Adroit's first PvP video

Adroit - Lost City · October 2010

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

ice is not a stun so it bypasses fortify, adroits "proness" was never disputed, i never would have guessed that kiteing would take timeing or that *gasp* you die if you do it wrong. already made my point about the hax gear+ omg skill bm comments vs average gear wizzie + omg skill

opening with your longest range stun/freeze is actually bad if your taget can drop as you waste most of it flying to them bash or a MR prock are much trickier to get off, but leave the target in killing range the entire stun

on the ground yes it is far harder for a wizzie to kite...in the air just no you can fill most of the gap in blink>FoW combo by dropping... in a prevoius post was mentioned that yes lawbreaker does have merit for ground PK however in the air (where most of this happens) its not to usefull

also you say calvin only needs 1 stun.so why not cut off the only real way adroit has to kill him and just...wait for a proc/to get close enough to DB for a 100% kill rather than gamble? adroit could wait and by your definition thats part of "proness" the bm was rushing a fight what does that say?

its possible im just a bit jaded from the "omghax" bm's of sanc that like to use fists at 100 with 2.5 aps and full+10 gear or the ever present evade orn cult that are presented as "pro" despite the lack of any skill whatsoever

so only going by what is in the vid and not by personal endoresment (prehaps he had an off day o.o people do **** up)

so the short form of this 3 page arguement..more variation in classes please and some non tarded pkers to go against you. otherwise good vid nice timeing and smooth edits

*poofs before the objective opinion inquisition arrives to brainwash me*b:shocked

Fortify does resist occult. Tested this TONS of times.

Ursa - Dreamweaver · October 2010

Congratz hun on the vid. Very nice. Reminded me why I loved PWI and wizards.b:pleased

1 yr ago I guess my kiting skills were close to what I seen you do, right now after such a long break I dunno if I could kite a beetle b:chuckle . But I'm getting better at making SCVs, not getting supply blocked and apm is up into the 3 digits range. b:thanks

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur · October 2010

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

you do realize that I drop a LOT. So lets say I start above him.. after my first drop I'll be below him for the rest of the fight.. but again I really don't see any advantage in it. If you were to have the BM try to stay below me, he would have to drop farther than me each time.. which gives me extra time to do w/e I want. I think its really just a silly idea that you'd give up after 5 mins of trying it yourself.

You can't drop forever, there's ground down there.

And I tried. The bms on my server won't follow me more than 20-25m, if that. So at best I'd have 2 drops then id be on the ground. If i go higher, they go hit fei to get chi till i come back. Need to go back and see how high you were.

Adroit - Lost City · October 2010

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

You can't drop forever, there's ground down there.

And I tried. The bms on my server won't follow me more than 20-25m, if that. So at best I'd have 2 drops then id be on the ground. If i go higher, they go hit fei to get chi till i come back. Need to go back and see how high you were.

its not very difficult to go back up again lol just sayin'

BrownflameZ - Lost City · October 2010

WTB> Moar Calvin getting r4ped frand.

Adroit - Lost City · October 2010

BrownflameZ - Lost City wrote: »

WTB> Moar Calvin getting r4ped frand.

QQ I don't think its going to happen again. The 2 times I killed him.. he was prolly being a little overconfident or having a bad day + me being extremely lucky xD. Being that he does kill me over 50% of the time, I promised to put in a clip where he kills me in the next vid. I didn't really have any good footage so I 1v1'd Calvin yesterday.. was thinking it'd go the same as last time and it didn't.

I started by dropping figuring I'd just resist his second stun and he wouldn't be able to kill me at half damage with just 1 stun.. turns out I was wrong. He just debuffed me and apparently he switched to his evasion ornaments for that extra interval. That combined with me being self buffed (not barb buff like in my vid) he just killed me b4 I had a chance to do anything. Because that was not exactly the epic fight I was expecting, I tried again and this time i resisted his first stun and blinked away.. so he leaped towards me and occulted me b4 I had the chance to start dropping (I tried but the .5 sec delay or w/e didn't even go off).. anyway he killed me so fast my charm didn't tick (didn't have energy for domain as I came out before my genie had finished recharging). Anyway you'll be seeing this in my next vid.. not exactly sure when I'll be done as I'm learning how to use new video editing software atm. I'm sure I could beat him if we fought enough times, but just so everyone understands.. he kills me way more than I kill him

HexOmega - Dreamweaver · October 2010

WATS PWI FORUMS?

a nice video with nice quality and the music is ok too

i muted Haiz-video-sounds, the music was terribad (and now youtube made the vids unavailable cause the "music" tracks were under copyright)

make more of this!

prof · October 2010

what's so enjoyable about this video o.O all I see is run until gank, or killing 2-3 shots

and, before it's ******* at me by a million nerdraging fanboys: it's not kiting, it's running.

