rank9=end of tw

Hhlolz - Harshlands

whats wrong nyxya?
why dont u just buy r9 too? what's 1400 bucks when you have already spent over 2000? b:surrender

Heartstone - Dreamweaver

Obly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I wonder how you got the mysterious chips and the ingame coin to aquire all the General summer's tokens 2 get Rank 9 without charging.

Cause all the regular markets are broken. I make my money bit by bit, or dyes, depending on what the market needs at that moment, mechanting. But getting 500 Mil gamecoin, (Random, haven't calculated it for full rank 9 yet), 2 get my rank 9?? Doubtfull you can get that together without charging zen.

But feel free to enlighten me.

possible. i charged 70 tho.. but have wepeon, bracer and legs. rest i alrdy had or sold something i farmed in previous x2's.

like the x2 we had uhma few times back i farmed for tome. that i sold. farmed to +6 my rings. previous one, these sold too.
we got x2 while we had sale, made like 150m here. and then i borrowed 25m from a friend, which i paid back here in january.

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Ehh you can make a lot of coin without charging zen. There are merchants on my server with over a billion coins who barely play. I know of farmers that can pull in 100m a day during 2x. If you are competitive in events and just log in for those you can make 10-60m in an hour or so. One of my friends bought a Scroll of Tome and sold it the next day at a 70m profit.

Sure you can look at the gold price and QQ that it is impossible but if there is that much coin in the game it makes it that much easier to make coin.

Andromaka - Heavens Tear

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Ehh you can make a lot of coin without charging zen. There are merchants on my server with over a billion coins who barely play. I know of farmers that can pull in 100m a day during 2x. If you are competitive in events and just log in for those you can make 10-60m in an hour or so. One of my friends bought a Scroll of Tome and sold it the next day at a 70m profit.

Sure you can look at the gold price and QQ that it is impossible but if there is that much coin in the game it makes it that much easier to make coin.

so true....

Vasilisk - Harshlands

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Ehh you can make a lot of coin without charging zen. There are merchants on my server with over a billion coins who barely play. I know of farmers that can pull in 100m a day during 2x. If you are competitive in events and just log in for those you can make 10-60m in an hour or so. One of my friends bought a Scroll of Tome and sold it the next day at a 70m profit.

Hymn of bot farmer and huckster

Nyxya - Harshlands

Hhlolz - Harshlands wrote: »

whats wrong nyxya?
why dont u just buy r9 too? what's 1400 bucks when you have already spent over 2000? b:surrender

thing is i don't cashop and yea i can get rank9 but this wasn't issue...are many way to many money even more when u have 5 aps sin +11.. i do waste lot of time in farm in exchangeb:laugh

i just feel like rank9 kind of sux any pvp experience from rest of players
tab-1hit-tab-1hit-tab-1hit...you know what i mean?

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

Obly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You spammed nirvy, gratz, I got a faction 2 run as well, so i don;t have the time 2 spam instances. I gotta be smart on the market.

Like no catshops where near TB area, i set up the only stall buying uncannies and reps at 2 low price, sell high.

But in the current market the options are just to limited. See you and i and all 100's can do Nirvana, which yields good money.

But what about the lvl 80's? There is nothing for them 2 make money off anymore. PWE deliberatly destroyed all those markets. Dyes are a good money maker when new fashions come out. But the profit is always fairly limited, because 2 many do it, so prices drop, due to overstocking. TT mats? There is no demand for them, so no need 2 farm TT, except for TT that yields GBA, but that's again near-end. I don;t see a group of 80's do it that fast.

D.Orbs sales, means buying them first, without RL cash, means buying them from catshops during sale and waiting, but even after sale, there are still 2 many people selling them. The market opportunities are limited, and the offer is large.

Result, low prices, high costs. So getting a decent margin on your goods, is hard, but doable if you save up for sales, stock up, then resell after.

Thats what i do, and it keeps my wallet filled indeed, but for the lower lvl's its really hard 2 keep that level up.

But indeed patience is a virtue, and it seems 2 have died with most, but that's due 2 the community that PWE created with their sales and game mechanic changes. Only a natural "mutation" that we old players all saw coming. (So did PWE ofc).

So what I am saying is, at high levels its possible, but slow. Mid levels,. their basically left out.

And the market systems that you make use of, once again, means a very high gaming activity, in order 2 monitor the market and the prices constantly, by running through archo once every 2 hours and check fluxes, or during sale every hour-ish. In order 2 get the goods cheap and go along with the flow, in a smart way.

For some people such an time investment in this game is simply not possible, due to RL obligations. Or ingame obligations (like running a faction)

If you don't have the time to farm to even make an initial investment into merchanting (merchanting something you can do while AFK too), never mind actually farm the **** out of instances, to begin your "ROI" I'm pretty sure that eliminates the right to complain about being poor and things being too expensive -- or at least, eliminates sounding reasonable. I guess the only thing I can say is be content having what little you have and just enjoy the game as you have it. I don't see why mid levels should have the same profit level as endgame, especially when endgame stuff costs significantly more, justifying the extra cost/profit/return, altho one can merchant at any level as long as they have their initial investment.

