Wizards vs Assasins...

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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I was on a pve server on Rated, i know theres not too many ppl in pk mode, even way more less at 3-4x. and from i've cared to see of yulk, he's a d0uche, and i'm not anything like him, you just don't like it when someone elses opinions make sense. b:thanks

    Someone comparing me to a mememememe rofl. Sins never 2 shotted my wiz. You freaking liar, its not endgame, I could of rolled sin in duel as a wiz, though i did lose but I whacked the sin hard . Your a non-factor fail b:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Thanks for Flauschkatze for siggy b:cool

    VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
    HA > LA > AR... GG

    HA + VIT = win b:bye
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    okay mr. Q.Q heres my solution. All of you Q.Qing children should just go ragequit because the devs will not "fix" the "broken" class, it brings a ton of $$ to them for how much people are willing to spend to stay alive, it takes a very tactful person to play a sin, to plan out their moves, to ADAPT to their current situation, and to think on their feet. Have you ever taken the time to read the tideborn's bio on pwi wiki?..I bet not, and don't give me the bs that you have. Here's my final input. Sins are just so freaking awesome that we should all just be sins and roflpwn each other all day long!....do you sir have a sin?...I bet that you are so enticed in your own melancholy display of grief that you haven't even tried one. Barbs and bms = b:shocked for sins, for their high p def and stun skills. Archers, wizards, venos, clerics, psys not so much...

    like astro said...again

    HA>LA
    LA>AA
    AA>HA
    The stupid dev. tactics will cost leaving people. So sooner or later they will force to nerf them. But it can be pretty late. I bet at least 40% players will leave when GW2 come out. Remember my words.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    like astro said...again

    HA>LA
    LA>AA
    AA>HA

    I lol'd.

    It's more like

    HA>LA
    LA<AA
    AA>HA

    Except with sins. Especially endgame geared 5 APS sins that triple spark, then tele stun you from out of your range no matter what class you are. Then it's

    LA>HA
    LA>AA
    LA LA
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    The stupid dev. tactics will cost leaving people. So sooner or later they will force to nerf them. But it can be pretty late. I bet at least 40% players will leave when GW2 come out. Remember my words.

    Even if that doesnt happen this game will turn to **** because everyone eventually will level their sin and reroll because they are so over powered. What's the reason to play any other class if you can just choose 1 and faceroll over everyone endgame?

    @ Rated- yes i have tried Sins and have heard from other sin users, they are so stupidly easy to play it takes the fun out of the game since you dont need any skill. It takes less skill to play a sin effectively than a veno sending nix and clicking flesh ream.

    Only with sins you cant see the "nix" to be ready for it.

    With all the control skills combined with survival skills sins are OP, you cannot/should not have both in a game like this

    as for your comment about reading pwi bio about sins or w/e trash a bio tells you:

    heres another example of the games inability to follow through when creating new classes

    http://pwi.perfectworld.com/gameinfo/classes

    notice how they never added psychics or sins, which leads me to say they didnt do a lot of research while creating the classes to make them balanced, they just threw them together and slapped a sticker price on without fine tuning their skills or even their desription.

    /thread
  • Astrohawke - Lost City
    Astrohawke - Lost City Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Even if that doesnt happen this game will turn to **** because everyone eventually will level their sin and reroll because they are so over powered. What's the reason to play any other class if you can just choose 1 and faceroll over everyone endgame?

    @ Rated- yes i have tried Sins and have heard from other sin users, they are so stupidly easy to play it takes the fun out of the game since you dont need any skill. It takes less skill to play a sin effectively than a veno sending nix and clicking flesh ream.

    Only with sins you cant see the "nix" to be ready for it.

    With all the control skills combined with survival skills sins are OP, you cannot/should not have both in a game like this

    as for your comment about reading pwi bio about sins or w/e trash a bio tells you:

    heres another example of the games inability to follow through when creating new classes

    http://pwi.perfectworld.com/gameinfo/classes

    notice how they never added psychics or sins, which leads me to say they didnt do a lot of research while creating the classes to make them balanced, they just threw them together and slapped a sticker price on without fine tuning their skills or even their desription.

