Dear European Players,
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I don't see where the point isn't coming from, save for the fact that many of the complaints are coming from people who skimmed it.
I'm seeing the problem like this:
People who live across the Atlantic and play on NA servers is basically the equivalent to using a special TV to watch North American programs from another country. As such, you realize that even though you have your own channels to watch, your favorite NA primetime shows come on too late for you. You technically can't complain, because the company won't change the programs to fit your schedule.
You chose to go onto NA servers, and even decided to pay to help them along, yet another choice that YOU made. If the game were p2p, it might make more sense to be able to complain. The thing that everyone skips over: If you make a choice, it's your choice. You wanna go somewhere that claims outright they don't cater for you, don't complain.
Btw, PWE(as in the company) is not the same as PWI. Meaning that even though PWE caters to everyone, PWI doesn't do so nessecarily.(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞
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Asmodiel - Heavens Tear wrote: »Does this mean we can't hug Americans anymore and vice versa? b:chuckle
Only if you're a cute european girl. b:avoidAnd after 12 pages it's time to die...b:bye
lol, I thought it should have died at the 1st page. b:chuckleI post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »Only if you're a cute european girl. b:avoid
Erm...you know how they say european girls have nice moustaches...
Now give me a hug b:chuckleb:chuckle"One of the most important factors, not only in military matters but in life as a whole, is ... the ability to direct one's whole energies towards the fulfillment of a particular task." - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel
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Will you stop taking this all out on europeans? I know "they" think this and that but whats the use of spamming the forums with an useless flame topic against them? Don't blame it on the GM's either.
Everyone's allowed to play this game, if you don't like it then just leave without making a fuss about it because one day you'll come back again, that won't happen if you get yourself banned before it though.
So.. to the 2 topics.. WILL YOU LEAVE EACHOTHER ALONE ALREADY?My sig is gone cus lol b:bye0 -
For all of you that think that everything should be tailored towards you in this game, please remember that
INTERNATIONAL=/= INTELLIGENT
I have truly had enough of the European players that complain. I have nothing against European players that understand the point above and that the servers are in the internet world and the times are fit for people of internet and real life, and because the game is paid from the US and the non-US player, that makes it INTERNet-ATIONAL, not Int-elligent because the US and Canada are ONLY TWO OF MORE COUNTRY-NATION THAT CONTRIBUTE AT SERVER-GAME. Just because YOU CHOSE to play in internet online game that have update Tideborn&new event (only PWI, PWCH and PWTH), DOES NOT mean that US Player ACCEPT to make 2-TIME EVENT FOR AMERICAN AND EUROPEAN COUNTRY. There are European servers for Perfect World without Tideborn expansion (but not run by PWE), and therefore we are contents that you contribute at PWI, with coin, with gold-zen with people to play partyTT, becouse USA and Europe is the Country of democracy and economic liberty
Into an dictatorship country probably the government stop people of internet-ational with IP Block, but into the Perfect World this is not possible.
For this reason this insults: " so get it through YOUR THICK SKULLS that just because you can play here doesn't mean that times for everything should be for you."
For that reason we defend that you have aldready been see into this game (Nien Beast event with 2 hours time each day 1 for european player and 1 for American Player, not only USA and Canada...know brazilian?!) and we are too much democratics in order to do again it.
Sincerely
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BuyOrSell - Dreamweaver wrote: »For all of you that think that everything should be tailored towards you in this game, please remember that
INTERNATIONAL=/= INTELLIGENT
I have truly had enough of the European players that complain. I have nothing against European players that understand the point above and that the servers are in the internet world and the times are fit for people of internet and real life, and because the game is paid from the US and the non-US player, that makes it INTERNet-ATIONAL, not Int-elligent because the US and Canada are ONLY TWO OF MORE COUNTRY-NATION THAT CONTRIBUTE AT SERVER-GAME. Just because YOU CHOSE to play in internet online game that have update Tideborn&new event (only PWI, PWCH and PWTH), DOES NOT mean that US Player ACCEPT to make DOUBLE EVENT FOR AMERICAN AND EUROPEAN COUNTRY. There are European servers for Perfect World without Tideborn expansion (but not run by PWE), and therefore we are contents that you contribute at PWI, with coin, with gold-zen with people to play partyTT, becouse USA and Europe is the Country of democracy and economic liberty
Into an dictatorship country probably the government stop people of internet-ational with IP Block, but into the Perfect World this is not possible.
