rank9=end of tw

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Rank 9 is an uncommon sight now.

HT's end-gamers have quite a few ppl that are sporting rank 9 armor and weapons. Given the sale, I already know some have stored rank 8, possibly even rank 9, for the new classes coming in Feb.

As for TW, its dull...but most still try to have fun with it. If that wasn't the case, no one would have still been bidding and such after the sale.

On HT, TW in terms of 1v1 is dead. The 1st and 2nd top TW faction fights last only 30 mins now.

I am leader of Kindrid on the Dreamweaver server, and this entire post is exactly why we have no interest in fighting the Main TW factions.

We're strong on our own, yeah, but the top 3 factions with the main heavy cashers in it are out of our league, but mostly out of our interest. Those TW's bore the *** out of me. (pardon my french).

Its nothing more then a one shot fest, and aps grind. yay for OP mass pk. *yawns*

We focus on fighting and getting attacked by the somewhat smaller factions of the server.

If we are overpowerd compared 2 the attacking team, or defending, we hold back, take the time 2 train on our own end, do 1v1's. Instead of rushing in and trying 2 destroy a crystal in less then 10 mins.

So that is to all faction leaders of smaller factions on Dreamweaver, come attack us, we don't do rush killing.

We are there, 2 have some FUN. Wierd concept for some I know.

For those that only want 2 kill fast, because FUN they can't seem 2 comprehend, you might wanna get your ego's checked.

kthnxbai.

Anyone on sanctuary will remember nefarious owning every singlee land (if even for a half day) and today they own one land. People got bored being in the top faction (also I believe the leader/member rapport was going sour at a time.) And moved to other factions, and now threre are 6? Factions on the map. Just keep fighting, stop being sooks over a loss, triple team week after week till you gwt a win and try to start enjoying tw again. It's not gonna get better by doing nothing about It.

Sekmeth - Raging Tide wrote: »

Sorry but this "rant" has no basis Even in older versions of pw where no one had rank 8 (yes there were pw severs before pwi that didn/'t even had packs, imagine that, wont name name them cause it's not allowed) and still one faction dominated the tw map. So really instead of blaming the game why not try to find solutions to topple the kings :P

I'm willing to venture a conclusion; that if no one has figured out how to topple the total map conquest scenario given past and present conditions across all conceivable servers, and if those efforts are evidenced across all of our local servers...

The lesser factions are all screwed stupid and can't figure it out after all this time.

But, I'd rather blame the game (and devs).

Sins are OP, but they aren't invincible and rank9 is not hard to get w/o spending real money. Just don't expect to power level to 101 and have enough money left for rank9 straight away, takes a bit of work but doable.

Yeah, try getting it before the rep sale, sunshine.

Nevermind, go farm the mats to make a Neon Purgatory and don't touch a pack ever again.

Andromaka - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I started with 90mil and got to 500mil within 3 weeks. It is possible if you work for it and stop 5 min from QQing about r9 to think of the best way to make that money.

I never QQ-ed about Rank 9 so don't imply that i have.

Secondly congratz to such a feat. Now how you expect people 2 get that without a rep sale?

How do you think people can yield enough gamecoin? Just curious in how you managed 2 make that 90 Mil to 500 Mil, without using RL money.

Did you buy gold low, sell high? Buy Rep badges @ good price, resell after sale? These are the things i did, whoever, i got nowhere near that mark, due 2 overstock on the market, and prices being 2 low for major ROI.

So please, again, enlighten me.

More successful guilds attract more players, and can keep the stronger players.


There really does need to be some system allowing smaller guilds to practice TW though - you're right that co-ordination is vital; but there's currently no way to gain it!

Obly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I never QQ-ed about Rank 9 so don't imply that i have.

Secondly congratz to such a feat. Now how you expect people 2 get that without a rep sale?

How do you think people can yield enough gamecoin? Just curious in how you managed 2 make that 90 Mil to 500 Mil, without using RL money.

Did you buy gold low, sell high? Buy Rep badges @ good price, resell after sale? These are the things i did, whoever, i got nowhere near that mark, due 2 overstock on the market, and prices being 2 low for major ROI.

So please, again, enlighten me.

I didnt buy even 1 rep badge beside the 165k rep i needed for r8. I never charged 1 cent in 2 years since i play. Yes im buying and reselling gold.

Zyfou - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yeah, try getting it before the rep sale, sunshine.

Nevermind, go farm the mats to make a Neon Purgatory and don't touch a pack ever again.

Before the rep sale rank9 wasn't put much into discussion So you're argument doesn't really stand

I grind all my equipment so far, including Deicides. Not not stupid enough to farm lunar, hard to even find team for that, but you can get good gear in game too, that is what i meant All this excuse about "i'm too poor to get good items" is just lazy people wanting same power as people who actually can play the game or can pay real money to substitute hours of grinding. Be happy pack items are much cheaper than it would have been to get them in game (like Neon Purgatory you mentioned).

If you're smart you can get a r9 set cheaper than a recast nirvana during rep/chip sale. Just have to wait for next one. If you're dumb enough to buy medals 20 gold and tokens with chips from tokens of luck, then it's your problem.

Andromaka - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The economical situation is the same on HT too, and i believe on all the srvs is the same. Gold varies between 782-800 buying price in ah and 790-830k selling price right now.
Gold was around 930-950k during rep badges salea and 860-900k next week before annivs were out.

There you go, same thing.

So in order to succesfully make use of these fluxxes you need a constant eye on the market prices.

There's the problem for most, they have work, i myself work 10-11 hour minimal a day, except weekends, so in order 2 do that much ROI within a week, is almost impossible because i can;t monitor constantly.