    /thread

    Have you ever played a sin to 90 or 100 and actually PvPed with it? And I'm not talking about 1 shotting arcanes with like 1k physical def or whatever because if a sin can 1 shot you so can everyone else. It is not easier to play than clicking flesh ream on a nix lmao. It's not even easier to play than a BM who has more and better control skills and better survivability.

    You have to chain the stun, silence, immobilize and sleep perfectly as well as using chi gaining skills in between to lock someone because if they break out of lock and get a chance to attack you, chances are you're dead. This also means you're strictly 1v1 because if there's another person around, you can't lock someone for shxt and you WILL die or go hide in stealth and be useless to whoever is on your team. Hence why sins are so crappy in tw.

    What does a BM do? 6 second stun whack whack whack 2nd 6 second stun whack some more occult ice keep whacking oh look 1st 6 second stun has cooled down lmao. So much more skill involved.
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Have you ever played a sin to 90 or 100 and actually PvPed with it? And I'm not talking about 1 shotting arcanes with like 1k physical def or whatever because if a sin can 1 shot you so can everyone else. It is not easier to play than clicking flesh ream on a nix lmao. It's not even easier to play than a BM who has more and better control skills and better survivability.

    You have to chain the stun, silence, immobilize and sleep perfectly as well as using chi gaining skills in between to lock someone because if they break out of lock and get a chance to attack you, chances are you're dead. This also means you're strictly 1v1 because if there's another person around, you can't lock someone for shxt and you WILL die or go hide in stealth and be useless to whoever is on your team. Hence why sins are so crappy in tw.

    What does a BM do? 6 second stun whack whack whack 2nd 6 second stun whack some more occult ice keep whacking oh look 1st 6 second stun has cooled down lmao. So much more skill involved.

    no i have not played a sin 90+, but i have fought plenty with my 2 characters, and have watched many. my cleric has 4500ish phys def and 5k hp. Recently on my mage, with full buffs, I had 5500ish hp, and 7k+ phys def. I was killed before any damage even showed in my damage log by a sin a few lvls under me.. he "spawned" next to me and i fell to the ground without seeing any attack.

    whenever i get 1shot its my own fault for letting it happen, except vs sins. You cannot counter what you cannot see coming.

    OP class is OP

    the one thing u got right in all ur posts is that sins arent that great in tw, but they are OP anywhere else and everywhere else. Fighting bms are much easier as you have a chance to kite them + they cant hide in the shadows if their lock doesnt work. people like u who preach HA > LA, LA> AA, AA > HA or w/e make no sense, since assassins can just stay in stealth to avoid HA's. So as it is now: Sin > all classes.
  • Rated_PG - Harshlands
    Rated_PG - Harshlands Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    no i have not played a sin 90+, but i have fought plenty with my 2 characters, and have watched many. my cleric has 4500ish phys def and 5k hp. Recently on my mage, with full buffs, I had 5500ish hp, and 7k+ phys def. I was killed before any damage even showed in my damage log by a sin a few lvls under me.. he "spawned" next to me and i fell to the ground without seeing any attack.

    whenever i get 1shot its my own fault for letting it happen, except vs sins. You cannot counter what you cannot see coming.

    OP class is OP

    the one thing u got right in all ur posts is that sins arent that great in tw, but they are OP anywhere else and everywhere else. Fighting bms are much easier as you have a chance to kite them + they cant hide in the shadows if their lock doesnt work. people like u who preach HA > LA, LA> AA, AA > HA or w/e make no sense, since assassins can just stay in stealth to avoid HA's. So as it is now: Sin > all classes.

    Yep sins own all classes that makes you a failure, gf noob, sins own all we are the best, go Q.Q some more.
    E.D.N.T.H.O.O.E.I.S.B

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Extreme Dex Nuke The Hell Out Of Everybody In Sight Build

    The path I chose is this, terrorizing anyone my daggers touch, sacrificing a pitiful bit of defense for amazingly high hits and crits, watching as everyone I come across hits the floor before they can react to my devastating hits, seeing them vanish in despair knowing they just got nuked. b:cool Yeah if this is wrong I don't want to be right. This is my build and the way I chose, if you don't like it, well gf to you. b:cool

    Sins aren't op'd it's just that you suck ^.^.
    I'm a sin even at 3x I can kill all you oracled 10x noobs >.<
  • Astrohawke - Lost City
    Astrohawke - Lost City Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    the one thing u got right in all ur posts is that sins arent that great in tw, but they are OP anywhere else and everywhere else. Fighting bms are much easier as you have a chance to kite them + they cant hide in the shadows if their lock doesnt work. people like u who preach HA > LA, LA> AA, AA > HA or w/e make no sense, since assassins can just stay in stealth to avoid HA's. So as it is now: Sin > all classes.

