Adroit's first PvP video

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  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    prof wrote: »
    because I believed this was 'perfect world', whereas now I can see from being in game, I'm very sadly mistaken. this is no longer the game I use to play.

    I remember running into a quest, in my 90s, where the quest text made it very clear to me that the devs had meant "perfect world" in a sarcastic sense. I wish I had taken screenshots of that text.

    But, when you think about it, you can see other evidence of this. For example, consider the whole philosphy of wraiths (oops, world broken, trash, restart, oops, did not trash properly, oh well, **** this I give up). Or look at the "Bored..." rooms in the cube. I could probably come up with some other examples without much effort.
    You can farm the -int cape (Lunar trophy mode), Lunar weapon and CS the tomes. Or just use the Rank 4 archer top which isn't too expensive.

    Of course it is much harder but definitely possible, people had that more than three years ago in China.

    I fixed your suggestion for you :)
  • HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    really nice kiting on the vid well done
    if i am allowed to add a suggestion for the next vid:

    it would be nice to see more fights against other classes than bms/ barbs
    personally i would like to see fights against sins/pschics/clerics

    i got some question related to the pvp use of some skills:

    bids got 4s channeling how much -chan do you have , is it possible to cast bids without using fow or sophoric whisper before ?

    for the emberstorm --> does sage emberstorm reduce hp consumed from 60 down to 40% with the same dmg of emberstorm 10?

    greetz harm0wnie
  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited October 2010
    genies are a fun addition to the game,

    its just something new to you, so its automatically ruining the game for you


    in fact i think pservers are hella boring since ur limited so the skills you have

    also not on every server fist-users can reach the speed they have here
    what really "ruined the game" are packs with gear like interval-capes and interval-tomes (5.0 is only possible for rank 8 archers with int-fists w/o these)

    genies are a good thing and enhance the game




    but..oblivious troll is oblivious :p

    everybody is content with myen being a private server here? I promise, it's quite official(eh, cubizone probably has the administration team equivalent to a private servers), I just haven't played in awhile.

    genies make people invincible, make choosing a cultivation irrelevant, and they look extremely ***.

    bad.

    I played a wr when 3.33 was max atk speed. b:shutup
  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I like the idea of genies overall but I have to agree some genie skills are way too OP. In fact, I think this is the dev's idea of "let's make game much more complex and add OP skills so people stop whining about classes being imbalanced". Didn't seem to work so well. It's like they forget the enemy can use genies too.
  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    lol you are so far off its not even funny. You wouldn't last 1 second (literally) against any good fist bm on pwi with your play style. But go ahead and think you know what you're talking about, its somewhat amusing.
    i dont find your play style handy for me either, i guess each with their own style. actually i think even you would completely change the style with a +12 weapon and a freeze/stun/whatever disable genie skill since you are sage... so there are no footsteps to follow
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    really nice kiting on the vid well done
    if i am allowed to add a suggestion for the next vid:

    it would be nice to see more fights against other classes than bms/ barbs
    personally i would like to see fights against sins/pschics/clerics

    i got some question related to the pvp use of some skills:

    bids got 4s channeling how much -chan do you have , is it possible to cast bids without using fow or sophoric whisper before ?

    for the emberstorm --> does sage emberstorm reduce hp consumed from 60 down to 40% with the same dmg of emberstorm 10?

    greetz harm0wnie

    I'll see if I can add in some 1v1's with other classes in my next vid :P

    I have -18% channeling, and yes it is "possible" to cast it depending on who you are fighting. One technique I've used in the past for vit barbs is just blinking away and begin casting BIDS, as they get close I use fortify to resist the occult/mighty swing stun. Obviously it depends who you are fighting.. some people could potentially kill me before BIDS finally lands (interval chars).. and people that have half a brain can just move out of range or drop from the air for half damage (or some classes can sleep or seal me to cancel my skill). It's also very easy to use a mdef charm or some survival skill (like TE for the shield), so unless the person you are fighting is really stupid or cocky.. it generally doesn't make sense to use BIDS w/o sleep. BIDS is great in mass pvp because you can ninja it w/o people realizing its coming, or in 1v1's its useful when they are slept.. if your sleep is on cooldown.. you'd likely be better off using the chi for sutra or triple spark or something of the like.

