Endgame foxform veno
Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver
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As a fist bm I was curious to see how much dps a foxform veno could do, and came up with this. It's impossible to achieve but still fun to look at.
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=8910770b20cd0b2f
In PvE an endgame fist BM will win hands down due to infinite demon spark, but due to phoenix, purge, and amp damage this veno build actually WAY outclasses a fist bm for pvp.
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=8910770b20cd0b2f
In PvE an endgame fist BM will win hands down due to infinite demon spark, but due to phoenix, purge, and amp damage this veno build actually WAY outclasses a fist bm for pvp.
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Thats a nice LA/AA mix build. heres the pure HA build veno. its not as good as that build though, but its still possible to achieve it ingame, buffs are sage. http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=c12c6f3d10a98338>.<0
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Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver wrote: »As a fist bm I was curious to see how much dps a foxform veno could do, and came up with this. It's impossible to achieve but still fun to look at.
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=8910770b20cd0b2f
In PvE an endgame fist BM will win hands down due to infinite demon spark, but due to phoenix, purge, and amp damage this veno build actually WAY outclasses a fist bm for pvp.
instead of stone of gaea, better add stone of anc knowledge, coz those r 20vit n 20vit owns 150hp,... (assuming u can get stone of gaea, i guess a load of stone of anc knowledge aint out of reach either,... ;-) (severe cashshopping needed for both though))
n why not the rank gear pataka??? (rank 8 is 200k rep,... but cashshopping can achieve that too,... (thingys for 25 rep are available at 100k each i think,... in shops in archo, so i guess by tokens u d get em even cheaper,... so for 200k rep that d be like 8k of those rep-thingys,... so that meens a week of clicking that quest at that rep-trade-npc,... XD and approx 800mil XD,... ) and i guess for foxvenos its not that bad, if u can get it,...)
but yeah,... extreme cashshoppings needed,... or a year of reselling stuff in archo XD0 -
mmm, for a veno 1 vit is only 12 hp, the stone for 150 takes it by 30hp perI can see what you see not,
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Then you see what cannot be,
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My goal was to find a foxform veno setup that could match or even exceed the dps of an unsparked fist BM. Patakas are AWEFUL for this because they only have an attack speed of 1, whereas everything else is 1.25.
With purge, sage soul degeneration (20% max hp decreased), Sage amp damage (30% extra damage), myriad tail rainbow (chance to decrease phys defense by 100%), and of course a phoenix, I think this build might actually be able to beat a barb in 1v1 using melee attacks.
The problem though of course is it's relying on warsoul +12 2 drakeflame stones. I tried it with a much more realistic TT100 +10 2 garnet gems and the DPS was MUCH worse, so I don't think its worth it.0 -
Why would a veno want to use melee foxform to beat either a barb or any sort of bm in pvp when she can do so with ease as a caster with significantly less fancy gears?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=acdaff8a29f06091
Possible, though it requires heavy use of $$. Just slightly lower phys/mag attack than OP's build (sans 50 attack level of course and warsoul refines since PWcalc doesn't have those). Lower on the -interval/-chan (No G16 cape or second set of TT99 gear that can provide -interval bonus). 1% less crit and lower accuracy/evasion (Less dex due to being Heavy/Robe instead of LA with AA). Less HP/phys def (Only weapon is refined to +10. With +12 refines, this would have greater phys def and only slightly less HP from lack of lunar cape). Higher mdef.
Oh, forgot to check OP's tome when doing this and assumed it was the Love Up and Down we currently have. Guess not. Anyways, Love Up and Down's -interval doesn't show in calc as well as the OP's tome in general having more bonuses. Would use a lunar cape instead of the current one but those stat bonuses don't show on PWcalc, so can't compare to everything we have available right now.
Same buffs as OP except with Demon wings of protection added.instead of stone of gaea, better add stone of anc knowledge, coz those r 20vit n 20vit owns 150hp,... (assuming u can get stone of gaea, i guess a load of stone of anc knowledge aint out of reach either,... ;-) (severe cashshopping needed for both though))
n why not the rank gear pataka??? (rank 8 is 200k rep,... but cashshopping can achieve that too,... (thingys for 25 rep are available at 100k each i think,... in shops in archo, so i guess by tokens u d get em even cheaper,... so for 200k rep that d be like 8k of those rep-thingys,... so that meens a week of clicking that quest at that rep-trade-npc,... XD and approx 800mil XD,... ) and i guess for foxvenos its not that bad, if u can get it,...)
but yeah,... extreme cashshoppings needed,... or a year of reselling stuff in archo XDSneakret - Heavens Tear wrote: »mmm, for a veno 1 vit is only 12 hp, the stone for 150 takes it by 30hp per
But when you consider that the added vit would boost phys/mag defense and (for PvE) the HP recovery speed you'd gain. The Primevals become a better overall choice.0 -
Ok this is a MUCH more realistic version of what I'm going for, and can definitely be achieved in game. The dps is still terrible, but if you can get your weapon to +12 2 drakeflame stones then its really, REALLY good. Just pretend the tome is love up and down and the cape is lunar cape.
