Fear of the psychics

Ballistixz - Heavens Tear wrote: »

wtf? i hear all this yada yada stuff about psys and wizards but ppl still FAILED to compare how freakin awesome/beautiful/nice/purty the psy skills look compared to wizards ugly skillsb:shocked noobs

and what is this about some **** who keeps saying "if we crit" "if a wizard crits" "when a wizard crits" "wizards critting"? dont u full mag arcane wizards have like 1% crit at any given time and lvl?b:surrender

I agree they need to re-do wiz skills, they're too lackluster. I mean it just looks silly when someone dies to a tiny playing card that was set on fire and thrown at them.

And one of our hardest hitting non-ults is to summon a bunch of sand and fling it towards the enemy really hard... b:shocked

wtf

@Giodia

Why are you judging wizzies on the noob ones? It's... either a troll or you're pretty shortsighted. I've met up with psys that won't stop attacking no matter what aggro they steal (just 'cause they can'). I've squadded with archers who've done the same thing (most of them in BH29, so, they ARE still newbs... but some know better and just don't care). BMs that rush the mobs and die, causing a squad wipe... there's noobs in EVERY class, not just wizzies.

Just 'cause you've apparently never squadded with a wizzie that can control their damage output and not steal aggro doesn't mean they don't exist. Personally, I prefer wizzies to archers-- I've had a lot more bad runs with archers. I even prefer BMs to barbs 4/5 of the time, just because I know a BM that pwns. That doesn't mean that all archers suck, or all barbs suck.

And who cares if you 'replace' wizzies? A good wizzie will always be wanted more in a squad than a noob DD of any class. Stop hating a single class and go back to leveling, so that you can be as much of a benefit to your squads as you say you are.

Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Judging the size of their egos... I rather not. Either they are suicide prone or overtook aggro from tanks. I will pick an archer any day over mages. Since we already filled up the need for element damage, physical from archers will be nice.

Not to forget, low level mages are usually too squishy.

Perhaps, you will enlighten me on how 'well' would be do if we paired up with them in a squad? Mages do not have any buffs that will benefit us. Both classes do elemental damage so I really do not understand your statement. Also, my wizard never stolen aggro. If anything, my Psychic steals more aggro than my wiz ever did. As a wizard its easy to control your damage output, but as a psy, everything channels so fast.

Wizard have undine strike which works great with our skills. Add that in with black voodoo and our damage sky rockets.

Ballistixz - Heavens Tear wrote: »

wtf? i hear all this yada yada stuff about psys and wizards but ppl still FAILED to compare how freakin awesome/beautiful/nice/purty the psy skills look compared to wizards ugly skillsb:shocked noobs

and what is this about some **** who keeps saying "if we crit" "if a wizard crits" "when a wizard crits" "wizards critting"? dont u full mag arcane wizards have like 1% crit at any given time and lvl?b:surrender

a level 100 wizard can have anywhere from 12%-20% crit depending on how much they spend

IDaun - Raging Tide wrote: »

@Giodia

Why are you judging wizzies on the noob ones? It's... either a troll or you're pretty shortsighted. I've met up with psys that won't stop attacking no matter what aggro they steal (just 'cause they can'). I've squadded with archers who've done the same thing (most of them in BH29, so, they ARE still newbs... but some know better and just don't care). BMs that rush the mobs and die, causing a squad wipe... there's noobs in EVERY class, not just wizzies.

Just 'cause you've apparently never squadded with a wizzie that can control their damage output and not steal aggro doesn't mean they don't exist. Personally, I prefer wizzies to archers-- I've had a lot more bad runs with archers. I even prefer BMs to barbs 4/5 of the time, just because I know a BM that pwns. That doesn't mean that all archers suck, or all barbs suck.

And who cares if you 'replace' wizzies? A good wizzie will always be wanted more in a squad than a noob DD of any class. Stop hating a single class and go back to leveling, so that you can be as much of a benefit to your squads as you say you are.

<-- I am still leveling. The problem with Ponza is he came in to the Psychics forums, trying to prove to psychics that Mages are in fact the better than Psychics. He is the one who is trolling and licking his own e-peen.

Ponza - Lost City wrote: »

Sure, we don't have a *Buff* that can help you, but we have a *debuff* that reduces the target's earth, water , and fire resists by 60%. And it's also spammable .5 sec casting time 1 sec channel with almost 0 cooldown. Psychics will never reach their full damage potential without a mage debuffing for them.

