Will Demon Spark be Nerfed?

RRARRRRGGHHH - Sanctuary
RRARRRRGGHHH - Sanctuary Posts: 212 Arc User
edited October 2011 in General Discussion
Ive seen some rumors around the forums that over in the chinese version of this game demon spark/attack speed was going to or was already nerfed. I am just wondering if anyone has any evidence to support these claims...or if anyone has anymore information about this. Since this kind of thing would really mess with many peoples plans it would be nice to know if all these rumors floating around are just rumors, or are based on stuff that actually happened. Im just curious to see if anyone knows more about this b:thanks
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  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I'm hoping its an evil evil lie by some nasty person b:sadb:surrender.
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  • Hitokeri - Heavens Tear
    Hitokeri - Heavens Tear Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    The rumors were true, in the Chinese version the developers did think about changing demon spark with respect to attack speed.

    Two sentences:

    On 4/14: 我们将在近期调整魔爆元技能，将提高攻速降为20%

    Google Translate: We will adjust the magic burst yuan in the near future skills, will enhance the IAS reduced to 20%

    The next day after much outcry over the potential change,

    On 4/15: 收到大家的意见了，对于技能方面不会草率的修改，会权衡实际情况再做出调整.

    Google Translate: Receive your views, and the skills will not be hasty changes, will weigh the situation and then make adjustments


    So as of now, there is no change.
  • skyxiii
    skyxiii Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Quoting from another thread:
    "it's been confirmed the CN servers have had demon sparks attack speed boost removed. it will likely come here soon"
  • oyamajio
    oyamajio Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I guess it's time for my retirement if that happens.
  • ZoanoAce - Lost City
    ZoanoAce - Lost City Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    skyxiii wrote: »
    Quoting from another thread:
    "it's been confirmed the CN servers have had demon sparks attack speed boost removed. it will likely come here soon"
    Hmmmm, and the point to **** the Demon Path over is.....?b:chuckle
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Hitokeri - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The rumors were true, in the Chinese version the developers did think about changing demon spark with respect to attack speed.

    Two sentences:

    On 4/14: 我们将在近期调整魔爆元技能，将提高攻速降为20%

    Google Translate: We will adjust the magic burst yuan in the near future skills, will enhance the IAS reduced to 20%

    The next day after much outcry over the potential change,

    On 4/15: 收到大家的意见了，对于技能方面不会草率的修改，会权衡实际情况再做出调整.

    Google Translate: Receive your views, and the skills will not be hasty changes, will weigh the situation and then make adjustments


    So as of now, there is no change.

    Just as fixing the Flesh Ream for veno pets was done and then removed, I don't expect this to be permanent if they do change it.

    It's most likely that they'll introduce it there and remove it before any changes take place here.
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  • ZoanoAce - Lost City
    ZoanoAce - Lost City Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Just as fixing the Flesh Ream for veno pets was done and then removed, I don't expect this to be permanent if they do change it.

    It's most likely that they'll introduce it there and remove it before any changes take place here.
    For your sake, I hope so xD
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  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    If they do nerf it like a bunch of idiots then we can expect a pack within the next patch containing a demon spark patch for 1 gold. It will give you the proper demon spark bonuses. With a 97% for tokens and 3% chance for a demon spark blessing which lasts 1 week.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    If they do nerf it like a bunch of idiots then we can expect a pack within the next patch containing a demon spark patch for 1 gold. It will give you the proper demon spark bonuses. With a 97% for tokens and 3% chance for a demon spark blessing which lasts 1 week.

    I'm honestly surprised they haven't removed all the ways to earn skills in-game yet.

    It would be such a money maker if you had no choice but to buy tokens or skill packs from the boutique.
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  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    I'm honestly surprised they haven't removed all the ways to earn skills in-game yet.

    It would be such a money maker if you had no choice but to buy tokens or skill packs from the boutique.

    Bad! Bad! Bad Michael, you aren't supposed to give them any kind of ideas they have screwed the game up enough in the name of profit, they don't need any help b:chuckle.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Bad! Bad! Bad Michael, you aren't supposed to give them any kind of ideas they have screwed the game up enough in the name of profit, they don't need any help b:chuckle.

    lol, don't think for a second they haven't had their researchers consider the idea.
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    "WTS> Level 10 IH! Token offers only!"
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I'm sure as soon as they come up with an excuse to remove all the ways other than tokens they will.
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Good thing most of my skills are level 10 already! I'd make a fortune selling them! woooo

    But really... if they did that I'd ragequit... >.>
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Good thing most of my skills are level 10 already! I'd make a fortune selling them! woooo

    But really... if they did that I'd ragequit... >.>

    I was talking about lvl 11 skill books. You don't need any to get them to 10.
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  • samasalao
    samasalao Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I dont understand why they want to nerf demon spark, if they really want to balance demon/sage sparks they should beef up sage spark instead of nerfing demon spark, obviously everybody and their momma will complain if demon spark is nerfed.
  • King_Asmodei - Lost City
    King_Asmodei - Lost City Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    they better not **** us fist bms outta that bonus T.T . and for the love of god ppl quit giving them more ideas for cash. >.>
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  • Dustins_ALT - Harshlands
    Dustins_ALT - Harshlands Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I don't care, who gives a ****.