    There is only TW and PK. There is no anywhere else and everywhere else. Even in PK they only really shine in 1v1 PK and how many PK situations are 1v1 except for the occasional RPK spree?

    So let's just say they are actually OP in PK but like you agreed, they are **** in TW. Why then does that make them an OP class when they are only really powerful in the less important of the 2 PvP scenarios and total garbage in the other?

    And since when does avoiding someone = beating them? That's like saying Barb > all because I can tank everything long enough to holy path to sz.
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    aww 490 kills at 100, how many of those were your classes op's 1 shots?....now that theres a class that can stand up to you, you feel you have to Q.Q about every little thing with that class to make your point seem valid, when you're just upset that you don't own every single class now. xD...how sad....how sad...and yes, I do pk at lvl 30, I have only gotten pked...3 times?....a stalker 8x sin...and a 100+ archer...2 times..wow...but 15/3...thats not a good lvl 30 record at all, i've defeated every class no matter the gear they had, and if i went back for seconds, they shouldve learned to stay in a safe zone. All the wizzies i've dueled, and the one I pked, never once Q.Q'ed, because they know stealth is a skill....but even then..they still never got a hit in with me 1-2 shotting them every time, if they would've hit me first, then I wouldve died probably. So please, before your head gets any bigger, try to get some skills b:victory woo ur lvl 100...woooo that makes you a pro?...i think not

    Even if I was a lvl 105 sin, that had a 10x on every server, with so much xp that it made me sick, My points would still not be valid to you, because you are too thick skulled to see some good moves, and attempt to use them when you are given the opprotunity. wow...way to drop the ball there hun.


    well, just FYI, probably about 50 of those kills are free world PvP ... maybe even less. ppl in PK mode on DW are either uber geared or nubs. I don't feel good 1 hitting lvl 30's that pressed the wrong button, and the rest of the PK bunch is pretty much even. You meet the same ppl, you know their gear and their mother's gear and genie configuration, energy and tactics. Pretty boring.
    I'm not making a big mistake if I say 400 of those kills were in TWs that happened before anni packs came out, between July '09 and December '09, and with some exceptions, serious TWs begun after anni packs came out, as the faction we were going against had probably the most CSers on DW. They were having 3 rank8 when Calamity had none + a lot of other very well equipped ppl. A +10-11 rank8 bow hurts and you can't hurt him much with a +5 Sensoid Emptiness or Wraith Conquerer when he has about 3x your HP and full buffed. Good old times.
    And I quit Calamity in December '09...and TWs around Feb '10. How many of those were oneshots? I dunno, but a lot of them. I can't help it when a gush or a SR onshots someone. It's not me being OP, is the other one that sucks.
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  • Rated_PG - Harshlands
    Rated_PG - Harshlands Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    It's not me being OP, is the other one that sucks.

    tyvm =D, just answered the age old question of s.v.w
    E.D.N.T.H.O.O.E.I.S.B

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Extreme Dex Nuke The Hell Out Of Everybody In Sight Build

    The path I chose is this, terrorizing anyone my daggers touch, sacrificing a pitiful bit of defense for amazingly high hits and crits, watching as everyone I come across hits the floor before they can react to my devastating hits, seeing them vanish in despair knowing they just got nuked. b:cool Yeah if this is wrong I don't want to be right. This is my build and the way I chose, if you don't like it, well gf to you. b:cool

    Sins aren't op'd it's just that you suck ^.^.
    I'm a sin even at 3x I can kill all you oracled 10x noobs >.<
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    oh, wow, taking phrases out of context to prove a point.
    WTG.
    BTW, your village called, they want their idiot back.

