Which are you most afraid of? (Poll/Discussion)

archer stunning arrow 34m away? cya

the barb has the hp, but when the wizz does Stone Barrier its a whole diffrent thing b:angry

why shall i fear any of those? im a wiz i pwn1shot anything mwahaha

na seriously i wouldnt fear the high -chan wiz at all, id fear a high mag + crit equip wiz more than a high-chan wiz

+12 nirvana everywhere, but sharding vit stones? Stone of Gaea (G12 citrines), please.

And this build made me feel exceptionally good about my 14% crit rate.

prof wrote: »

vit stones add a little defense, which is multiplied at .03% of how much int/str you have to their respective defenses. I have 12 vit stones sharded on my mage, the other 12 stones being defense.

I wouldn't fear any of the cash-shopping fools in the above except the bm who, likely, has no idea what he's doing. money doesn't buy the ability to play, but that bm with magic sutra probably wouldn't die to a mage solo. especially if he has an ses.

Thank you for telling us what we all already knew.

Now, you tell me, with unbuffed pdef of 22k+, what possible benefit could this mage get from that added pdef? Take them off and his phys reduction goes from 85% to 84%. I bet with stone barrier he doesn't even get that measly reduction, whereas g12 citrines would give him an additional 1,200 hp over what the vit stones provide. b:surrender

Now, if your talking those +20 vit stones I've never seen in game but people sometimes refer too . . . .

prof wrote: »

you've unpacked the pwi client to know every single detail about every single aspect of this game?

And YOU have? You see, your question proves too much. If you need to do that to know anything, then you've rendered your entire original post useless.

prof wrote: »

that's how you and everyone else knows the exact percent of how much defense is gained from int/str with the addition of vit?

Um, no. The game tells you. Or in this case, the pwcalc told me. I guess once again you can assume those are wrong if you want to, but if you do that, what are you talking about?

prof wrote: »

20 vit stones are g13, unreleased in pwi

Yes, I know.

prof wrote: »

the defense that matters from vit stones is the magic defense. it might not look like a lot, but you certainly feel it when you fight other mages.

Yes, it has a greater impact on mdef - 4% vs 1% for pdef. I'll let the math wizards decide whether 1,200 hp is better or worst than 4% more mdef. My inclination is that hp is better since it benefits magic AND physical attacks.

And as for being able to "feel" the difference, are you saying that you have fought other mages with gear like this? 2 sets even? One sharded with vit stones and one sharded with g12 citrines? If so, I don't believe you. And noone else does either.

You could always shard a couple icebourne stones if you want more magic defense than what fn arcane nirvana provides . . . .b:scorn

prof wrote: »

yes i have, . . . 'm just better than you in every possible way in this game, and know every possible function that can happen under any given circumstance.

OK, wait for it . . . .

prof wrote: »

every visual percent in pw is rounded, usually up.

Wait wait wait

"Usually"? b:laugh

What do you mean, "usually". You know "every possible thing in every possible way, etc, etc, etc"

Where's that god-like certainty, mr. mystery? So much for how much you know.

prof wrote: »

do you actually plan to shard full hp? b:chuckle

Actually, I have 4 vit stones and 2 garnets. The rest citrines. Not by any great master plan. Thats what was available on our server when I wanted to socket my gear.

prof wrote: »

all around defense+100 hp per stone vs 150 hp and no defense(g12 also cost more than the vit stones..), for me the choice is easy. personal preference, I guess, but have fun being 1 shot by bids/tempest b:bye

LMAO @ g12 costing more when we are talking about someone with all +12 nirvana.

And if you are saying that an addition 4% reduction due to mdef would keep you from being 1 shot, again, I don't believe you.

Fully buffed (8.4k hp, 11k mdef, 11k pdef), I have never been 1-shot. I could be I suppose by a crit on bids from an equally geared wizard. I one-shot a certain arcane on our server with epic gear with cleric buffs but no hp buff, so I'm sure I could be 1 shot also.

Of course, if you actually had a character in this game worth a damn, you could give your name and we can just see how you walk from a crit bids by even a moderately geared wiz. Since you hide your identity like you do, forgive me if I view your wish for me to "have fun" with some skepticism that you could do any better.

prof wrote: »

usually, meaning not always. MOST OF THE TIME. but not a guarentee.

For someone that a sentence or two before claimed to "know all", to use a word like "usually" for whether mdef rounds up or rounds down made you look, well, just silly.

Sorry if you can't see that. I'm sure many others will.

prof wrote: »

everybody knows my names
prof
paradox
doc
habalopi
seventeen

Huh [*shrugs], never heard of you.

Which one is the wiz that can't be 1 shot? What server?

prof wrote: »

of course you've never heard of me, i don't play your ****ty pve server.

This wouldn't even be noteworthy (lots of people knock pve servers, yet seems more people play them than pvp servers, so people on pvp servers have a very, very limited frame of reference to relate to the majority of players in this game, so b:bye), EXCEPT that you then go on to say . . . . .

prof wrote: »

prof - 101 mg - utopia/ 2x on lost city b:laugh retired until i play seeker/mystic

You knock a wizard on a pve server for being on a pve server, but you yourself didn't even get to lvl 30 on lost city? b:chuckle And your cleric (thats right, i said cleric) was on HT? What's that? A bastion of pvp, I suppose?

