DQ Drops NPC-Price Dropped 20%

JollyJaguar - Sanctuary wrote: »

PWE gone crazy. I Dont even see why they would do such a thing other then annoy their customers... do they really think we're gonna keep spending if they mess up our gameplay?
Let's boycott buying zen >_>

*points at siggie* Boycot started, my dear (deer)

And yeah, all the money for my pots, I get it from helping FB runs, from grinding and selling DQ and sometimes, from selling my services as magic tank, I refuse to pay for BH wines on a daily basis, actually, I rarely BH if it is not within an FB.

Economy is broken, and since they are nerfing the DQ sell price by 20%, they might as well decrease the NPC item prices by 20% as well, so buying pots and such won't be even harder than what it is already.

Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It hasnt been as rapid. This would be like taking the past years inflation and squeezing it into 5 minutes. Its the Nuclear warhead of inflation rather then the slow dirty bomb.

At least this would be quick and painless so people can finally move on rather than waste their time here. :P

ValenaHaiko - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It's plain and simple, they just want to make it harder for people to earn in-game money. Especially those lower level players. It's not the Dev either, as Developers are just coding, and they did what has been told to them.

It's the management of PWE, who told them what to do.

It's plain and simple that they are trying to reduce the population of people who don't cash-shop much, or to force them to take up the notch a bit on spending more. Here is the thing, if people have to spend more than $15/month in this game just to survive, you can bet that they will lose customers even faster.

If you read the forums, you can see that people are already hanging by the thread to stay in this game. They mainly stay because there are still friends in here, and if those occasional cash-shopper/non-cash-shopper are being driven away -- you can bet that the cash-shoppers population will also diminish.

We could had copy and pasted your post from/to the Anniversary complaining threads back in September.... down to the ragequit, game will die, etc, etc, etc.

Amainzingly, 9 months later, people are posting exactly the same arguments as 9 months ago.... What are the chances that you are right this time? about the same as the posts 9 months ago were..... imo.

SyMei - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Too bad I'm super-sensitive to alcohol.

It's ok, I don't drink either. Though there were many times where I was playing this game where I could have used a cold one. Now I see why some players played drunk on my server. When you're drunk, you just don't care that someone is messing you over.

Mkay so I didn't feel like reading all these pages <.< I may be bored... but I'm not THAT bored rofl.

This will probably have a really really bad effect on everything being sold from here on out. I didn't need to say it as its already well known, but I did lol.

I can see TT mat prices, OHT mat prices, herbs, and other things going up simply because of this... And lately, while pet training in unicorn forest, that's how i've made money is from the dq's. its been rather nice too. But knowing this just deters me from wanting to grind. But I don't wanna be a TT addict and farm TT like mad... Rebirth is still an option I guess and that's saying anything drops that's actually worth much =/

*Sighs* Too bad they have to do this. I'm like whoever said it first (not sure where I saw it) let's hope the "subject to change" will be this NOT being implemented.

^ PWE management ^

oyamajio wrote: »

LOL, I thought I should have shown them how much I've earned as a merchant, but then what's the point? That will only make them feel jealous, and those who never get there will never believe and just keep pissing you off. For the best case scenario, if it happens to inspire someone, that will only breed more merchants, raising more competitors to make you earn less. Take RoidAbuse's alt thread about his greedy mission to earn 10 billions as an example. Since the day he started his thread, I could see and sense the growing competition and rebellion. Merchanting is not as easy as before. People are getting smarter. It forces me to learn and adapt to the market and competitors faster than ever before, lol

I believe in sharing. My momma always told me that sharing is caring. Competition is good. Good for buyers that is. And to prevent merchants from getting too greedy with what they charge. So I understand your feelings.. Tissue? RoidAbuse...?

I don't know what to make of this whole DQ price reduction. On the one hand, I feel for all those that actually grind DQs to make coins. On the other, I feel the market will sort itself out in the long run to reach an equilibrium.

Also, being rich in game is subjective. The same amount of coins will allow you to buy more in a server with less total coins in circulation than if you were in a server with a lot more coins in circulation.

...I thought maybe i can go away for alittle then rejoin when im in the mood.. but they keep making it more and more unattractive to the average free player.