, semplice come quello, in modo da ottengalo tramite i vostri crani spessi che solo perch
Wow that is a long run on wall of text, try again please0 -
And the cycle of rage rages on... b:surrender0
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Posts from Deora burn my eyes right out of their sockets.0
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Please Ban racist country player.
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I love reading rages b:chuckle0
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Silest - Sanctuary wrote: »Posts from Deora burn my eyes right out of their sockets.
Wow... just wow...BuyOrSell - Dreamweaver wrote: »Please Ban racist country player.
b:chuckle
Where did I say anything Racist? last I checked European IS NOT a race..., oh and nice hiding behind an alt Merovingio0 -
News Flash:
THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND NORTH AMERICA.
Get over it. It's not fair to us. We outnumber you in the servers, we ought to be listened to. I have to get up at 2 in the morning to TW, and stay up until 9 just to get into the Tiger Event.
I bet if it was you "americans" you'd be whining and b*tching and throwing nukes at people.
By the way, I'm an American, LIVING in Europe, which tells you how ignorant some people are. There's some of us out here who's families are working in other countries trying to make them better. All *I* ask is that I get a little less time staying up at night.0 -
Febuary - Harshlands wrote: »News Flash:
THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND NORTH AMERICA.
Get over it. It's not fair to us. We outnumber you in the servers, we ought to be listened to. I have to get up at 2 in the morning to TW, and stay up until 9 just to get into the Tiger Event.
I bet if it was you "americans" you'd be whining and b*tching and throwing nukes at people.
By the way, I'm an American, LIVING in Europe, which tells you how ignorant some people are. There's some of us out here who's families are working in other countries trying to make them better. All *I* ask is that I get a little less time staying up at night.
You obviously did not read a single word I posted, I never said anything about that, what I did say is that Europeans need to get over themselves thinking that everything should be for them. Europeans playing PWI made a conscious choice to play on American servers, so they need to accept the fact that the times for things will be geared towards Americans, and even for me living here in the US, event times can be a bit ridiculous to me as well. I have played game in which the primary audience was Europe knowing that I never once complained about the times (it was also and F2P mmo) and I never saw a single American whine about the times they did events (and they only had 1 time they did it, catered just for Europeans) and I met quite a few people that were from the US.
So you need to read what has been posted properly before trying to argue b:bye0 -
the OP is actually very correct about everything, and I have no idea why you are hating on he/she
Although, I wouldnt mind having european times, TW at 3 in the afternoon is a hell of alot better then 8pm
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Deora - Lost City wrote: »For all of you that think that everything should be tailored towards you in this game, please remember that
INTERNATIONAL=/= GLOBAL
I have truly had enough of the European players that complain. I have nothing against European players that understand the point above and that the servers are in the US and the times are fit for people in the US and Canada, and because the game is tailored for the US and Canada, that makes it INTERNATIONAL because the US and Canada are TWO SEPARATE COUNTRIES. Just because YOU CHOSE to play on this server DOES NOT mean that PWE SHOULD tailor the game for you. There are European servers for Perfect World (but not run by PWE), and therefore YOU are lucky they even allow you to PLAY ON THESE SERVERS AT ALL, they could very easily just IP Block everyone but the US and Canada, simple as that, so get it through your thick skulls that just because you can play here doesn't mean that TIMES FOR EVERYTHING SHOULD BE FOR YOU.
Sincerely,
A player aggravated with Europeans that complain.
Shut it you stupid yank!0 -
Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »the OP is actually very correct about everything, and I have no idea why you are hating on he/she
Although, I wouldnt mind having european times, TW at 3 in the afternoon is a hell of alot better then 8pm
Two in the MORNING, not in the afternoon.0 -
Im not some genious on time zones, but tw would be 3 in the afternoon if it shifted over to lets say, the UK, seeing as it is 5 hours ahead, and tw for me right now is at 8pm.0
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OP is a miserable *** hat. I mean, Honestly.