Adroit - Lost City · October 2010

prof wrote: »

what's so enjoyable about this video o.O all I see is run until gank, or killing 2-3 shots

and, before it's ******* at me by a million nerdraging fanboys: it's not kiting, it's running.

lolololol prof (forp) still trolling these forums. Think you'd have gotten a little better at it by now.

prof · October 2010

i'm not trolling, it's criticism. criticism would help you improve, i'd like to think someone of your.. skill level.. would like to.

go watch haiz, maybe you'll learn something

Adroit - Lost City · October 2010

prof wrote: »

i'm not trolling, it's criticism. criticism would help you improve, i'd like to think someone of your.. skill level.. would like to.

go watch haiz, maybe you'll learn something

and what would u suggest I do? Stand there and tank Calvin? LULZ
Obvious, troll is obvious.

prof · October 2010

I don't play your server, as you well know, so I have no idea who calvin is. I do, however, suggest you learn to actually kite. proficient kiting will lead to more dps while still avoiding maximal damage. you? you're just running away. I'm surprised you even stop to hit, perhaps you were hoping to slow a flying target? hell if I know, I never did figure out what goes through you pwi-pro's minds other than 'holy + crit itenz = mindgasm'.

out of curiosity, since I'm too busy to lurk these forums further than the 1st page, did anyone learn that dark + chant itenz = mindgasm as well?

Adroit - Lost City · October 2010

prof wrote: »

I don't play your server, as you well know, so I have no idea who calvin is. I do, however, suggest you learn to actually kite. proficient kiting will lead to more dps while still avoiding maximal damage. you? you're just running away. I'm surprised you even stop to hit, perhaps you were hoping to slow a flying target? hell if I know, I never did figure out what goes through you pwi-pro's minds other than 'holy + crit itenz = mindgasm'.

out of curiosity, since I'm too busy to lurk these forums further than the 1st page, did anyone learn that dark + chant itenz = mindgasm as well?

lol your trolling attempts are just too rich. It's a shame you try so hard, nobody is really going to take anything you say seriously. Maybe you could try making another acct. Although I'm sure you'd give yourself away in your first few posts. b:laugh

prof · October 2010

why is it always called trolling when you disagree with someone? I thought trolling(and in my profession of it, I should know what it means) was intentionally trying to make someone angry. posting things, usually false, trying to cause an uproar. ignoring previous facts/claims against them because obviously it wouldn't matter to them.

do you think I'm trying to make you angry? if so, you're soft. very soft. am I doing any of the other things I thought trolling was? no, I do not believe I am.

I can't tell if it's that you're too arrogant, and believe yourself to be the best(if so, I say ha to you); or if it's ignorance, because you're unknowing of other(better, more useful) ways to play your char.

again, go watch haiz. he's a good holy mg. you might learn something.

Amour - Lost City · October 2010

True, but why not offer him ways TO become better and do things differently? I see him kiting, between whirlwind occult ice and bm stuns it's very hard to safely kite a BM as a mage. As soon as they get you locked you're dead, basically.

I'd play the same way myself.

Shevanel - Sanctuary · October 2010

I've been watching Haiz vids this afternoon, and while Haiz and Adroits style differ, they're both very good at doing what they do.
Staying alive, and killing the opponent. While it's true you can't slow on flying mounts, Gush is a quick dps skill that was allowing Adroit to get Calvin close to 50% hp, also quick enough to not get caught by his stuns, and to kite away.

I can't comment a whole lot between Haiz and Adroit though cos I only watched Haiz's TW vids, and have not seen Ad in TW.

A little trick that calvin could do - hotkey a peice of armour to take off so his charm ticks (just an idea)

Either way, I can say I've learnt a whole lot from watching these two, and I look forward to getting closer to my gear, getting a charm and pking again.

prof · October 2010

Amour - Lost City wrote: »

True, but why not offer him ways TO become better and do things differently? I see him kiting, between whirlwind occult ice and bm stuns it's very hard to safely kite a BM as a mage. As soon as they get you locked you're dead, basically.

