Fear of the psychics

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  • Ponza - Lost City
    Ponza - Lost City Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    One advice: Try White vodoo.

    Remember 'Daisy and her dendelion' quest that needs you to kill Wolfkins for a heart? I tanked it and soloed it. Psychics have fast channeling spells that will kill mobs faster than a mage.

    Remember all the kiting of mobs pre-30 (pre-39 for mages)? Psychics killed them within 3 shots.

    Time saved from kiting = faster leveling time than a mage, post-zhenning.

    Is this answer clear enough for you?

    Faster channel /= killing faster. Psychics may hit faster but they hit for lower amounts than mages. Mages have gush/pyro/phoenix, all of which cast in 2 seconds, which is the same for most psychic skills.

    Also pre-30 almost all mobs will die before they reach you, whether you be a mage or psychic.
  • Giodia - Heavens Tear
    Giodia - Heavens Tear Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Ponza - Lost City wrote: »
    Those are only useful in 1v1 duels, try going out into world pvp or a mass pk battle and seeing how much soul of retaliation will actually help there. Archers will just auto-shot once to remove the soul then use stunning arrow, mages will undine strike (does negligible earth damage) you to end the retaliation (and also opens you up for sleep + tempest).

    Remember= + 99 def levels for White vodoo APPLIES for both MAGIC and physical. And in case you do not yet understand, Psychic skills scale with Gear damage too.

    In world pvp, you are a sniper because you cannot fight one on one with anyone.

    In TW, you are a support. Try being lone ranger and see how fast you will go down.
  • Giodia - Heavens Tear
    Giodia - Heavens Tear Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Ponza - Lost City wrote: »
    Faster channel /= killing faster. Psychics may hit faster but they hit for lower amounts than mages. Mages have gush/pyro/phoenix, all of which cast in 2 seconds, which is the same for most psychic skills.

    Also pre-30 almost all mobs will die before they reach you, whether you be a mage or psychic.


    oh.. changing topic now , aren't we?

    I will name the mobs you need to kite a little. Remember those pesky archer mobs? Physical with range or posion mobs?

    Remember those Tauroc sentries at Silver pool for your lvl 29 Spiritual cultivation quest?

    How about Torrgins for torrigin pendants too?

    Remember all the gushings and blinking to kite those mobs? Well, Psychics killed them within 3 shots; 1k damage each shot.

    Without Sutra, you are like an archer with a slowest crossbow without -interval gear.

    Whereas, Psychic DPS (yes... dps) are constant and remain constant throughout, unless crit.

    Psychics dmg are called DPS and not DPH.

    thanks for trolling... kkthxbaib:bye
  • Ponza - Lost City
    Ponza - Lost City Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Remember= + 99 def levels for White vodoo APPLIES for both MAGIC and physical. And in case you do not yet understand, Psychic skills scale with Gear damage too.

    In world pvp, you are a sniper because you cannot fight one on one with anyone.

    In TW, you are a support. Try being lone ranger and see how fast you will go down.

    I wonder if you have played a mage to high 9x levels? My 97 mage has over 10k p. def full buffed and 6k hp. We are one of the stronger 1v1 classes endgame, and the best at killing in zerg situations.

    Also, white voodoo is -99 attack level and +66 defense level.
  • Giodia - Heavens Tear
    Giodia - Heavens Tear Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Ponza - Lost City wrote: »
    I wonder if you have played a mage to high 9x levels? My 97 mage has over 10k p. def full buffed and 6k hp. We are one of the stronger 1v1 classes endgame, and the best at killing in zerg situations.

    Also, white voodoo is -99 attack level and +66 defense level.


    I think unless Ecatomb is wrong... http://www.ecatomb.net/pwi/skillpwi.php

    Requisite Cultivation Spiritual Adept
    Increase your Defense Level by 99.
    Reduces your Attack Level by 66.
    Lasts 60 seconds.

    Overwrites Black Voodoo.

    Pdef fully buffed.... that's so amusing. b:chuckle

    Might if I ask do you have a team of specialists buffing you whenever the timer runs out? b:victory

    As for TW, it doesn't matter if you are strongest if your team work is epicz failez. Even then, a well-geared Archer may well take you out with combined effort.

    So what if you are the strongest, can you win a TW alone ? I highly doubt so. Go back whence you come from.

    Psychics are here to stay and in time, we will see if mages are still needed in anything except zhenning and RBing.