That said, PWI put their servers in North America, and based them on Pacific time.
It is a shame that they don't schedule things more appropriately for our European players, but there it is. Seriously - When was the last time the players were able to convince PWI to make a major change because of player input?
If you don't like the way they game you play is administered, then don't play. If you don't like the hours they schedule for group events - either lobby the *company* for changes, or get up in the middle of the night. Moaning here is *completely pointless*. The suggestions forum or GTFO. If you don't like hearing euro players whining about the hour of the night it is, then stay off the forums.
It's a game - it's meant to be entertainment. If it is no longer that for you, then find something that *is* entertaining for you.
Put on your Big Girl Panties and Deal With It.
That means you too OP - enough of your whining and crying and hissy-fits.
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\noticed the OP was a LC player as well
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Amunet - Heavens Tear wrote: »Shut it you stupid yank!
lol Some of you are way too sensitive. Breathe, get some fresh air and breathe.0 -
Deora - Lost City wrote: »You obviously did not read a single word I posted
You really like saying people don't read your posts right? Can't blame you, I'd rather have not read them in the first place either.
People DO read posts you know, just cause their posts don't fit in your vision of the discussion doesn't mean they didn't read yours. They're actually putting forward valid points of why YOU are being the stereotypical thick-headed american, and you've been proving them right so far.
Oh by the way, I didn't feel rest of that post being worth reading. So bite me.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »International means.........
adjective
1. between or among nations; involving two or more nations: international trade.
2. of or pertaining to two or more nations or their citizens: a matter of international concern.
3. pertaining to the relations between nations: international law.
4. having members or activities in several nations: an international organization.
5. transcending national boundaries or viewpoints: an international benefit; an international reputation.Deora - Lost City wrote: »And the way it is used to describe the game best fits 1 and 4, which is true because like I said in my first post, the US and Canada are two separate countries, thus making the international bit true
I think best fit is 5. Because American version is owned by "Perfect World Co. Ltd." (China). So this version is international comparing with China version.0 -
As a European player I'm sick of other European players complaining too. I'm sick of people who can't pick up a dictionary and read what international means and I'm sick of them prancing around on these forums demanding that they have something tailored to suit them because "QQ it's not fair" or whatever other piece of **** reason they come up with.
Really. This complaining is getting so stupid and it doesn't matter how many times you tell people that "international" means between TWO OR MORE nations and that since PWI is between the US and Canada it is indeed international, people still think they can sit around and demand the right to get something tailored to them.
Stop. ****ing. Complaining.
The GMs cannot make anything suited to your time slot. The forum mods can't do anything about it. And the player base certainly can't no matter how much you sit here and whine and complain and tell everybody how supposedly unfair it is. Stop making the rest of the European players look bad.
Similarly, that's not to say that something couldn't be tailored to better fit a European time scale. It wouldn't be hard to have something that takes place at 9PM/10PM/11PM in Europe - which is not unreasonable to most and bull**** to the people who say it is - and that's not an unreasonable time for certain Americans either. Particularly if it's on a weekend.
tl;dr facts
1) This game is international. Stop saying it isn't and go read a dictionary instead.
2) This game is not global. Stop demanding that they cater to you because you make every other European who doesn't sit and complain like you look bad.
3) It wouldn't be difficult for them to implement something at a semi-reasonable time for Europeans. But if you carry on ******** at them and calling them stupid, do you think they're going to listen to you?
4) If it's such an issue to you, every single one of you needs to send a ticket detailing this. It's more professional, if you people all get together and send enough they might consider something, and it keeps these forums free of stupid complaints. Complaining on these forums has barely done anything before, what makes you think it will do something now?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
^ Brilliant poster doesn't know how to read before reacting. Two in the afternoon is correct, since they are referring to a night TW in Europe at the same time current TW's are held, which would hypothetically be an afternoon NA TW. Get it yet, Einstein?Febuary - Harshlands wrote: »Two in the MORNING, not in the afternoon.