Go to the MY-EN wizard forums. Or come to the Arch server and level a wizard. I'll wait. Then you can put something behind your words.

Till then, its still just you flapping your gums. As far as anyone here can tell, that wiz you named is your dad b:surrender

XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

<-- No - channeling at all, tho 12% crit rate (only 5 dex), over 470 mag Good to see someoen else focus on damage per hit instead of damage per second ^^

Noone does -channeling for dps. It doesn't even get us close to 5 aps. The difference in dps is noticeable, I suppose, but not significant.

They do -channeling to be able to get bids, BT, MS off quicker. DPH is useless if you get stunned before they hit.

XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

<-- No - channeling at all, tho 12% crit rate (only 5 dex), over 470 mag Good to see someoen else focus on damage per hit instead of damage per second ^^

tbh a little chan is important for pvp

~>sleep > bids/bt

u can get it alongside crit ~ i think i will replace my attendance ring for a second lunar-insignia in the future since my 12% channeling is (slightly) not enough to get one off within sleep time


at least 18% chan is desirable xd

prof wrote: »

do you actually plan to shard full hp? b:chuckle

all around defense+100 hp per stone vs 150 hp and no defense(g12 also cost more than the vit stones..), for me the choice is easy. personal preference, I guess, but have fun being 1 shot by bids/tempest b:bye

not to interfere in this debate....but, isn't this what genie Mage Star is supposed to address? Sharding for pdef and HP and use Mage for those special wiz v wiz battles. Just saying. It's difficult for me to see the necessity of sharding and gearing to increase magic defense when we have so much of it naturally. Maybe I'm wrong...

Oh and I voted for the archer.

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Noone actually uses mage star, least not that I know of anyway.

Yes, but there are some (Not I). AquaFlame (AF) armour is another. But, I think the point is, and one I believe I agree with you on, that sharding/gearing for mag def doesn't make sense (to me, at least)...if u are full arcane.

And, of course I'm talking about a pvp genie which is a totally different ballgame from the pve genie. Yes, Adroit convinced me of the necessity of having more than one. Been developing it for a little while. Curious how the affinity mixes draw u down certain paths.

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Unless you are going to +10 all your armor, I'd use all citrines. But I think his point wasn't that he was sharding for mdef, but sharding vit stones because it increased BOTH mdef and pdef and hp. I don't necessarily disagree strongly in principle, my point was simply this

-if $ is an issue, citrines are usually cheaper and better hitpoints

-if $ isn't an issue, go for the +150 hp stones (unless the +20 vit stones are/become an option, then its a no brainer to use those).

But I don't really get into these fantasy discussions, since it has very little to do with what anyone actually does in game.



Nobody uses either of those on either a pvp or pve genie, as far as I've ever seen.

Lost City has a couple of wizards that have Mage Star to pvp with...that I've seen...but it's rare I agree. But, I'm tinkering around with the combinations of affinity mixes to create a pvp genie. One has to wonder if the dev's intentionally branched skill types or if it were purely a random outcome. It's interesting to note that AbsDom will lock you out of alot of genie alchemy that is available. Same thing happens with the two big genie chi skills (CE, Siphon). However, if u follow the line suggested by the "wizard only" genie skills, there's an assortment of skills available to the wizard. I don't know if anybody else has noticed this phenomenon or not.

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Like our 100 skills, they screwed us on our wiz only genie skills.

Your premise seems to be that there is something new under the sun as far as this game goes, a premise which I have opposed elsewhere on these forums.

But if you insist on a quest for the holy grail, knock yourself out. Just let us know when you find it . . . .

Well, no. My premise is that as far as PVP genies go, if u follow the affinity mix patterns of the wizard only skills, there is some territory to be explored. Most master wizards advise that AbsDom is an absolute necessity...to stay alive. That's well understood. But, I've found that AbsDom will not fit very well with other skills that I would assume most wizards need (like me). It does mix with frenzy and the 2 major chi skills, yes ok, and frenzy is my fave all time...for PVE. But, we're talking about PVP and AbsDom interferes with many other options. So, I abandoned the idea that I had to start with AbsDom and build from there.

When I look at the fire/water affinities, which consist of the wizard only skills, there are many choices. I have to assume that defense is a primary concern. So, I started with Expel (much less expensive, affinity wise) and combined it with another defensive/immunity type skill. Thus, Aquaflame Armor (AF) entered the picture (there are a couple of other possibilities such as mage star to consider too). While AF does have the negative secondary debuff, it isn't hugely energy consuming so your genie recharges quite fast. Once these 2 defenses are combined with the apothecary invincibility powders...you can establish a formidable line of defense.

Now the four genie slots I have left can be filled with a whole assortment of other skills...such as: Badge of Courage (bing!), Cauterize, Spark, Occult Ice (bing!), and yes, as I could not resist ....Dragon Fire (bing!!)(evens the score nicely against bigger characters depending upon a defense level advantage).

There are other possibilities too...inflame, ice blast, impact...the list goes on. Oh, and Badge will debuff ironguard in reverse of how Fortify does it....a great technique for 12 seconds of fighting invincibility.

This not the "holy grail", but just an example of an interesting branch of affinity mix. There is another one too surrounding "Belief" (very tempting).