    Not really sure about emberstorm, I still have mine lvl 1. I really only use it to knock sins out of stealth.. u see them disappear by someone, if you are lucky you can run over there and insta cast emberstorm to see if it knocks them out. Couldn't believe it actually killed beelze, must have just been the last little bit to finish him off.
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  • Alias - Dreamweaver
    Alias - Dreamweaver Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I'll see if I can add in some 1v1's with other classes in my next vid :P

    I have -18% channeling, and yes it is "possible" to cast it depending on who you are fighting. One technique I've used in the past for vit barbs is just blinking away and begin casting BIDS, as they get close I use fortify to resist the occult/mighty swing stun. Obviously it depends who you are fighting.. some people could potentially kill me before BIDS finally lands (interval chars).. and people that have half a brain can just move out of range or drop from the air for half damage (or some classes can sleep or seal me to cancel my skill). It's also very easy to use a mdef charm or some survival skill (like TE for the shield), so unless the person you are fighting is really stupid or cocky.. it generally doesn't make sense to use BIDS w/o sleep. BIDS is great in mass pvp because you can ninja it w/o people realizing its coming, or in 1v1's its useful when they are slept.. if your sleep is on cooldown.. you'd likely be better off using the chi for sutra or triple spark or something of the like.

    Not really sure about emberstorm, I still have mine lvl 1. I really only use it to knock sins out of stealth.. u see them disappear by someone, if you are lucky you can run over there and insta cast emberstorm to see if it knocks them out. Couldn't believe it actually killed beelze, must have just been the last little bit to finish him off.

    More videos please =(
    I can already remember the general flow of the fights so thats not good D:
    MAKE MOAR NAO!

    oh aaaaannnd how fast do -interval people kill you if you dont kite? O.o
    i know my wizzie gets wtfpwnt by decides/fc fists, but kinda hoping it gets slightly better endgamish....although from what ive seen at mah lame *** sever pk spot...It doesnt =(
  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Not sure if it helps but 16k pdef wiz here got pwned in like 2.5 secs in a testing duel (but BM has +10 TT100 fists I think, still he didn't spark or anything). :(
  • Bloop - Harshlands
    Bloop - Harshlands Posts: 490 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Not sure if it helps but 16k pdef wiz here got pwned in like 2.5 secs in a testing duel (but BM has +10 TT100 fists I think, still he didn't spark or anything). :(

    Why would anyone ever try to get 16k pdef...? Does he have like 5k hp as well?
    60 / 250.
  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Well his gear is decent-to-great (certainly a lot better than mine lol), although yeah he sharded garnets pretty heavily...
  • Alias - Dreamweaver
    Alias - Dreamweaver Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Not sure if it helps but 16k pdef wiz here got pwned in like 2.5 secs in a testing duel (but BM has +10 TT100 fists I think, still he didn't spark or anything). :(
    O_o......!
    Well that sucks ._.
  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited October 2010
    any end-game wr can kill any class, and tank like a beast(of course, with the right refines, stones, knowledge of glitching, build).

    I killed a 45k~ hp wb, in tiger with ep buffs, within the 7.5s axe stun. +9 lunar claws, hitting 3.33/s(before the new interval gear).
  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    45k HP omfg b:faint
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    45k HP omfg b:faint

    b:shockedwhats scary is that there are barbs on PWI with 40k+ HP
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Moog - Lost City
    Moog - Lost City Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    prof wrote: »
    any end-game wr can kill any class, and tank like a beast(of course, with the right refines, stones, knowledge of glitching, build).

    I killed a 45k~ hp wb, in tiger with ep buffs, within the 7.5s axe stun. +9 lunar claws, hitting 3.33/s(before the new interval gear).

    Cool story bro :O.

    _____

    I also wanna see how you play against venos (with nixes) and clerics.
  • Alias - Dreamweaver
    Alias - Dreamweaver Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    b:shockedwhats scary is that there are barbs on PWI with 40k+ HP
    wtf LIES HIDEOUS LIIIIIIEEEEEESSSSSSS
    Proof or i wont believe you >:l
    45k hp is just...its just not right <.<
  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited October 2010
    Cool story bro :O.