I'd play the same way myself.

because of the replies that I already see coming, lol

use hailstorm to paralyze,
earth dot to ^,
mountain seize stun(seems to use it, then run away as if they can chase after being stunned),
seal when a wr is getting near(to stop any stun and possible kill), not when they're far away
get more than 10% chant,
try fighting on the ground,
don't be afraid of taking 1 hit,
use sutra(jesus, you're holy),
blink only when you're taking damage/know your opponent is going to stun(makes them waste chi, hawt), not just because they're near you,
waste your sleep when a wr forgets sutra and is near half hp to use bids,
spend $30k on your char,

the list could go on forever, but he'll just call it trollingb:sweat

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · October 2010

prof wrote: »

because of the replies that I already see coming, lol

use hailstorm to paralyze,
earth dot to ^,
mountain seize stun(seems to use it, then run away as if they can chase after being stunned),
seal when a wr is getting near(to stop any stun and possible kill), not when they're far away
get more than 10% chant,
try fighting on the ground,
don't be afraid of taking 1 hit,
use sutra(jesus, you're holy),
blink only when you're taking damage/know your opponent is going to stun(makes them waste chi, hawt), not just because they're near you,
waste your sleep when a wr forgets sutra and is near half hp to use bids,
spend $30k on your char,

the list could go on forever, but he'll just call it trollingb:sweat

b:surrenderforp, did you know about this thing called 5 aps?

Bms hit like 5 attacks in one second, you really dont want to get touched by them

Also, a genie skill called occult ice will stun you for like 5-8 seconds and after that you are just ****ed. I think you should log back in and see how PvP is now.

BrownflameZ - Lost City · October 2010

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

QQ I don't think its going to happen again. The 2 times I killed him.. he was prolly being a little overconfident or having a bad day + me being extremely lucky xD. Being that he does kill me over 50% of the time, I promised to put in a clip where he kills me in the next vid. I didn't really have any good footage so I 1v1'd Calvin yesterday.. was thinking it'd go the same as last time and it didn't.

I started by dropping figuring I'd just resist his second stun and he wouldn't be able to kill me at half damage with just 1 stun.. turns out I was wrong. He just debuffed me and apparently he switched to his evasion ornaments for that extra interval. That combined with me being self buffed (not barb buff like in my vid) he just killed me b4 I had a chance to do anything. Because that was not exactly the epic fight I was expecting, I tried again and this time i resisted his first stun and blinked away.. so he leaped towards me and occulted me b4 I had the chance to start dropping (I tried but the .5 sec delay or w/e didn't even go off).. anyway he killed me so fast my charm didn't tick (didn't have energy for domain as I came out before my genie had finished recharging). Anyway you'll be seeing this in my next vid.. not exactly sure when I'll be done as I'm learning how to use new video editing software atm. I'm sure I could beat him if we fought enough times, but just so everyone understands.. he kills me way more than I kill him

lawlface. Nice to know at least someone is making a server that's pretty much dead, still a bit interesting with new footage.

Sigh.. I still remember the good old days when you were 8x, stealing my GV parties. THATS RIGHT, I STILL REMEMBER *****.

You grew up so fast! b:cry

Lmao, keep those videos coming buddy! Nice way to pass time since I'm perma-catshop in-game. =p

Adroit - Lost City · October 2010

prof wrote: »

because of the replies that I already see coming, lol

use hailstorm to paralyze, -takes significantly longer to cast than pyro or gush
earth dot to ^, -nvr lvl'd it for the 20% chance lol
mountain seize stun(seems to use it, then run away as if they can chase after being stunned), - don't want to be stunned the instant they wake up, gonna need to move sooner or later
seal when a wr is getting near(to stop any stun and possible kill), not when they're far away - when you've learned what lawbreaker is you can comment
get more than 10% chant, - got 18% bro
try fighting on the ground, -kiting is much easier in the air.. due to dropping
don't be afraid of taking 1 hit, -he kills me in < 1 sec if I'm taking full damage
use sutra(jesus, you're holy), - I do.. on the right oppoenents
blink only when you're taking damage/know your opponent is going to stun(makes them waste chi, hawt), not just because they're near you, - again learn what its like to pvp w/ genies
waste your sleep when a wr forgets sutra and is near half hp to use bids, -...?
spend $30k on your char, -lulz

the list could go on forever, but he'll just call it trollingb:sweat

It's almost as if you've never played pwi b:shocked! Maybe if you knew the first thing about interval chars or genies you wouldn't be giving such **** advice. b:chuckle

prof · October 2010

on the contrary, I've been fighting fist wr long before they even existed here. you're just terrified of them.

my advice is useful to you and your inadequate style of: run, run, run, wait for gank, run if it doesn't come, gank arrived, wait for stun lock, ok now attack.

god that's pro. that' show genies changed pk? you have to wait until you can pile someone to kill them these days? and you run from someone after you stun them? and paralyzing is useless so you shouldn't level the skills? and hailstorm isn't > gush in the sky? and kiting is easier in the sky when you can't slow your opponents running speed by 80%? and you automatically die if they ever hit you?