Without your Undine strike, we can still inflate our own damage. Doesn't need that high damage to snatch aggro from the tank. My damage will always be slightly lower than mages and I have buffs and debuffs to make up for it, making psychics more useful than just a glass cannon.

Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I wish you were on Heaven's Tear...you're one of the few Psychics that actually sees the amazing capabilities that we have together...

...while the others are just trying to inflate their own "E-Peen", both Psychics and Wizards. Because in trying to put us down and call us pathetic and say that we're useless...that's just Stage One in the System of Bully-Grief.

Who cares about partnership when your community has a lvl 20 mage troll (main hiding somewhere) that keeps trolling our forums?

He has been trying hard to make psychics look useless and inflating his own ego.

Seriously, if he is as courteous as you, I wouldn't be shooting him down.

Have you realized that some mages have also went to psychics, claiming their potential?

And seldom is there a need for 2 DDs to be elemental damage due to size of the squad. The direction that squads are heading in, is to get classes that can do more than 1 role. And mages could only do one with 1 buff, 1 heal. Even that heal is use with conjunction with sutra.

Tanking physical mobs is gonna hurt you more than it hurt us.

We can clearly see that on utility, mages have nothing special except to nuke fast which will have some bad results if used on wrong timing, or spamming heals.

Think for a moment, Archers have STA, Venomancers can debuff and pull, Psychics can buff and debuff, and there's nothing else for mages.

I saw mages being useless when the new classes came out, while I was still lvling a mage. I asked what can I bring to the squad as a mage and the answer is pretty clear that psychics will be picked most often as we are not as much as a threat to the tankers.

I have also deliberated on making this psychic for sometime and when I saw the skill tree, I saw what future is coming.

Am I gonna waste gold on charms and miji just to zhen or just grinding because I was unable to get into a squad and live for TW which is something that I do not care about, just to show my how big my epeen is?

With the animosities against archers and mages, what hope do I have as a mage?

Only run instances with friends and guildies? Yup, but it's gonna take lotsa coordination between time zones just for a run. Sooner or later, people are just gonna stop doing that. Being helpful has it's own limit.

Ps. I do not like to ask for help unless truly needed.

Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »

That's why I'm glad I'm in an awesome land-owning Faction. It's about the class; it's the people you play with.

Kona, I know you are from Tao, but the culture there might not be for most people. As a TW guild, there may be lotsa power struggles and whatever drama.

I am not ambitious, just wanna do high-end contents and see it for myself. b:sad

Amouriv - Dreamweaver wrote: »

b:cutecross server marriage FTW?
we can have psychic babies that can also do fire spells....oh wait thats a wizard x.x
my new avi!

lol its like you two were made for each other b:chuckle

Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »

b:cute

Come to Heaven's Tear.

Pwease?

awwwwww look konair is begging how could you resist? b:chuckle

Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »

<-- I am still leveling. The problem with Ponza is he came in to the Psychics forums, trying to prove to psychics that Mages are in fact the better than Psychics. He is the one who is trolling and licking his own e-peen.




Without your Undine strike, we can still inflate our own damage. Doesn't need that high damage to snatch aggro from the tank. My damage will always be slightly lower than mages and I have buffs and debuffs to make up for it, making psychics more useful than just a glass cannon.



Who cares about partnership when your community has a lvl 20 mage troll (main hiding somewhere) that keeps trolling our forums?

He has been trying hard to make psychics look useless and inflating his own ego.

Seriously, if he is as courteous as you, I wouldn't be shooting him down.

Have you realized that some mages have also went to psychics, claiming their potential?

And seldom is there a need for 2 DDs to be elemental damage due to size of the squad. The direction that squads are heading in, is to get classes that can do more than 1 role. And mages could only do one with 1 buff, 1 heal. Even that heal is use with conjunction with sutra.

Tanking physical mobs is gonna hurt you more than it hurt us.

We can clearly see that on utility, mages have nothing special except to nuke fast which will have some bad results if used on wrong timing, or spamming heals.

Think for a moment, Archers have STA, Venomancers can debuff and pull, Psychics can buff and debuff, and there's nothing else for mages.

I saw mages being useless when the new classes came out, while I was still lvling a mage. I asked what can I bring to the squad as a mage and the answer is pretty clear that psychics will be picked most often as we are not as much as a threat to the tankers.