So it IS possible, but only if you can spend more then 10 hours a day playing the game.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I farmed enuf raps during 2x with my wife alone to make ~ 200m+.. in a week and I think the day that they extended it. There are quite a few farm nuts out there. Also consider the price of flipping tokens, or the re-sell value of d.orbs after the sale. Tons of profit. Orbs were 120-135k during sale, now 190-220K on HT. That's 70-85k profit per orb, so if you invested like even a meager 100 of them you made a clean 7-8.5m profit, and d.orbs go fast. This is one example, as I won't detail to everyone how to make coin as that's the reason there's so little profit margin with packs nowadays.

All it takes is paying attention and some patience, and people tend to spend money as soon as they get it to satisfy their immediate economic "want" ("wants" being elastic and great things to profit from) instead of investing to be able to gain that and much more later on.

You spammed nirvy, gratz, I got a faction 2 run as well, so i don;t have the time 2 spam instances. I gotta be smart on the market.

Like no catshops where near TB area, i set up the only stall buying uncannies and reps at 2 low price, sell high.

But in the current market the options are just to limited. See you and i and all 100's can do Nirvana, which yields good money.

But what about the lvl 80's? There is nothing for them 2 make money off anymore. PWE deliberatly destroyed all those markets. Dyes are a good money maker when new fashions come out. But the profit is always fairly limited, because 2 many do it, so prices drop, due to overstocking. TT mats? There is no demand for them, so no need 2 farm TT, except for TT that yields GBA, but that's again near-end. I don;t see a group of 80's do it that fast.

D.Orbs sales, means buying them first, without RL cash, means buying them from catshops during sale and waiting, but even after sale, there are still 2 many people selling them. The market opportunities are limited, and the offer is large.

Result, low prices, high costs. So getting a decent margin on your goods, is hard, but doable if you save up for sales, stock up, then resell after.

Thats what i do, and it keeps my wallet filled indeed, but for the lower lvl's its really hard 2 keep that level up.

But indeed patience is a virtue, and it seems 2 have died with most, but that's due 2 the community that PWE created with their sales and game mechanic changes. Only a natural "mutation" that we old players all saw coming. (So did PWE ofc).

So what I am saying is, at high levels its possible, but slow. Mid levels,. their basically left out.

And the market systems that you make use of, once again, means a very high gaming activity, in order 2 monitor the market and the prices constantly, by running through archo once every 2 hours and check fluxes, or during sale every hour-ish. In order 2 get the goods cheap and go along with the flow, in a smart way.

For some people such an time investment in this game is simply not possible, due to RL obligations. Or ingame obligations (like running a faction)

Obly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

There you go, same thing.

So in order to succesfully make use of these fluxxes you need a constant eye on the market prices.

There's the problem for most, they have work, i myself work 10-11 hour minimal a day, except weekends, so in order 2 do that much ROI within a week, is almost impossible because i can;t monitor constantly.

So it IS possible, but only if you can spend more then 10 hours a day playing the game.

assuming w/o trying is ur major mistake. No, it is necessary like 2-3 hours/ day to buy gold and overnight shop to sell it. Thats the beauty of merchanting, you dont even have to be at the pc to make money. Beside that there are so many stuff u can buy for cheap over random WCs and resell them later ... like bravery badges i bought for 750k-2.5mil and sold them for 5mil within few hours.

Andromaka - Heavens Tear wrote: »

assuming w/o trying is ur major mistake. Ow i triedNo, it is necessary like 2-3 hours/ day to buy gold and overnight shop to sell it Thus i require a secondary PC or Laptop that has 2 stay runnning in Catshop mode overnight in order to do so. Thats the beauty of merchanting, you dont even have to be at the pc to make money This one i don't get, how are you aware of market changes without being able 2 see the market changes?..bit questionable statement, perhaps i understand wrong.. Beside that there are so many stuff u can buy for cheap over random WCs and resell them later ... like bravery badges i bought for 750k-2.5mil and sold them for 5mil within few hours. Not on Dreamweaver, prices are mostly around the same price during peak hours of server time, thus i would require 2 be online many hours 2 see the deals rush by.

I stated the answer in Orange.

There are 3 factors i would like to add here.

1: Please do not make assumptions like your assuming w/o trying remark, without proof. There is no need for that, and quite frank, a little childish.

2: We do play different servers, thus different markets and players.

3: Perhaps your awesome at merchanting, but not all of us are. So in this case, you could say, you might simply be better at merchanting then I am.

Merchanting is really a whole differnet topic.

But some things really ARE obvious about it, and you CAN get started bgy buying gold in the AH.

Dragon orbs and token packs - heck, even the dyes that were on sale. Buy when they're on sale cheap for a week or a month, sell later when they're pricey.

Some things, yeah, you have to get lucky. Snatch a skillbook out of the AH whilst it's cheap, sell it a bit later at a higher price.

Getting Rank 9 is not always about TW... or PVP.

I am slowly working towards Rank 9 because I am PVE and want to be able to better tank bosses w/o the assistance of Clerics and Barbs, because let's face it - they are rare and very hard to find when you need.

FB's, BH's the small ones need to help them level, Culti Bosses, and then even in some TT's the bosses have been tweaked. I for one, am not 'all about me' - I try to use the advantages I can purchase through CS to help others that cannot... and I help my Legion members specficially for the purpose of making my legion stronger..

I think that when it is known the other fraction you are TW'ing has a Rank 9, it should then become part of your strategy on how to distract them and target their weaknesses. Sure, they hit hard but at the same time, I do not believe anyone is immune to being killed in TW, if it is planned out. Odds are this player will target your crystal, work w/o a Cleric and possibly w/o a team. Odds are they will rambo in... and you just have to prepare for this scenario.