    _____

    I also wanna see how you play against venos (with nixes) and clerics.

    stun lock, lol

    roar > cyclone > fire glitch > smack once with axe > drake(without too much delay this should work 100% of the time), dragon if they're heavy, fist to death

    45k hp tank is normal after a server is lived a long time, or someone sells their car to buy gear b:chuckle
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    b:cuteWTS>my car for 8junb:dirty
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Magiere - Dreamweaver
    Magiere - Dreamweaver Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    b:cuteWTS>my car for 8junb:dirty

    Who in their right mind is stupid enough to get 8jun nowadays,
    after they pimped nirvana stats to +20 attack level, 7 months after its original start b:sweat
    Originally written by Satchiko to me regarding old spice commercial :
    Hello Perfect World. Look at your cleric, now back to me, now back to your cleric, now back to me. Sadly it isn't me. But if you stopped being a noob and started wearing sunglasses you could act like you're me. Look down, back up, where are you? You're on Dreamweaver with the cleric your cleric could be like. What's in your hand, back at me. It's an inventory filled with the gear you want. Look again, the gear is now diamonds. Anything is possible with sunglasses. I'm flying on starter wings.
  • Alias - Dreamweaver
    Alias - Dreamweaver Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    prof wrote: »
    stun lock, lol

    roar > cyclone > fire glitch > smack once with axe > drake(without too much delay this should work 100% of the time), dragon if they're heavy, fist to death

    45k hp tank is normal after a server is lived a long time, or someone sells their car to buy gear b:chuckle

    Proof plox~

    Srsly Highest ive seen is 20somethingK >.>
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I dunno what barbs you've seen around, but I know some that had close to 30k HP about a year ago.
    True, lately a lot of them went through a restat to fists/claws, guess it serves them better than more HP for 99.99% of what happens ingame.
    ____________
    I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it.
    George Carlin

    ~I listen to hardcore FIGHT songs when I visit the forum, just to get into the proper mood~

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Alias - Dreamweaver
    Alias - Dreamweaver Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I dunno what barbs you've seen around, but I know some that had close to 30k HP about a year ago.
    True, lately a lot of them went through a restat to fists/claws, guess it serves them better than more HP for 99.99% of what happens ingame.
    I can understand close to 30k hp.
    But i find 40k a bit hard to swallow which is why im asking for a SS or something not calling anyone out id just like to see it ._.
    Because a 40k barb would be dam near impossible to beat >.>.........especialy with a charm.
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    well, 40k is within reach for a sage barb with some of he amazing gear out there right now.
    just look at this, and I didn't even tried much
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=73994b575bac36f3
    I'm pretty sure I've seen a few barbs around with something like this on them. Not many, but 30k+ barbs in big TW factions were quite common. Not in high number, but common.

    I'm sure someone with more depth in HA gear could come up with something better.
    ____________
    I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it.
    George Carlin

    ~I listen to hardcore FIGHT songs when I visit the forum, just to get into the proper mood~

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Alias - Dreamweaver
    Alias - Dreamweaver Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    The day i see that barb is the day i rage quit <.<


    And miz why does facebook hate your boyfriend? :o
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    The day i see that barb is the day i rage quit <.<


    And miz why does facebook hate your boyfriend? :o

    it says gayness pains lol
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    There's a 35k HP barb on Raging Tide that I know of, could be more. b:bye
  • Alias - Dreamweaver
    Alias - Dreamweaver Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    it says gayness pains lol
    lmfarofllol :3


    and >.> RT Sucks D:<
    @Borusc o.o
  • Magiere - Dreamweaver
    Magiere - Dreamweaver Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Alias, every server except ours seems to have 30k+ HP barbs.
    On LC susa has like 37k if he goes full vit.

    Just imagine ppl like Azn, aujami, archangel, goonz etc. going Barbs instead of their chosen classes.
    They'd all have 35k+ HP. Its seriously no big deal.
    Originally written by Satchiko to me regarding old spice commercial :
    Hello Perfect World. Look at your cleric, now back to me, now back to your cleric, now back to me. Sadly it isn't me. But if you stopped being a noob and started wearing sunglasses you could act like you're me. Look down, back up, where are you? You're on Dreamweaver with the cleric your cleric could be like. What's in your hand, back at me. It's an inventory filled with the gear you want. Look again, the gear is now diamonds. Anything is possible with sunglasses. I'm flying on starter wings.
  • Alias - Dreamweaver
    Alias - Dreamweaver Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Alias, every server except ours seems to have 30k+ HP barbs.
    On LC susa has like 37k if he goes full vit.

    Just imagine ppl like Azn, aujami, archangel, goonz etc. going Barbs instead of their chosen classes.
    They'd all have 35k+ HP. Its seriously no big deal.
    It is for me D:<

    Oh and speaking of barbs...GET YOUR OUTTA THE TOURNY b:angry
    or i eat you b:cute

    SSs anyone :D
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