I have also deliberated on making this psychic for sometime and when I saw the skill tree, I saw what future is coming.

Am I gonna waste gold on charms and miji just to zhen or just grinding because I was unable to get into a squad and live for TW which is something that I do not care about, just to show my how big my epeen is?

With the animosities against archers and mages, what hope do I have as a mage?

Only run instances with friends and guildies? Yup, but it's gonna take lotsa coordination between time zones just for a run. Sooner or later, people are just gonna stop doing that. Being helpful has it's own limit.

Ps. I do not like to ask for help unless truly needed.

You say I'm a troll and only want psychics to be useless, yet I've never even said that in my posts. And yet your entire post here is about how useless mages are, and trying to inflate your own ego by saying that psychics will render mages undesired and useless and psychics are the "future". Wow.

If you know how to play your mage, you shouldnt steal aggro at all. My psychic steals aggro more often then my mage did in all of its levels

Okay, I don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet but:

Go to Cash Shop near mini Map and look at the wings.

There are about 7 WINGS specific to TIDEBORNS!!!

As for what some people are wondering what the fish form is for:

It's supposed to make you go EPIC TIMES FASTER in water.

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How do these benefit?

UBER FAST IN WATER!!!

ABILITY TO FLY!!!

And also:

Aren't Tideborns getting alot of Teleport rights?

Upside of transportation:

Get anywhere and everywhere fast.

Downside:

Have to earn it.

Wings (only I've seen) are in Cash Shop.

Teleportation gets old since you need it for EVERYTHING.

Swimming needs character level 9, but where do you go to gain right to it? [If anyone knows, plz PM me]

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Bottom line:

TIDEBORN RACE has better transportation rights than any other race.

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As for the discussion of classes:

Have I seen this (psychic):

Huge magical tank: yes

Need of upgrade to weapon: NO (just update skill)

Heal: NO (atleast not yet I guess)

Money-grabber: NO

Extra spirit points left over: YES

Better armor: Right now I'd say NO [look at my avatar's level]

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Here's something I've learned:

armor-dependent

weapon-not so much

strength: NO (needed for better weapons, but u don't need THAT either, remember?)

Magic: YES (w/ skill upgrades = PWN)

Vitality: YES - there are times when monsters have magical resistance, and you'll need this DEFINATELY to survive!!! (and in general, you'll need good vitality - u get hit alot, anyway)

Dexterity: YES!!! Just like vitality, it'll save ur life-BUT EVEN MORE IMPORTANT!!!

Here's my stat plan (you don't have to do this):

Strength: don't mess with...

Magic: 3 every level

Dexterity: 2 every level

Vitality: MAJOR EXPERIMENTAL STAGE!!! My plan (for me [don't recommend use yet]):
Every 15 levels (or 20, depending on game experience), have vitality at ATLEAST 20 (aka 1-15/20 = 20+ // 16/21-30/40 40+ // etc)

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Once again, this is my FIRST experiment!!! (but its going perfect)

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Bottom line for class: STRENGTH DOES NOT MATTER - VITALITY AND DEXTERITY WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE!!!

MAGIC MOST NEEDED!!!

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Compared to other classes:

(compared to psychic)

Wizard: slower, harder to manage

Cleric: dependent on too many things, way more expensive

Tank classes: slightly more expensive, but faster and easier to use (as progress)

Others: Not much (more combinations of effects than Veno, but not too much) [pwns faster than archer, but also has close-range weakness / archer has better "stay-away" techniques in my opinion]

Assassin: harder to handle than psy, too many skills (really) - more expensive, but better DoT and is Dex-loved (lasts longer since vit loves it too).

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If anyone wants tocreate a guide *cough* feel free to use WHAT I HAVE SO FAR (dont take it serious)

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Tideborns rule XP (winged elves w/ extra beauty)

Amouriv - Dreamweaver wrote: »

i dont know if he is a troll or just naive.

Option 1..do i get a candy?b:chuckle

Amouriv - Dreamweaver wrote: »

no...but you get a sticker

can i haz deh sticker? b:cute b:chuckle

Amouriv - Dreamweaver wrote: »

sure!.....i need new fash. I only have 20 sets QQ

QQmoar i have two b:laugh

_Surreal_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

QQmoar i have two b:laugh

ONLY TWO???? How do you live b:shocked

Amouriv - Dreamweaver wrote: »

ONLY TWO???? How do you live b:shocked

i ask myself the same question b:sad