..

I guess that would make you pr0, grats

Adroit - Lost City · October 2010

prof wrote: »

on the contrary, I've been fighting fist wr long before they even existed here. you're just terrified of them.

my advice is useful to you and your inadequate style of: run, run, run, wait for gank, run if it doesn't come, gank arrived, wait for stun lock, ok now attack.

god that's pro. that' show genies changed pk? you have to wait until you can pile someone to kill them these days? and you run from someone after you stun them? and paralyzing is useless so you shouldn't level the skills? and hailstorm isn't > gush in the sky? and kiting is easier in the sky when you can't slow your opponents running speed by 80%? and you automatically die if they ever hit you?

..

I guess that would make you pr0, grats

lol you are so far off its not even funny. You wouldn't last 1 second (literally) against any good fist bm on pwi with your play style. But go ahead and think you know what you're talking about, its somewhat amusing.

Amour - Lost City · October 2010

prof wrote: »

on the contrary, I've been fighting fist wr long before they even existed here. you're just terrified of them.

my advice is useful to you and your inadequate style of: run, run, run, wait for gank, run if it doesn't come, gank arrived, wait for stun lock, ok now attack.

god that's pro. that' show genies changed pk? you have to wait until you can pile someone to kill them these days? and you run from someone after you stun them? and paralyzing is useless so you shouldn't level the skills? and hailstorm isn't > gush in the sky? and kiting is easier in the sky when you can't slow your opponents running speed by 80%? and you automatically die if they ever hit you?

..

I guess that would make you pr0, grats

You don't have genies on your server? If not, it would explain why your opinion is what it is.

Over_Kill - Lost City · October 2010

prof wrote: »

i'm not trolling, it's criticism. criticism would help you improve, i'd like to think someone of your.. skill level.. would like to.

go watch haiz, maybe you'll learn something

Comparing Haiz's vids with adroit's is not right. Haiz had above average gears for back then while now a days you will find multiple people with better gears then adroit. Also Haiz did not have to compete with any high APS users as far as I know from the vids. If Haiz played the same way today he would have died a lot.

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · October 2010

Over_Kill - Lost City wrote: »

Comparing Haiz's vids with adroit's is not right. Haiz had above average gears for back then while now a days you will find multiple people with better gears then adroit. Also Haiz did not have to compete with any high APS users as far as I know from the vids. If Haiz played the same way today he would have died a lot.

Haiz has been playing until like 2 months ago and I havent heard from him since. Haiz videos were TW vids not 1v1 PK vids. Most of Haiz's 1v1s were against barbs so yea.

prof · October 2010

I'm glad I quit before genies, they've apparently ruined the game entirely. makes what I see, from several years of experience, that I always saw as terrible and nobody should do that - pro. ew.

and I just logged into pwi, mirage stones for tw? lol gg

Amour - Lost City · October 2010

prof wrote: »

I'm glad I quit before genies, they've apparently ruined the game entirely. makes what I see, from several years of experience, that I always saw as terrible and nobody should do that - pro. ew.

and I just logged into pwi, mirage stones for tw? lol gg

You haven't played since genies? Why the **** are you even giving any kind of advice. They revamped the game entirely.

prof · October 2010

because I believed this was 'perfect world', whereas now I can see from being in game, I'm very sadly mistaken. this is no longer the game I use to play.

HexOmega - Dreamweaver · October 2010

genies are a fun addition to the game,

its just something new to you, so its automatically ruining the game for you

in fact i think pservers are hella boring since ur limited so the skills you have

also not on every server fist-users can reach the speed they have here
what really "ruined the game" are packs with gear like interval-capes and interval-tomes (5.0 is only possible for rank 8 archers with int-fists w/o these)

genies are a good thing and enhance the game

but..oblivious troll is oblivious

Kupuntu - Sanctuary · October 2010

HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »

also not on every server fist-users can reach the speed they have here
what really "ruined the game" are packs with gear like interval-capes and interval-tomes (5.0 is only possible for rank 8 archers with int-fists w/o these)

You can farm the -int cape (trophy mode or Lunar), Lunar weapon and CS the tomes. Or just use the Rank 4 archer top which isn't too expensive.

Of course it is much harder but definitely possible, people had that more than three years ago in China.

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