 aps is out of my reach cause I cant effort it <.<0 -
Ruxal - Harshlands wrote: »Now minutes to 1 o clock in the afternoon. Been lf a barb for fc 80-90 since 5 0 clock this morning. Of course there is no shortage of assasins but not a single barb.
At what point will PWI adress the balance issues in this game? While you are at it fix the rubberbanding at some point.
The game isn't dead but right now its taking one heck of a downward spiral.
/qq
unbalanced, hell no, barbs can kick some serious ***. however, most people, me included, and probably you too since you haven't made a barb consider them a very boring class to play.
there are those out there who love bein that hardcore tanker that has an uncustomizable character and only seeing a generic tiger while tanking things, but they are, well, not me, i can tell ya that. i had a pure vit tanker barb once, by the time i was lvl 46 i was just like, skrew this, i'ma switch to a cooler looking character.
not being able ta find a barb isn't a sign of the game being dead. want to know why you can't find a barb? well i'll tell you exactly why. they're sick of takin **** from people. it's that simple. factions scoop them up as quick as possible, and those are the people who treat them nicely, their faction members, cause their faction members know their style, and how to not draw agro from the tanker.
whenever the barbs try to party with someone outside their faction, they steal agro, or can't heal worth ****.
or, and this is most common, a noob DD (usually a psychic, idk why, just usually is) goes completely insane and unloads on a boss and draws agro, then the cleric tries to save the DD and after the DD dies, the cleric had the healing agro, then the cleric dies, and from there, the rest of the party is dead.
and when that happens, the barb says "go **** yerselves" and continues to only party with faction members.
wanna know how to not **** off a barb? would ya? would ya really? it's a very simple fckn awnser really... you insane, illogical, noob *** damage deaerls have ta cool it down abit with the attacks so ya don't draw agro. it's that simple.
"but why voodoo? why should us DDs have to town down the damage dealing?"
"isn't it our job as damage deals to deal asmuch damage as we can?"
"why are you so mean voodoo? it's not our fault that the whole squad dies" b:cry
"yer just a noob moron voodoo, it's the tanker's fault, or the cleric's for not being able to heal us flimsy pure magic damage dealers when we steal agro" b:angry
anyone thinking any variation of those can bite me. wanna know exactly why ya gotta town it down? wanna know why i'm calling you illogical? well i'll tell ya.....
um, when it's maxxed out completely, their tiger form skill CUTS THE DAMAGE THEY DO IN HALF!!!!!!!!!! unless they do demon ofcorse. but if yer going demon, your goal is not to be a tanker, then yer a pvp barb biuld. the sages are the true, hardcore tankers, and they still have the damage reduction.
a simple amount of logic will tell you that when the tank's damage is cut in half, you need ta calm down the nuking, or you will pull agro, and you will die, along with the entire party.
oh, and if anyone is gonna factor in the "strength of the titans" skill, that increases attack by 30% at max, the tiger form still decreases attack by 50%. do the math, oh, and also factor in a cleric's magic attack increase buff that increases your attack, which is already higher than theirs, by 70%.
any questions oh yee who can never find the physically uncustomizable barbs that everyone is dissing for no reason?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Dude, you have NO FREAKING IDEA. Usually its the sins that steal the aggro and also sure barbs damage is cut in half, but thats what they have flesh realm for right? sheesh. You don't honestly think that barbs draw aggro to themselves just on pure damage do you?! lmao.
Flesh realm:
Rip the enemy's flesh drawing their aggression onto you, inflicting base physical damage and causing bleeding, inflicting 1900.1 damage over 15 seconds.
100 percent accurate.
Requires 20 Chi
Hmm wonder what that bit in red means? O.o0 -
WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide wrote: »"yer just a noob moron voodoo, it's the tanker's fault, or the cleric's for not being able to heal us flimsy pure magic damage dealers when we steal agro" b:angry
If you're going to quote me, at least mention my name. Sheesh...0 -
LyuFong - Sanctuary wrote: »And you should learn to read... Mr. Imtheforumcoolguy... I can do pulls in FCCs, ever since I was lvl 87 (started doing FCCs 2 lvls earlier), what I said was that a barb can pull and tank much better than any class, not that I cannot do it.
In short, don't pretend to be cool, because you aren't b:bye
in fcc my fastest runs have ben w/o barbs if a class would slow down the party how is it the "best"
pretty much the only place the fuzzys mass tanking skills mean anything these days is rebirthGifs are hard to make work here0 -
So why do we have Barbs any longer on the servers?
Just delete us all to spare disk space and everything is all right
If we are not here any longer no one can QQ about us in the future.
So GM's PLEASE DELETE US TO STOP THAT ****!!!I am from Germany and I am sorry if my English isn't very good b:surrender0 -
Dragono - Lost City wrote: »So why do we have Barbs any longer on the servers?
Just delete us all to spare disk space and everything is all right
If we are not here any longer no one can QQ about us in the future.
So GM's PLEASE DELETE US TO STOP THAT ****!!!
TW, RB, some WB and buffs.
cant really replace barbs for buffs and TW no matter what0 -
ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »TW, RB, some WB and buffs.
cant really replace barbs for buffs and TW no matter what
Trophy mode as well. Very very few BMs could stand the abuse TM can heap on the lurer.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Yikes...barbs everywhere can simply point to this thread for all the reasoning in the world not to play their barb or squad with random people. And yes, I agree that 100+ it probably is faster to FC without a barb...but before that pulls are harder for any other class. Yes, the bosses may die slower, but for longer, safer pulls, I know many who would take the time trade-off.0
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FooFooKity - Heavens Tear wrote: »This barb has long since retired unfortunately most barbs don't answer WC's simply because one simple mistake one bad lure one moment of lost aggro and people scream "fail", its far easier to not have the responsibility of protecting the squad and just play a DD class. As far as barbs for hire that in its self is a disgrace, play the class because you love it, because you love the power it holds, not because your guaranteed a spot or because you can get paid extra to fill a role in a squad.
Yeah or the barb gets blamed for the event that another class did. Some of the better guild leaders I knew played Barb(Werebeast) on Malaysia and no one had a cow/had a stick up their pike hole when they died. If it was a wipe, well sucks to be them. **** happens suck it up, try again.Time won't wake/make you wiser, but it will definitely wound you.
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