Vasilisk - Harshlands

merchanting something you can do while AFK too

Not really. If you wanna good profit - need lot of time and permanently control own shop and all other shops and world chat.

Killermate - Harshlands

mirage payment=end of tw*

And stop QQing about R9. Last weeks TW you guys lost cuz horrible organization.
At no point Zulu should be able to wipe all of you while tanking towers as well. I mean, you guys have enough ppl to at least turtle, yet you let like 10 archers barrage on crystal and each of you kept getting into AoE range unbuffed/sealed/1 by 1. b:embarrassb:embarrass

Kupuntu - Sanctuary

Deja vu... wasn't there such a thread before the rep/chip sale too?

Tojop - Dreamweaver

On Dreamweaver, Calamity took the entire map before rank 9 came out. On Lost City, CQ did the same thing well before that. The top 3 factions on Dreamweaver have 6-8 lands, and have had them for 3 weeks; there are 4-5 factions each with 3-4 lands. What were you saying about TW and Rank 9? b:bye

TheDan - Sanctuary

Vasilisk - Harshlands wrote: »

Hymn of bot farmer and huckster

Not really; If you know how to merchant and do a mild amount of farming each day, say 3-4 hours of farming on 2x you can easily break 100M a day. You just need a good set up.

I remember the first time Anni packs came out.. I flipped 80M worth within 2 hours of just watching Duke shouts of who was winning what and ninja low ball buying items to re-sell. This can be accomplished without charging a dime on the game too.

Oh and I wouldn't consider people rank Rank 9 invincible either lol. I've 1v1ed at silver pool 3 people on my server with +11/+12 Rank 9 gears and I can beat them with +7/+8 gears. Will admit I can't roll them but with enough skill to perma stun lock it's GG for anyone.. including 40K barbs.

Obly - Dreamweaver

Tojop - Dreamweaver wrote: »

On Dreamweaver, Calamity took the entire map before rank 9 came out. On Lost City, CQ did the same thing well before that. The top 3 factions on Dreamweaver have 6-8 lands, and have had them for 3 weeks; there are 4-5 factions each with 3-4 lands. What were you saying about TW and Rank 9? b:bye

Tojop bud, that's only because Cala fell apart due to mismanagement and regen hasn;t come back to that level yet. Either Regen, EQ, or Tempest will do the same. Nothing will have changed. TW stays the same, not with rank 9 either.

what HAS changed is the PvP aspect of the game, think that the OP ment to imply that..but yah

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

Nyxya - Harshlands wrote: »

crimson had 2 wars attack/defense with zulus and were about 20 min each... first encounter i see team window wiped out ...4 ppl die in 1 hit...

we got some rank9 also but zulus have more and in a very fast end we lose...

i remember some years ago when rank 8 were 1-2 ppl on server and wars lasted longer and was more fun but now with so much dmg output really... will it be any tw longer then a smoke?

make me curios if this is same feeling on other servers maybe...to me seems kind of game is broke second time after sins broke pvp kind of..

I remember some years ago before PWI there was less QQing in PWI. b:cry

Tojop - Dreamweaver

Oh, I was just responding to the OP.

Nyxya - Harshlands wrote: »

i remember some years ago when rank 8 were 1-2 ppl on server and wars lasted longer and was more fun but now with so much dmg output really... will it be any tw longer then a smoke?

It wasn't before, why would rank 9 change that?

Eoria - Harshlands

OP is just butthurt that her guild is apparently very bad at TW. b:chuckle

assassinsin101

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I remember some years ago before PWI there was less QQing in PWI. b:cry

I remember when there were fewer trolls on forums....Particularly ones who QQ about QQing...and consider themselves hot stuff when they're on the same side as tweakz and Yulk.

PWI has generally managed to **** the game over with terrible sales management. Not only does it give factions who are ALREADY taking the map because of the 'fix' even more of an edge, but you can now literally buy your endgame...and there's no reason to play anymore.

Roll a *insert class here*, buy IT some Rank gear, kill some *insert class here*, do a few TW's, get bored, wait for another expansion.

Rinse.
Wash.
Repeat.

......are we having fun yet?

Dellores - Dreamweaver

Well, all in all, this game's end-game is only for the cash shoppers and hardcore merchants. Every passing moment it becomes less approachable by new or more casual players, which is kinda sad, but not at all surprising. Its not all bad though, at least there are 2 options when there could've been only one

As forTW, the Victory Screen is all that matters. Why do you think the vast majority of R9 users are all in the same faction? Most people aren't looking for decent battles or challenges, they just wanna go to the winning team. That is why the map turns all one color, and why one faction has all the strongest people. Disappointing really =/

Tojop - Dreamweaver

Dellores - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Well, all in all, this game's end-game is only for the cash shoppers and hardcore merchants.