    /thread
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    I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it.
    George Carlin

    ~I listen to hardcore FIGHT songs when I visit the forum, just to get into the proper mood~

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear
    Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    He strikes me more as a red headed step child.
    The doctor will see you now.
  • Rated_PG - Harshlands
    Rated_PG - Harshlands Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    He strikes me more as a red headed step child.

    proves how much you know, or intuitive you are ;) i have brown hair tyvm even though hair wasn't your point, i'm just saying....gf idiot....and btw, i own you cause im a sin, my 3x owns ur 9x self...cause i'm an op sin, man i can own any 10x cause i'm a sin, that's how i roll b:cool
    E.D.N.T.H.O.O.E.I.S.B

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Extreme Dex Nuke The Hell Out Of Everybody In Sight Build

    The path I chose is this, terrorizing anyone my daggers touch, sacrificing a pitiful bit of defense for amazingly high hits and crits, watching as everyone I come across hits the floor before they can react to my devastating hits, seeing them vanish in despair knowing they just got nuked. b:cool Yeah if this is wrong I don't want to be right. This is my build and the way I chose, if you don't like it, well gf to you. b:cool

    Sins aren't op'd it's just that you suck ^.^.
    I'm a sin even at 3x I can kill all you oracled 10x noobs >.<
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    proves how much you know, or intuitive you are ;) i have brown hair tyvm even though hair wasn't your point, i'm just saying....gf idiot....and btw, i own you cause im a sin, my 3x owns ur 9x self...cause i'm an op sin, man i can own any 10x cause i'm a sin, that's how i roll b:cool

    Play your dying game and be happy. I found another game much better than yours "perfect world". Maybe one time there will be no another classes just sins. It will be really fun then.b:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Rated_PG - Harshlands
    Rated_PG - Harshlands Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    b:bye and good riddance

    and for all the people who didn't see, go to the lower depths and look for the threads named, warning for GM, and warning for GM 2, by munimtroll.

    my god munim, just because you played for almost 2 years and have spent rl cash on the game (idiot), therefore means you can threaten the gms with your pitiful cry out for help of leaving the game?..Wow one failure left the game...they won't care. Man you Q.Q'd about that 89 sin who killed you because you fail forever, my god, even Frankieraye thought you meant hax, but it was only the fact that you suck at pvp that decided that outcome. Munim...go away, we don't need a failtroll like you =D
    E.D.N.T.H.O.O.E.I.S.B

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Extreme Dex Nuke The Hell Out Of Everybody In Sight Build

    The path I chose is this, terrorizing anyone my daggers touch, sacrificing a pitiful bit of defense for amazingly high hits and crits, watching as everyone I come across hits the floor before they can react to my devastating hits, seeing them vanish in despair knowing they just got nuked. b:cool Yeah if this is wrong I don't want to be right. This is my build and the way I chose, if you don't like it, well gf to you. b:cool

    Sins aren't op'd it's just that you suck ^.^.
    I'm a sin even at 3x I can kill all you oracled 10x noobs >.<
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    is there an ignore funktion on this forum, id like to add two ppl b:victory?
    i like potato
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    b:bye and good riddance

    and for all the people who didn't see, go to the lower depths and look for the threads named, warning for GM, and warning for GM 2, by munimtroll.

    my god munim, just because you played for almost 2 years and have spent rl cash on the game (idiot), therefore means you can threaten the gms with your pitiful cry out for help of leaving the game?..Wow one failure left the game...they won't care. Man you Q.Q'd about that 89 sin who killed you because you fail forever, my god, even Frankieraye thought you meant hax, but it was only the fact that you suck at pvp that decided that outcome. Munim...go away, we don't need a failtroll like you =D
    Don't forget use oracles and hyper stones to make your dreams true.b:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yep sins own all classes that makes you a failure, gf noob, sins own all we are the best, go Q.Q some more.

    thanks for admitting it.
  • TrueJustice - Harshlands
    TrueJustice - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Rated_PG you're doing what all 14-year-old kids do, they start insulting when they know they can't win a discussion.
    Your little war with Mumintroll has nothing to do with topic anymore.
    And you don't make sense, stop posting into wizard forum for our sake.
    We defeated you with facts b:bye

    Assassins are better than most classes in 1v1, we did not talk about TW or group pvp.
    Knowledge is not worth much, if you got no experience. You try to discuss with experienced players which doesn't work, but you're too stubborn to accept it.