    Again, thanks for the trolling. b:bye

    Edit: Perhaps Mages have been left unchecked for too long. This is the reason for the new Classes to Gank and smash your epeen outright in 1 on 1?
  • Ponza - Lost City
    Ponza - Lost City Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I think unless Ecatomb is wrong... http://www.ecatomb.net/pwi/skillpwi.php

    Requisite Cultivation Spiritual Adept
    Increase your Defense Level by 99.
    Reduces your Attack Level by 66.
    Lasts 60 seconds.

    Overwrites Black Voodoo.

    Pdef fully buffed.... that's so amusing. b:chuckle

    Might if I ask do you have a team of specialists buffing you whenever the timer runs out? b:victory

    As for TW, it doesn't matter if you are strongest if your team work is epicz failez. Even then, a well-geared Archer may well take you out with combined effort.

    So what if you are the strongest, can you win a TW alone ? I highly doubt so. Go back whence you come from.

    Psychics are here to stay and in time, we will see if mages are still needed in anything except zhenning and RBing.

    Again, thanks for the trolling. b:bye

    Edit: Perhaps Mages have been left unchecked for too long. This is the reason for the new Classes to Gank and smash your epeen outright in 1 on 1?

    Well imo, it's always better to have firsthand experience with skills instead of reading stuff like ecatomb. Psychic skills are spammable, low to mid damage spells, but how will you do the 15k-20k damage necessary to kill a barb in 7-10 seconds? Mages will still remain the best class for TW defense and killing Heavy armors.

    Also wtf are you getting the idea that I'm trying to win a TW alone? Psychics will be brought to TW for their charm buffs and soul buffs; yeah they'll have killing power, but mages do magical damage better, and archers/assasins do physical damage better.

    You do realize mages have a spammable 1.5 sec skill that costs 0 sparks and increases their damage by 30%? Psychics can do more damage with voodoo but they will also take more damage.
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Alright; that's enough, kids. You're not gonna convince either side otherwise, so Ponza, get back to leveling your wiz, and Gio, go avoid more fishermens' nets. Unless ya wanna end up somewhere on the menu of Red Lobster...

    b:sin
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  • Ponza - Lost City
    Ponza - Lost City Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Alright; that's enough, kids. You're not gonna convince either side otherwise, so Ponza, get back to leveling your wiz, and Gio, go avoid more fishermens' nets. Unless ya wanna end up somewhere on the menu of Red Lobster...

    b:sin

    wtf GTFO. We were having a perfectly good heated argument without you b:angry
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Ponza - Lost City wrote: »
    wtf GTFO. We were having a perfectly good heated argument without you b:angry

    And I'm the nuclear winter come to dispel said heat.

    b:victory
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  • Szol - Harshlands
    Szol - Harshlands Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    psyc get a spell that increases charm cooldown - to get u back to arguing ^^

    so theres not that much of a problem killing charmed ppl....

    besides from that ive been testing around somewhat with skills in duels and have to say that we really got neary all the stuff to handle every single class in this game... we can debuff-lower accuracy-immobilize-dots-bleeds-interrupts-etc etc etc plus most of our dmg skills aint use chi at all ...

    getting the point? its not always about spamming ur two main nukes in pvpb:laugh

    just my 2 cents

    edit; did i forget to mention we got a sutra? ^^
  • Giodia - Heavens Tear
    Giodia - Heavens Tear Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Alright; that's enough, kids. You're not gonna convince either side otherwise, so Ponza, get back to leveling your wiz, and Gio, go avoid more fishermens' nets. Unless ya wanna end up somewhere on the menu of Red Lobster...

    b:sin


    b:laugh I simply enjoyed feeding the troll whom defends his class in a ...PSYCHIC forum ? That is so epicz failz.....b:chuckle

    Anyway, he has mentioned that psychics are brought in for our buff and debuffs, that in actual sense is admitting that this class, has better value in an instance, since most of the time, it's singular target attacks.
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    b:laugh I simply enjoyed feeding the troll whom defends his class in a ...PSYCHIC forum ? That is so epicz failz.....b:chuckle

    Anyway, he has mentioned that psychics are brought in for our buff and debuffs, that in actual sense is admitting that this class, has better value in an instance, since most of the time, it's singular target attacks.