Anyhow, the European complaints are quite hilarious. The server runs on NA time, PST to be exact. Why? Because that's where the fricken server is. Had it be run in Europe or on GMT or similar, us in NA would kindly quit whining about not getting events at the most applicable time for us. European players need to either quit whining or enjoy getting laughed at for silly QQ. b:bye
The international aspect is that Europeans aren't IP banned from playing the game, not that they bend over backwards to accompany every nook and cranny of the planet that isn't banned from playing this version. People should really learn the difference.0 -
Pointless thread is pointless thread. The OP can understand it or i write here in hungarian?
Another thing, just read the forum rules dear friends. Linking or advertising another versions of pw not allowed here on forum, especially private servers. PWE has the right to manage event times, if they wanted to, they make it (i guess they don' care about this), and this is not hang on player base, only on managers.
Make a little favor us dear OP. Just dont post more...
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Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »As a European player I'm sick of other European players complaining too. I'm sick of people who can't pick up a dictionary and read what international means and I'm sick of them prancing around on these forums demanding that they have something tailored to suit them because "QQ it's not fair" or whatever other piece of **** reason they come up with.
Really. This complaining is getting so stupid and it doesn't matter how many times you tell people that "international" means between TWO OR MORE nations and that since PWI is between the US and Canada it is indeed international, people still think they can sit around and demand the right to get something tailored to them.
Stop. ****ing. Complaining.
The GMs cannot make anything suited to your time slot. The forum mods can't do anything about it. And the player base certainly can't no matter how much you sit here and whine and complain and tell everybody how supposedly unfair it is. Stop making the rest of the European players look bad.
Similarly, that's not to say that something couldn't be tailored to better fit a European time scale. It wouldn't be hard to have something that takes place at 9PM/10PM/11PM in Europe - which is not unreasonable to most and bull**** to the people who say it is - and that's not an unreasonable time for certain Americans either. Particularly if it's on a weekend.
tl;dr facts
1) This game is international. Stop saying it isn't and go read a dictionary instead.
2) This game is not global. Stop demanding that they cater to you because you make every other European who doesn't sit and complain like you look bad.
3) It wouldn't be difficult for them to implement something at a semi-reasonable time for Europeans. But if you carry on ******** at them and calling them stupid, do you think they're going to listen to you?
4) If it's such an issue to you, every single one of you needs to send a ticket detailing this. It's more professional, if you people all get together and send enough they might consider something, and it keeps these forums free of stupid complaints. Complaining on these forums has barely done anything before, what makes you think it will do something now?
For those of you that didn't like how I posted it, Airyll said the same damn thing I did just in a different way, in case you didn't notice. b:bye0 -
Deora - Lost City wrote: »For those of you that didn't like how I posted it, Airyll said the same damn thing I did just in a different way, in case you didn't notice. b:bye
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TBH this is free to play with cash shop- with all the issues it has who really cares where your from or what time tw's are!!
Its free!! if you don't like it go play a subscription game where you have a right to complain!!
I hate yanks who fly off the handle at us Europeans!
your just making a case for us as to why we think your become the jackasses of the world!
And all you idiots who say that we are lucky that our IP's are not banned- LOL to you- pwi would never do that as they would loose a significant amount of money from their cash shop!0 -
im sick of this game b:cute0
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Amunet - Heavens Tear wrote: »TBH this is free to play with cash shop- with all the issues it has who really cares where your from or what time tw's are!!
Its free!! if you don't like it go play a subscription game where you have a right to complain!!
I hate yanks who fly off the handle at us Europeans!
your just making a case for us as to why we think your become the jackasses of the world!
The real jackasses are people like you that judge people because of what nationality they are. Hypocrite.0 -
Amunet - Heavens Tear wrote: »TBH this is free to play with cash shop- with all the issues it has who really cares where your from or what time tw's are!!
Its free!! if you don't like it go play a subscription game where you have a right to complain!!
I hate yanks who fly off the handle at us Europeans!
your just making a case for us as to why we think your become the jackasses of the world!
And all you idiots who say that we are lucky that our IP's are not banned- LOL to you- pwi would never do that as they would loose a significant amount of money from their cash shop!
How. Many. Times. Do. I. Need. To. Say. It.
I have nothing against Europeans that don't complain, but I have had it with the ones that do.0
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