    Btw, genie skill to reduce damage taken by 400%????
    100% reduction makes you immune to damage already, then what is 400%, absorb damage and gain hp?
    -_-* do your homework

    Something useful against fishes:
    Get a lvl 100 Zeal/Discipline genie with 71+ lucky points.
    50 magic, rest goes to vitality
    With 195hp and 2x recovery rate on genie, your expel has 27,5 seconds cooldown, after the first usage. Should be enough time to get ready for assassin's second attempt.
  • Rated_PG - Harshlands
    Rated_PG - Harshlands Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Rated_PG you're doing what all 14-year-old kids do, they start insulting when they know they can't win a discussion.
    Your little war with Mumintroll has nothing to do with topic anymore.
    And you don't make sense, stop posting into wizard forum for our sake.
    We defeated you with facts b:bye

    Assassins are better than most classes in 1v1, we did not talk about TW or group pvp.
    Knowledge is not worth much, if you got no experience. You try to discuss with experienced players which doesn't work, but you're too stubborn to accept it.

    Btw, genie skill to reduce damage taken by 400%????
    100% reduction makes you immune to damage already, then what is 400%, absorb damage and gain hp?
    -_-* do your homework

    Something useful against fishes:
    Get a lvl 100 Zeal/Discipline genie with 71+ lucky points.
    50 magic, rest goes to vitality
    With 195hp and 2x recovery rate on genie, your expel has 27,5 seconds cooldown, after the first usage. Should be enough time to get ready for assassin's second attempt.


    here, straight from ecatomb.....again..

    Reduces the damage you take by 400% for 10 seconds

    Aquaflame Armor Level 10
    Genie lvl 83
    SP ? (?)
    Water 4 - Fire 4
    Energy 95
    Stamina 104
    Instant
    Cooldown 60 seconds
    Requisite Class Wizard only

    Combines the powers of Fire and Water into a chaotic shield.
    Reduces the damage you take by 400% for 10 seconds,
    then increases the damage you take by 40% for 10 seconds.

    Dexterity: Every 8 Genie Dexterity points increases the damage reduction by 1%.
    Dexterity: Every 8 Genie Dexterity points reduces the damage increase by 1%.

    wow, a lot of good experience did you, huh?....How about you get it right before you post kiddo. For one, i'm 18, and perfectly mature, some of your "experienced wizards" basically implied that sins can stunlock like bm's...lmao..we cant, in no way shape or form. we have 1 immob skill, 2 stuns, 1 sleep skill and a silence....man that sure is locking you down...how about you take your petty Q.Q war to another site, instead of making the whole wizard community look like pathetic noobs.
    E.D.N.T.H.O.O.E.I.S.B

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Extreme Dex Nuke The Hell Out Of Everybody In Sight Build

    The path I chose is this, terrorizing anyone my daggers touch, sacrificing a pitiful bit of defense for amazingly high hits and crits, watching as everyone I come across hits the floor before they can react to my devastating hits, seeing them vanish in despair knowing they just got nuked. b:cool Yeah if this is wrong I don't want to be right. This is my build and the way I chose, if you don't like it, well gf to you. b:cool

    Sins aren't op'd it's just that you suck ^.^.
    I'm a sin even at 3x I can kill all you oracled 10x noobs >.<
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    here, straight from ecatomb.....again..

    Reduces the damage you take by 400% for 10 seconds

    Aquaflame Armor Level 10
    Genie lvl 83
    SP ? (?)
    Water 4 - Fire 4
    Energy 95
    Stamina 104
    Instant
    Cooldown 60 seconds
    Requisite Class Wizard only

    Combines the powers of Fire and Water into a chaotic shield.
    Reduces the damage you take by 400% for 10 seconds,
    then increases the damage you take by 40% for 10 seconds.

    Dexterity: Every 8 Genie Dexterity points increases the damage reduction by 1%.
    Dexterity: Every 8 Genie Dexterity points reduces the damage increase by 1%.

    wow, a lot of good experience did you, huh?....How about you get it right before you post kiddo. For one, i'm 18, and perfectly mature, some of your "experienced wizards" basically implied that sins can stunlock like bm's...lmao..we cant, in no way shape or form. we have 1 immob skill, 2 stuns, 1 sleep skill and a silence....man that sure is locking you down...how about you take your petty Q.Q war to another site, instead of making the whole wizard community look like pathetic noobs.