Realistic Build
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=2d2995e824dda5b2
Same build +12 2 drakeflames
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=660952507507d29e0 -
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Just a thought, have you considered using a setup like this to increase the -interval and minimize the points needed in magic?
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=dd8ab2d814613dff
Or, if you think the pataka is too much a liability
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=e1eb2b5b066b03a1
I kept the refines a bit lower to keep in line with what I would consider decently feasible; the important part is the use of triple set bonus.
Edit: Ah, scratch that. I didn't look closely enough at your last post. >.<; You already had the same idea.
Edit #2: In hopes of adding something more useful... Maybe a weapon like this?
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=be44876c779248b7[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
So, I heard HA veno is the way to go?0 -
I wish this build was possible, but it exceeds the lvl cap, and most of the EQs (if not all) aren't even in the game yet, that i know of. http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=706170f0f01a19fb (lvl 150 heavy veno)>.<0
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Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary wrote: »I wish this build was possible, but it exceeds the lvl cap, and most of the EQs (if not all) aren't even in the game yet, that i know of. http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=706170f0f01a19fb (lvl 150 heavy veno)
try the level 95 want tyreseus power,... gives 5% more critrate,... and loses you about 2k phys atk,... imo slight improvement,... 20% crits compared to 15% crits will hurt a lot,...
and two times sign of frost chaos, instead of those two rings,... loses a bit of atk, but gains 100% accuracy,... kinda necessary since the accuracy u got atm will make you miss a lot,...0 -
You can do this with AA just use good garnets shards.I was out today at lvl 51 in tusk town lvling up my herc more.I am AA hybrid and was trying out my werefox and my skills are all lvl3.There was another one there as well in LA.
I didn't have garnets i have citrines on.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »You can do this with AA just use good garnets shards.I was out today at lvl 51 in tusk town lvling up my herc more.I am AA hybrid and was trying out my werefox and my skills are all lvl3.There was another one there as well in LA.
I didn't have garnets i have citrines on.
I'm not sure you understand what the attempt is here--they're going for damage per second, melee. Both TT99 LA and HA have set bonuses that make you hit faster, while AA does not.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
So, I heard HA veno is the way to go?0 -
not to mention that with AA you have less accuracy
you dont miss in pve but in pvp is another story...0 -
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I'm thinking of bringing back the foxform veno idea, this is what I've come up with
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=4346fbd7f769fa74
any thoughts on how to make it better?0 -
Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver wrote: »I'm thinking of bringing back the foxform veno idea, this is what I've come up with
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=4346fbd7f769fa74
any thoughts on how to make it better?
Just equip Deicides? Derp. Inbetween all these $50.000 unrealistic builds, maybe it's time someone showed you some real numbers and acceptable gear. Warsoul weapons, +12 sets to make a Fox Veno... yeah right.
Using my sins' uncompleted gear (need to Gold the green lunar armour) to win the Nien Beast Event for Venos give me these stats:
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=4645003e15ce37fd
Since I pretty much use it only for Nien Event, this build gives me 5-6k basic damage per hit, 11-13k when sparked. Topping out at about 55k max crit with HF and all sorts of **** on the boss. Only a small space inbetween the next triple spark, which I can't overcome (not buying more interval gear, Sin can already hit 5/sec when it hits 99)
Average damage log (sparked)
Points when squadding the #2 Veno
Kep in mind this build is just a mock build to **** off the veno that was winning the Nien Event (hf with 3rd place quest stacker), but this is what you would get when you made a Fox Form Veno.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Esuna - Raging Tide wrote: »
do you still want to use a magic weapon and deicide, already posted in other thread
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=218786e1ec70841c
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=9bde06c59a0e69880 -
you used melee mastery, that means you break your weapon every time before event. if you didnt used fox form, just normal atk in human form you would have more dps with lunar sword (same refines/shard) and min points to vit/mag and min equip str and rest dex plus fox form. this way, with deicide, you have about 35% or more dps than sword but just saying... if you want to use a magic weapon around your lvl, magic lunar sword or even tt100 gold sword for atk and dps... its better to use sword. less problems with equiping a weapon around your lvl and less troubles with break/repair
do you still want to use a magic weapon and deicide, already posted in other thread
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=218786e1ec70841c
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=9bde06c59a0e6988
More unrealistic builds that barely anyone can attain.. great...