No. It's for people who actually farm their gear too.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

assassinsin101 wrote: »

I remember when there were fewer trolls on forums....Particularly ones who QQ about QQing...and consider themselves hot stuff when they're on the same side as tweakz and Yulk.

PWI has generally managed to **** the game over with terrible sales management. Not only does it give factions who are ALREADY taking the map because of the 'fix' even more of an edge, but you can now literally buy your endgame...and there's no reason to play anymore.

Roll a *insert class here*, buy IT some Rank gear, kill some *insert class here*, do a few TW's, get bored, wait for another expansion.

Rinse.
Wash.
Repeat.

......are we having fun yet?

Hilariously I often find myself at odds with tweakz and Yulk, it's you, QQer, who finds it most convenient to put me with them, so that you don't need to actually take an argument for face value.

Riddle me this -- factions who "take over the map", did they always have the players they have? Or were they gained? Did they accept people with crappy gear and help them get better gear? Or did those players already have their gear? Is factions owning the map a novelty? Or has this been done even way before the rep sale? If there's no reason to be playing anymore shouldn't you be finding another game? Or keep whining/trolling on the forums of a game that isn't worth playing, in your own words?

These mostly rhetorical questions, obviously, but hey, humor me and answer them anyways. Given the inconvenience of them for your argument, I'm certain to expect more "tweakz" and "Yulk" hilarity. I'm in doubt you can actually deliver more than that. b:bye

Michael_Dark - Lost City

This thread, as well as many others... just prove that to some players PWI can never do wrong. No matter what happens or what is done, PWI is their god and they bow and worship them and defend the sanctitiy of the great Pan Gu with all their fervor and might.

Please continue. It's fun to watch brainwashed fundamentalists defend all that is holy to them without even being affected by the things that are known as fact and reality.

b:chuckle

Dellores - Dreamweaver

And on the other hand you see people blaming PWI on every aspect of everything. PWI is the devil, everything it does and doesn't do is wrong. And yet, here they are, still playing xD

Barb_nico - Harshlands

wow lol zulu could win in 30 mins instead 20min w/o any r9 lol b4 rep sale we owned crimson in 20mins too so i dont see ur point

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

inb4 another tl;dr digressions

someone explain why we arent allowed to discuss a game, on game forums (pro tip: game forums are made to talk about game there).

or better: why we are allowed to discuss, if we have something good to say, but otherwise we are trolls, noobs or ppl with nothing better to do in life.

this one month long drama is really getting old and noone explained that yet..


not our fault that pw updates suck mostly and people want to talk about it.
if frankie (and you) want QQless forums, then he need to delete all sub-forums and leave just off-topic.


and pw is not devil, there are some good updates like dq points, which doesnt change fact that 'everyone' got more DD power now, while ability to build def is (i.e., for refine) 50% worse (due to 100% more expensive gold than 2 months ago).
this gotta affect TW and dont be surprised, that people want to talk about it.. seesh


try harder plz, trolls

Barb_nico - Harshlands

Nyxya - Harshlands wrote: »

i just feel like rank9 kind of sux any pvp experience from rest of players
tab-1hit-tab-1hit-tab-1hit...you know what i mean?

cause sin needs a lot of skills to play it?

Healforwimps - Heavens Tear

PvP would be infinitley better if the action was free flowing.ie.being able to dodge out of the way of attacks(including magical)to offset the 1 hit ko rubbish,lowering all casting times and upping the effectiveness of defensive equipments.

Then again that would mean playing a different game(which i have)as it's too late to rework pwi :P

NightRage - Raging Tide

Sorry cupcake, but PWE ruined TW a long time ago.

Nyxya - Harshlands

normal players work really hard to get 99 tt set with g9 or g8 and +3 or +5 refine and few years back was a nice setup i mean in pw-my you were able to go tw and take some hits do some kite ...survive more anyway...

normal players now have same setup but they face rank9+!2 with 30 atack lvl blessing+30 attack lvl from weapon +30 attack lvl from set+ ofc pure magic...and they might live 1 hit if are full buffed and is not a critical ... in my opinion this will end up transform pvp server into pve ..even more worse pve servers with out tw

this is not a topic about zulu or my sin was just an example and a topic for discussion lol....easy with trolling guys

DaKillanator - Raging Tide

Crim never had a chance against Zulu anyways b:bye

Zulu was wiping kylin in less than 20min long before rank sale, and Kylin was twice the faction Crim is, so it's no suprise to me that you get facerolled by Zulu

Baalbak - Dreamweaver

Nyxya - Harshlands wrote: »

crimson had 2 wars attack/defense with zulus and were about 20 min each...

that honestly doesnt sound very different than when Calamity dominated Dreamweaver. We'd see X attack on Calamity has begun, followed about 5-10 minutes later by "Calamity was victorious" (why they bothered to keep announcing what was already known is beyond me but meh).

I guess when more people get equivalent gear and get out of their tt90 greens, you'll see a difference. something to shoot for eh?