    UHHH you are 18? It still doesn't make you mature as we can see in your posts.b:laugh

    Fyi. I'm 35. And played games on computer when you weren't on this world.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    implied that sins can stunlock like bm's...lmao..we cant, in no way shape or form. we have 1 immob skill, 2 stuns, 1 sleep skill and a silence....
    kinda sound like 5 skills, cant you just chain them? you know... like using them in order to disable your opponent? i think i can do that with just 2 skills but idk maybe not coz im just 9
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    here, straight from ecatomb.....again..

    Reduces the damage you take by 400% for 10 seconds

    Aquaflame Armor Level 10
    Genie lvl 83
    SP ? (?)
    Water 4 - Fire 4
    Energy 95
    Stamina 104
    Instant
    Cooldown 60 seconds
    Requisite Class Wizard only

    Combines the powers of Fire and Water into a chaotic shield.
    Reduces the damage you take by 400% for 10 seconds,
    then increases the damage you take by 40% for 10 seconds.

    Dexterity: Every 8 Genie Dexterity points increases the damage reduction by 1%.
    Dexterity: Every 8 Genie Dexterity points reduces the damage increase by 1%.

    wow, a lot of good experience did you, huh?....How about you get it right before you post kiddo. For one, i'm 18, and perfectly mature, some of your "experienced wizards" basically implied that sins can stunlock like bm's...lmao..we cant, in no way shape or form. we have 1 immob skill, 2 stuns, 1 sleep skill and a silence....man that sure is locking you down...how about you take your petty Q.Q war to another site, instead of making the whole wizard community look like pathetic noobs.

    because ecatomb never makes typos.. right? b:surrender

    thats obviously a typo on ecatomb.. If you were smart you would have looked at the Watcher of Earth you would have realized that lvl 1 aquaflame is 11% reduction for the first 10 seconds then 11% more damage taken for the next 10 seconds (not even the 22% @ lvl 1 according to ecatomb, its 11%)

    Next time pick some facts, something as stupid as that makes all your points on this subject invalid since it proves you know nothing about the game. b:bye
  • fulgida
    fulgida Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Right because distance shrink will save us.. look up Shadow Teleport sir.


    Besides.. if for some reason you pulled off Domain in the right timing and got away.. the sin is either gonna shadow teleport to u to continue their stunning/immobilizing spree, or if theyve used all of their available stuns and your not dead they will just go back into stealth to try again when everything of theirs is not in cooldown.

    Ofc our domain will be in cooldown when you decide to attack again..

    So, ok, I am responding here despite my resolution not to...

    You will notice, I hope, that no one ever claimed that distance shrink would end the battle.

    Meanwhile, you should look up shadow teleport yourself. (A fist using assassin would have to switch back to daggers, and your absolute domain will protect you from being stunned long enough that you can use an anti-stun apothecary, or perhaps a different apothecary -- you have several good options here and that means that if you do not always use the same approach you have a good chance of getting the assassin to be using a non-optimal response.)

    If the assassin did everything perfectly, the most he could do, in theory, would be getting off three attacks before you could seal him. And I have never seen an assassin able to get off three attacks in that situation -- people need time to react and use a skill and start attacking again. And if you are not stunned you can run away from him (or fall away if you are flying) which will radically reduce his attack rate.

    Absolute domain will never be an auto-win, but it should be enough to keep headhunt from stealth from being an auto-lose.
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    fulgida wrote: »
    So, ok, I am responding here despite my resolution not to...

    You will notice, I hope, that no one ever claimed that distance shrink would end the battle.

    Meanwhile, you should look up shadow teleport yourself. (A fist using assassin would have to switch back to daggers, and your absolute domain will protect you from being stunned long enough that you can use an anti-stun apothecary, or perhaps a different apothecary -- you have several good options here and that means that if you do not always use the same approach you have a good chance of getting the assassin to be using a non-optimal response.)

    If the assassin did everything perfectly, the most he could do, in theory, would be getting off three attacks before you could seal him. And I have never seen an assassin able to get off three attacks in that situation -- people need time to react and use a skill and start attacking again. And if you are not stunned you can run away from him (or fall away if you are flying) which will radically reduce his attack rate.

    Absolute domain will never be an auto-win, but it should be enough to keep headhunt from stealth from being an auto-lose.