Louky - Sanctuary wrote: »

I dont know if im the only one who realises this but.....

The first coins to appear ingame were made by selling drops ...... most of the time DQ items

You really think that cash shoppers can get rich if no one buys the gold they are selling ??

where do you think the coin come from ?

- Quests ? ..... hmm I dont think they give enough coins to cover skills, repairs, gear and to purchase gold.

- TT Mats ?...... hmm it is a good way to make coins but even there.... you really need someone with the coins to buy your TT mats

- Merchandising ? ..... Like buying low and selling high... same thing here though. First you need coin to start but the important thing in this case is that you need buyer to sell To.

the problem is not that they're giving more to the cash shopper but in a way, less....
Less cashflow ingame =
Less players that are going to buy gold in game
Less players that are going to buy item from boutique.
In the end, you'll get less gold being bought by cashshoppers because they cant sell it.

awsome way to make gold prices drop b:victoryb:dirty

xxunseenspecxx wrote: »

But the point remains the same. Majority of the playerbase rages and wants to quit if **** keeps going downhill, but in the end they don't quit because they spent so much time and money here that they don't want to go to waste, and they have friends here. The game itself is not keeping people playing, it's the people that are keeping people playing and the guilt of leaving so much effort behind.

You are right to the point, it's about contributing to the community. 1 year of time spent in this game... well... that's a long time.

PWE i've already commented on the reduced DQ idea. For everyone else, let me share my response and add more to it.

kaza23 @ May 4th, 2010, 10:09PM
Alright PWI we know you are a business 1st of all. We understand the goal is to increase profits every quarter. This is your main money maker. Without the base players (non cash shoppers) you won't have the cash shoppers for very long because there will be no to help then with their TW. The pawners of the game will simply have no one to pawn anymore. All the "poor people will leave the game because they no longer can keep up with your many cash shop events. Cash shoppers will not have anyone to sell to I.E. (non cash shoppers). I have bought zen in the past. Enough to pay a whole year and a half subscription to any pay 2 play game out there. Yes most are feeling the economy's crunch and cannot contribute to your profits at this time. If you drop the DQ prices by 20% you will be hurting many players. If this is what you want, there's not much we can do but voice our opinions, but you will be sorry when we the (non cash shoppers) stop playing and any future potential cash shoppers disappear forever. I'm sure I can find many other FREE 2 PLAY games out there. Maybe we'll just all go back to our PS3's and buy our used games and play them online? I'm hoping PWI team will listen to our cries. I urge you to listen very carefully to us. What we want isn't to much to ask. Again we ask you not to drop the DQ prices. If you want to reduce gold prices than reduce the frequency of pack events. Looking forward to your response.


Additional reasons not to nerf DQ prices


We grind for our coins to purchase gold

We grind for our coins to item in cat shops

We Aoe grind for coins for AH items

We grind for our Sage/Demon books (have you seen the prices b:shocked

We grind of tokens

We grind for fashions

Cash shoppers will see a decline in their profits from their cat shops

No one will be able to TW anymore

Pkers will have less action

Everyone will start doing TT again and thus the demand for TT mats will drop

Not everyone at this time can afford the cash shop

Your paying players will spend less buying zen since no one will be able to purchase items in their cat shops

ValenaHaiko - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You are right to the point, it's about contributing to the community. 1 year of time spent in this game... well... that's a long time.

1 year is hard enough to pull away from. Many players, including myself, have been playing since the minute the game became OB. Some spent thousand of RL money on the game. That's a significant investment to just walk away from. It sucks but it's a harsh reality; the PWE management has the players by the collar. Or should I say the wallet.

If the devs are looking to create a coin sink, they need to remove the ten million bank notes from the perfect token best luck. That is the only true thing that threw the economy out of balance, although the chest of coins had a minor effect compared to the ten million bank notes. Now non-cash shoppers have a harder time in this game with nerfed in-game coin income of dq items.

Jennalicious - Sanctuary wrote: »

I understand what you're saying. I've invested countless hours and more real life money than I care to mention into this game. It is hard to walk away from with all the work put it, but you have to know when to cut your losses and walk away.

I did over a year ago b:laugh Now I just jump rooftops in ADC and browse the forums b:cute

200+ unhappy players and counting...