I don't have to break my claws everytime, as long as you stay logged on it can stay. Also, why the sword? The wand has +2% Crit. It's not like you need more Def in Fox Form.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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except the refines and shards (you can ignore) everything is very possible.
why not wand? ofc you can change the helmet with warsoul for less str requirement but you gain less hp, less str and you get 1% more crit. now you have the stats to equip lunar wand (require more mag than sword) you have less str than before so you have less dps with deicide than before and that 1% more crit doesnt change it. of course you get better magic atk and that 2% more crit is for wand not deicide
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=5daad5f732d97396
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- all items available
- setup work for lv103 with crafted +stat rings...
- 40k pdef and thats not even the max possible...wheeeee~
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=2c5ad70b1009d7d9i am waiting for you my little flagcarriers b:kiss0 -
lol esuna, nice to know the build is just to **** me off.
but i dont even questack nab, arcane venos can get 10k+ easy in event with some
mediocre tt99 and channelgear(33%)+frenzy+atk blessing
yours sincerly, Mara0 -
lol esuna, nice to know the build is just to **** me off.
but i dont even questack nab, arcane venos can get 10k+ easy in event with some
mediocre tt99 and channelgear(33%)+frenzy+atk blessing
yours sincerly, Mara
Hmhm, and right after you ask me and I explain you how the quest stacking works, you proceed to PM Hentai "how i quest stack? que?" Sounds fishy.
Also, 10k+ easily? My screenshots say otherwise for you. Perhaps at times I wasn't present or you had an entire spawn to yourself, but on my watch you're not even hitting 10k. Not even before I went Fox Form;
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according to my recent events im making around
4k points on mobs, which is like 50 mobs with full dmg and aoes while nix soloes mobs.
around 1.5k on first boss and 4.5k on mainboss makes me get an average of 9-11k
ofc the contri varies in every event according to the amount of people on my spot and on the boss additionally to hfing bms.
avg hit on boss 10k and 30k sparked with another 5k per nix hit.
ofc that wont mess with fists but with channelgear arcanes venos can get decent points aswell.
from answers of u and hentai i only know u can take some contri from the quests of a previous events, but since i never tried any quests im still not rly sure how it exactly works. still it doesnt matter anymore since i cant be nr1 anyway so i started pushing a clericfriend of mine so we are both top5. that way i end up with 2k contri less than possible solo, which ur screenshots show pretty good.
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The equips I already have, and added level to add sage melee mastery. Something dont add up completely, as I miss some attack at 91 (lvl 10 melee mastery). Getting gear isnt very easy, and the builds Ive seen in this thread is just way off of what I think is doable without major cash spending. Currently working on getting enough best tokens to get those nifty Tide of Elysium. Just 165 million to go......
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=bc1d6be9162a1e7b
At 99 I plan on getting TT99 chest and bracers at least. Boots iwant to be thhee Tide of elysium ones, but thats not easy to get. Also, for weapon, Ill stay at the lunar one, since I need to have some of the mag stats in str. As for that build, I imagine osmething like this:
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=a06b71069f25f235No I dont have a herc, I AM the herc! b:mischievous
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SmurfJegeren - Dreamweaver wrote: »The equips I already have, and added level to add sage melee mastery. Something dont add up completely, as I miss some attack at 91 (lvl 10 melee mastery). Getting gear isnt very easy, and the builds Ive seen in this thread is just way off of what I think is doable without major cash spending. Currently working on getting enough best tokens to get those nifty Tide of Elysium. Just 165 million to go......
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=bc1d6be9162a1e7b
At 99 I plan on getting TT99 chest and bracers at least. Boots iwant to be thhee Tide of elysium ones, but thats not easy to get. Also, for weapon, Ill stay at the lunar one, since I need to have some of the mag stats in str. As for that build, I imagine osmething like this:
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=a06b71069f25f235
Those builds don't even make it worth going Fox tbh.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I see my name. b:cute
Note to self: Next marriage needs to be to a fist BM. b:dirty[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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i recently tested a foxform glitch which makes it possible to wear fists in foxform.
but its way too much work to do it all the time thou the dmg output turned out to be nice.
maybe ill make a foxform veno with tt100 fists just for the laughs xD.
wondering if the foxformclawusage is able to outdd bms. ill keep you posted how it goes
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=1862523a4cca6a560 -
the ONLY way it might we possible is why having a 0% durability turning foxform and repairs it in foxform.
glitch or no glitch not worth it0
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