    Answer this. WHY? We need for surviving apothecary and genie? Does it need assassin also? This is very nice example how unbalanced game is. Genie and apothecary should be supportive items NOT be dependable on it for our surviving.
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  • Rated_PG - Harshlands
    Rated_PG - Harshlands Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Answer this. WHY? We need for surviving apothecary and genie? Does it need assassin also? This is very nice example how unbalanced game is. Genie and apothecary should be supportive items NOT be dependable on it for our surviving.

    Answer this, WHY! should wizzies be able to 1 hit? Thsi si also a very good example of how unbalanced the game is. So please, every class has a class theat they can't beat, for wizzies its sins, wah get over it, sins fear barbs/bms, wah we get over it and learn to roflpwn the sht out of them. Barbs/bms fear you, as you fear them in close range. Every class, every person has a class they fear most, but it's a game of trial and error to see what combos work etc. Just because you can't beat one class doesn't mean you should come and flip out on the interwebz, or in your case mumi, beat by an 89 sin in cube and threaten gm's and basically pms all over the place with your nonsense. You all need to chill out and stop whining. They won't take sins away, and they nurfed the triple spark in stealth to kick us out of it, so stop the whining ffs. Wah expel doesn't work on other, my god....learn to beat sins, if you say you can't, wea ll know that you haven't tried hard enough. There's always a way to win, you just have to find it. Plent of people have given you advice, so take it, learn from it, apply it, then when ALL ELSE FAILS!...when you have lost to 200+ different sins, while applying every form of help possible, then...we just know you fail. Or that you are right, and wizzies can't beat sins (but other classes can, lmao)
    /thread


    P.S HEX only has 292 kill count at 100, so he is one of those, fail pvp wizards you speak of?..lol and arma_geddon has 95 I believe, only a 2 digit, and bowlin only has 147 i think on his 92 wiz xD, so as adriot said all of you fail, non epic pkers gtfo the thread!!.
    E.D.N.T.H.O.O.E.I.S.B

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    Extreme Dex Nuke The Hell Out Of Everybody In Sight Build

    The path I chose is this, terrorizing anyone my daggers touch, sacrificing a pitiful bit of defense for amazingly high hits and crits, watching as everyone I come across hits the floor before they can react to my devastating hits, seeing them vanish in despair knowing they just got nuked. b:cool Yeah if this is wrong I don't want to be right. This is my build and the way I chose, if you don't like it, well gf to you. b:cool

    Sins aren't op'd it's just that you suck ^.^.
    I'm a sin even at 3x I can kill all you oracled 10x noobs >.<
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Answer this, WHY! should wizzies be able to 1 hit? Thsi si also a very good example of how unbalanced the game is. So please, every class has a class theat they can't beat, for wizzies its sins, wah get over it, sins fear barbs/bms, wah we get over it and learn to roflpwn the sht out of them. Barbs/bms fear you, as you fear them in close range. Every class, every person has a class they fear most, but it's a game of trial and error to see what combos work etc. Just because you can't beat one class doesn't mean you should come and flip out on the interwebz, or in your case mumi, beat by an 89 sin in cube and threaten gm's and basically pms all over the place with your nonsense. You all need to chill out and stop whining. They won't take sins away, and they nurfed the triple spark in stealth to kick us out of it, so stop the whining ffs. Wah expel doesn't work on other, my god....learn to beat sins, if you say you can't, wea ll know that you haven't tried hard enough. There's always a way to win, you just have to find it. Plent of people have given you advice, so take it, learn from it, apply it, then when ALL ELSE FAILS!...when you have lost to 200+ different sins, while applying every form of help possible, then...we just know you fail. Or that you are right, and wizzies can't beat sins (but other classes can, lmao)
    /thread


    P.S HEX only has 292 kill count at 100, so he is one of those, fail pvp wizards you speak of?..lol and arma_geddon has 95 I believe, only a 2 digit, and bowlin only has 147 i think on his 92 wiz xD, so as adriot said all of you fail, non epic pkers gtfo the thread!!.

