Sin's tactics in PvP

even new players have common sense x.x

like hey look tackling slash immobilizes the target, maybe you should use that on kiters?

-_-

Lusca - Sanctuary wrote: »

even new players have common sense x.x

like hey look tackling slash immobilizes the target, maybe you should use that on kiters?

-_-

Everyone has common sense.But just by immobilizing a kiter won't win you a fight.And even new players how would they know a veno is a kiter?Maybe they would just go for the pet instead of the veno?-owned.I don't really care if someone makes a guide,i could probobly do good without one.But im here typing this because newer players need a guide or even those who've been playing PW for a while now.All of you are bashing against me like you want to try and keep someone from making a guide -.-

Some people are here to insult others apparently... (Looks at the two people badgering each other a few posts up.)

In any case, my view on a guide is this: Guides are useful for getting the basic idea of fighting. While I can probably come up with 90% of what's going to be in the guide myself from experimentation and practice, I would be saved much trouble and time if I were to read a guide and find out what works from the get-go. Of course, even then, even with the guide, I'll need to practice, and earn personal experience.

To whoever said that they didn't want to hear personal anecdotes from other players about pvp experiences: Why not? Listening to others relate their own stories increases our knowledge, and increasing our knowledge passively increases our experience.

I hope that this thread grows more into a discussion of skills and timing rather than a discussion of whether guides are useful or not.

By the way, my friend, a lvl 8x wiz got murdered by a 6x 'Sin the other day in a duel because she apparently got her crit buff on before he attacked her. On shotted. O_o

Mizore_P - Sanctuary wrote: »

Everyone has common sense.But just by immobilizing a kiter won't win you a fight.And even new players how would they know a veno is a kiter?Maybe they would just go for the pet instead of the veno?-owned.I don't really care if someone makes a guide,i could probobly do good without one.But im here typing this because newer players need a guide or even those who've been playing PW for a while now.All of you are bashing against me like you want to try and keep someone from making a guide -.-

doesn't take a genus to realize killing a veno is easier than killing a pet then a veno x.x

and of course tackling slash alone won't kill a kiter but look

tackling > deep sting > adv spark > RDS > slipstream > headhunt

that might kill some kiters but it won't kill every kiter you'll come across
and of course you need to start with pretty much full chi

you should re-read what kristoph wrote if you still think you can make a guide, you can have general tips and stuff but they won't all work for every player, there are too many different factors

Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »

You can't write a damn guide, it all depends what you and the other are trying to do, your level, your gear, genies, how much chi you start with, what skills you leveled and so on. Tackling is an epically useless skill if the enemy isn't going to try moving away, but it's probably the best thing you have against anything that's trying to run/kite. Depending on what class you're against you may want to save sleep in case they spark on you or some other spike. Stealth adds even more possibilities.

A guide? Figure it out yourself by experimenting, it's just a game, dying/losing doesn't matter. If your epeen is too sensitive find a friend/sparring partner and duel/fight him a thousand times until you've tried every combination you can think of.

We sins have all the skills that's considered as godly in pvp, you just need to learn to play a squishy **** class that has melee attacks: 5 sec pro damage stun, 3 sec tele stun from 35M, almost 12 sec immobilize skill wtf? b:shocked, Interupt with 70% rate from 35m OP? Sleep the target for 5 sec if your about to die, 100% speed buff and another one with anti combat debuff ( stun/sleep/immobilize ), 400% Damage AoE skill （must be a pro finisher move after charm tick at endgame), 30 m teleport move, Stealth in COMBAT, and a 150 chi move that deals OKAY damage and a pro anti melee skill that reduces their attack speed by 50%. I mean if you know to play and you throw all of these into one pro combo I doubt any class can make it out alive cept cheap **** barbs, but no one cares about them in PvP.

Nagamorph - Harshlands wrote: »

You should use puncture wound before deep sting, the bleed effect deals physical damage and doesnt interrupt the sleep effect.

"Feel free to insult me"
We aren't here to insult people omg I just want to know the best way to deal with other classes!

if u use puncture wound before deep sting a cleric can use his sleep spell

turi wrote: »

Hmm, well, here's my 2 cents.

I'm only level 39 right now but I've had a lot of experience escaping higher level PKers and killing anyone who's tried PKing me who has been roughly my level.

I use Wind Walk or whatever it's called to speed away the second someone attacks me, when I'm far enough away (harder to do against BMs since they have a similar speed boost move), I go stealth and think of what to do from there.

Generally I will lead with Deep Sting, and then go for a Slipstream or something, then Tackling Slash, then perhaps run away and stealth to come back at them again or something.

I do use Puncture Wound a lot, but I'm not a high enough level for it to really matter since the moves I listed will basically take anyone out anyway, Barbs and BMs are much harder than everyone else.

I'm not a pro or anything so yeah, just my 2 cents, and all the Barbs I've had try to PK me have failed since they miss like every attack, no joke.
I'm assuming that will change as I get higher, and the Barbs are higher.

You are a pure?

Omg its simple.

Arcane: Chillofthedeep -> Shadowjump -> tackling slash -> rising dragon strike = kthxbai.

Light: Rip strike -> puncture wound -> deep sting / run away -> sparkburst/wolf emblen -> detenoate ground -> tackling slash -> invis = kthxbai.

Heavy: Knife throw -> rib strike -> puncutre wound -> shadow escape -> "5 seconds later" -> rising dragon strike -> puncutre wound -> deep sting -> sparkburst/wolfemblen = kthxbai (if not repeat step 1, just with windpush)

Kthx.

Lusca - Sanctuary wrote: »

yes lets run away from light armor because everyone who uses light armor is a ranged class and we are a melee class

dam why didn't i think of that >=o

Why not use your brain dumbass, they will be sleep so get distance to spark up and wolf, if that don't go according to plan shadow jump is still there.

What i said is just a simple skillchain to use.

Lusca - Sanctuary wrote: »

why not just spark and wolf WHILE they are asleep?

KEY:
'->' NEXT MOVE.
'/' OPTIONAL MOVE.

Now read my skill chains again, kthx.

your forgetting ur talking to morty hereb:chuckle

I'm sensin' a bit of tension in the camp.

Lusca - Sanctuary wrote: »

combat mode won't end before sleep ends so running to regen hp is pointless and there asleep so your not getting hit regardless of is you run or not

You still regenrate little hp, and that little helps, use your imagination, depending how the fight goes anything will be irelevant so all in all you fail and don't see the point in nothing, l2p.

kthxbai.

Morty - Raging Tide wrote: »

You still regenrate little hp, and that little helps, use your imagination, depending how the fight goes anything will be irelevant so all in all you fail and don't see the point in nothing, l2p.

kthxbai.

hey big shock here but you regen the same hp standing around or buffing yourself that you do running away b:shocked

Morty - Raging Tide wrote: »

Lmao I like how you stick to pointless things because you have no valid comment.
Forget about the ****ing hp regain, depending how the fight turns out (which you don't know) it never hurts to get some distance, even use the other shadow jump that stuns them even, now stfu im done explaining.

>_< How the hell does distance help an assassin in the middle of a fight?