    ^nuff said
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  • Kinohki - Lost City
    Kinohki - Lost City Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I think the attack rate should cap at 2.5 - 3 attacks per second to begin with. Fist BM's with 4 and 5 attacks per second is just stupid, especially on a high refine fist and a BM stacking dex or crit items can put a serious hurt on something. It really needs to be toned down as not even skill spam can dish out the damage a fist BM can. This is coming from one of the original fist users from when the server started, mind you. Back then everyone said that fists sucked and axes were the best because of AoE's..Yeah..How many BM's don't use fists now..?
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    back then people couldn't get -0.3s interval from gear at mid levels.

    yeah, fist still blows at 8x
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  • Yamiino - Heavens Tear
    Yamiino - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,031 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Then sage will not be sage (damage < support), demon is supposed to be damage > support... now it will be kind of damage = support if they do nerf it :x

    The funny thing is, why is a game nerfing things? Bad research of limitations? :P

    Guess players overused the spark powa, might be why the changes, then all mounts that had 11 m/s will be nerfed to 5 m/s b/c they are too fast 0.0 lol jk
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  • Yindra - Sanctuary
    Yindra - Sanctuary Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Kinohki - Lost City wrote: »
    Yeah..How many BM's don't use fists now..?

    Well, the only (stickied, not limited to PvP) BM "guide" in the BM forum is very much in favor of Axe/Hammer. This essentially rules out fists completely as these have a much higher DEX and much lower STR requirement, which is basically opposite to Axe/Hammer stats.

    Sure, I've only played my BM once, but from reading that "guide" I decided for Axe/Hammer. And I suppose other people will do likewise. I also see melee people that are NOT Barbs carrying what looks much more like axes, hammers and swords, rather than fists (well, I assume they are meleeing with this. Could be mages wanting some weird bonus from these weapons...).
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Yindra - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well, the only (stickied, not limited to PvP) BM "guide" in the BM forum is very much in favor of Axe/Hammer. This essentially rules out fists completely as these have a much higher DEX and much lower STR requirement, which is basically opposite to Axe/Hammer stats.

    In all fairness, that guide was written early last year, before -0.1int fists were widely available (lunar would have taken so long to farm as it was pretty much impossible to chip back then) and before 3 new pieces of other -interval gear (cape, tome and Nirvana pants) were introduced into the game. Now barbs approach 30k hp, fist/claw BMs can easily have 12k hp and 5 aps hell spark is reality. Things have changed.

    BTW, back when that guide was written, +3-+4 gears with a +6 weapon was considered pretty amazing. Now it's just a average meh build.
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  • King_Asmodei - Lost City
    King_Asmodei - Lost City Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    heh i looked at axes wasnt very pleased with accuracy at start then i decided to go fists cause i prefer dps to brute force, tho at early lvls fists kinda suck vs axes hence i picked up axes aroud lvl 78 ish and dont plan to get any higher axe then my calamities cause im getting to the point fists are getting good. i chose fists back in sept 08 when i started the game before these 5 aps were around hell back then lvl 60 was amazing lol
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  • Majesta - Dreamweaver
    Majesta - Dreamweaver Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    now is the time to QQ for me b:sad my precious demon spark, dont take my attack speed away from me b:cry (it's one of the reasons I went demon)
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Don't assume this for PWI unless other wise it is officially announced by the Admin here first in other words rumors,gossip and speculation.That is all it is to this version.
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  • oyamajio
    oyamajio Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    lol.................
  • Bellatriix - Archosaur
    Bellatriix - Archosaur Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ahh, the days when you were laughed at for using fists.. Even when you suggested its build endgame, you got 'LOLNO AXE/HAMMER 4 LAIF'. Now you're laughed at for running around at 95+ without heavily refined Deicide. b:shutup

    This is a stupid attempt to 'balance' out Sages and Demons. I would have accepted a decrease in attacking speed, similar to the nerf to casting, but removing it all together? Idiotic.
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  • RedTiger - Dreamweaver
    RedTiger - Dreamweaver Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Personaly i don't give a damn about any nerfing but u all have to admit there is something wrong with this picture : a BM gets to the boss in nirvana hits a normal attack + tripple spark macro and just tells everyone else (if there is anyone else ) to go get coffe or something for the next 5 min

    Now i am no expert in all the classes of this game but seing something like that u realy start thinking about rolling a bm yourself
    Would be kinda funny actualy eventualy PWI will be full of lvl 100 BM's with interval gear
  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Don't assume this for PWI unless other wise it is officially announced by the Admin here first in other words rumors,gossip and speculation.That is all it is to this version.


    our gm's rarely tell anythign about upcoming patches. they just write when release.
    and yes rumor/gossip but most they do on CN we usually get here too.
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