    Go play a wiz and tell someone to get over it. You're just happy on the broken class that has no weakness (sins can beat barbs/bm's just fine) and are unhappy to find out that it is not that you are any good, its just the class you are playing. Go whine about whining to someone that cares PLOX.
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  • Rated_PG - Harshlands
    Rated_PG - Harshlands Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Go play a wiz and tell someone to get over it. You're just happy on the broken class that has no weakness (sins can beat barbs/bm's just fine) and are unhappy to find out that it is not that you are any good, its just the class you are playing. Go whine about whining to someone that cares PLOX.

    ermhem! As I said before on harshlands, i'm re-leveling a player of each class to 3x+, to specifically fight their weakness, and sins. Classes I have had at 3x before are Sin, barb, cleric, archer, and psy, all which had no problem facerolling other people, even sins. Now, my main goals of all 8 classes are getting my first ever wiz from 2x-3x on there plus my first ever barb from 2x-3x also, and my veno to 3x. Then I will rpk everyone my lvl, and lol to death, I will ss every sin that is balls enough to try to jump me, and I will faceroll them, even at a low lvl. (btw my wiz is pure mag= fail at low lvl ;)) making it hard, so it's fair. My cam won't work on here it creates way too much lag, even though im laggy to begin with for lack of a good computer :P. I will post pics of me destroying the fish for each class in that class's section. Or maybe i'll just make a huge one under the pvp section to be more accurate. b:victory

    P.S. it isn't the class you idiot, it's the person playing the class. If what you are saying is true then anyone playing a wiz is an epic nuker? nooooo it takes skill. I know epic fail sins, who can't play their class and get facerolled in pvp because they aren't good. IT isn't the class, it's the person, and if you don't see that after all the time you have ever played any game that didnt have automatic 1 shot rings, then you my dear, are a complete idiot.
    E.D.N.T.H.O.O.E.I.S.B

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    Extreme Dex Nuke The Hell Out Of Everybody In Sight Build

    The path I chose is this, terrorizing anyone my daggers touch, sacrificing a pitiful bit of defense for amazingly high hits and crits, watching as everyone I come across hits the floor before they can react to my devastating hits, seeing them vanish in despair knowing they just got nuked. b:cool Yeah if this is wrong I don't want to be right. This is my build and the way I chose, if you don't like it, well gf to you. b:cool

    Sins aren't op'd it's just that you suck ^.^.
    I'm a sin even at 3x I can kill all you oracled 10x noobs >.<
  • Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear
    Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    This is becoming a little too Rated PG-13 for you...
    You should take your red hair and freckles and go home, I think I hear your mom calling.
    The doctor will see you now.
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    ermhem! As I said before on harshlands, i'm re-leveling a player of each class to 3x+, to specifically fight their weakness, and sins. Classes I have had at 3x before are Sin, barb, cleric, archer, and psy, all which had no problem facerolling other people, even sins. Now, my main goals of all 8 classes are getting my first ever wiz from 2x-3x on there plus my first ever barb from 2x-3x also, and my veno to 3x. Then I will rpk everyone my lvl, and lol to death, I will ss every sin that is balls enough to try to jump me, and I will faceroll them, even at a low lvl. (btw my wiz is pure mag= fail at low lvl ;)) making it hard, so it's fair. My cam won't work on here it creates way too much lag, even though im laggy to begin with for lack of a good computer :P. I will post pics of me destroying the fish for each class in that class's section. Or maybe i'll just make a huge one under the pvp section to be more accurate. b:victory

    P.S. it isn't the class you idiot, it's the person playing the class. If what you are saying is true then anyone playing a wiz is an epic nuker? nooooo it takes skill. I know epic fail sins, who can't play their class and get facerolled in pvp because they aren't good. IT isn't the class, it's the person, and if you don't see that after all the time you have ever played any game that didnt have automatic 1 shot rings, then you my dear, are a complete idiot.

    lol so because you have a 3x char u think u know something about eng game balance? You're getting more pathetic by the day.

    edit: There is an imaginary line for balance, you can't say that anything and everything in game is based on the person behind the character. Go try fighting a GM, I somehow doubt you are going to say that is balanced, and now that we've established that it is possible for the skill of a player to not matter.. lets look at sins. The skill of the wizard does not matter. I've explained my reasons before, I've got the experience.. you don't. Until an endgame wizard shares a reliable way to even put up a fight against a sin (much less live long enough to get to sz), sins are OP.
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