    Oh, nah. He's totally right. You guys got nothin' on us Wizards...'specially Sage BIDS...gotta love that Sage BIDS...

    b:dirty

    ...and how many Sage/Demon skills do you have...?

    *gasp* Oh, I'm sorry...!

    b:thanks

    Oh, and since you fed the troll, you automatically lose the argument. Forum rules.
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  • Zeilos - Lost City
    Zeilos - Lost City Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Srry dude

    psys-1
    wiz -o (goose egg)
    im keeping score btches
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Zeilos - Lost City wrote: »
    Srry dude

    psys-1
    wiz -o (goose egg)
    im keeping score btches

    You only have 12 Posts. You don't count.

    In fact, all you Psychics don't count on this Psychic Forum. You must SPAM MOAR.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You only have 12 Posts. You don't count.

    In fact, all you Psychics don't count on this Psychic Forum. You must SPAM MOAR.

    GTFO Konari b:bye














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  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    GTFO Konari b:bye














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    See that? That glorious OVER 6000!! *crushes scouter* post count? That's how you spam.

    b:heart ya Rose.
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  • Zeilos - Lost City
    Zeilos - Lost City Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    srry we dont need butt hurt troll mages here , Rose can stay of course :>


    EDIT: out of troll food ><
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Zeilos - Lost City wrote: »
    srry we dont need butt hurt troll mages here , Rose can stay of course :>

    Troll Successful, then.

    b:victory
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  • Giodia - Heavens Tear
    Giodia - Heavens Tear Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Oh, nah. He's totally right. You guys got nothin' on us Wizards...'specially Sage BIDS...gotta love that Sage BIDS...

    b:dirty

    ...and how many Sage/Demon skills do you have...?

    *gasp* Oh, I'm sorry...!

    b:thanks

    Oh, and since you fed the troll, you automatically lose the argument. Forum rules.

    Here trolly trolly trolly....

    We are a unfinished class, so sage or demon is not implemented yet and no one will know when it will arrive.

    That being said, I know the power of DD classes (wiz, Archers, and now testing psychic). But it's pretty pointless to compare since psychics aren't done yet and our highest skills require..lvl 59? b:chuckle

    Also, if mages are so strong as in unshakeable in faith, I wouldn't see other mages playing psychics, hailing it as the next best thing after bread.

    I would urge you to try lvling a psychic, to see how it is to lvl one up and compare the **** you and I went through before wotp....but then again, I know you never will..... b:chuckle
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Here trolly trolly trolly....

    We are a unfinished class, so sage or demon is not implemented yet and no one will know when it will arrive.

    That being said, I know the power of DD classes (wiz, Archers, and now testing psychic). But it's pretty pointless to compare since psychics aren't done yet and our highest skills require..lvl 59? b:chuckle

    Also, if mages are so strong as in unshakeable in faith, I wouldn't see other mages playing psychics, hailing it as the next best thing after bread.

    I would urge you to try lvling a psychic, to see how it is to lvl one up and compare the **** you and I went through before wotp....but then again, I know you never will..... b:chuckle

    Again, Troll Successful. I've tried out the Psychic and found it to be amazingly refeshing. It feels like I'm reliving my old days from when I started my Wizard...I love it. Now I'll have two amazing DD's for different scenarios.

    Also, if you'd pay a tad more attention, you'd realize I don't have any true malice toward Psychics...I'd much rather be teamed up with them than with any other class. With their Buffs, Debuffs, and Power...combined with my raw DD'ing power, and Undine...we'll be unstoppable.
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  • Giodia - Heavens Tear
    Giodia - Heavens Tear Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Again, Troll Successful. I've tried out the Psychic and found it to be amazingly refeshing. It feels like I'm reliving my old days from when I started my Wizard...I love it. Now I'll have two amazing DD's for different scenarios.

    Also, if you'd pay a tad more attention, you'd realize I don't have any true malice toward Psychics...I'd much rather be teamed up with them than with any other class. With their Buffs, Debuffs, and Power...combined with my raw DD'ing power, and Undine...we'll be unstoppable.


    I knew you are 'friendly' to psychics and I'm of course, enjoying the trolling of 'pwnza'....
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I knew you are 'friendly' to psychics and I'm of course, enjoying the trolling of 'pwnza'....

    O

    ಠ_ಠೊ

    ...EYE C WUT U DEED THAR.

    b:avoid
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  • Ponza - Lost City
    Ponza - Lost City Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I knew you are 'friendly' to psychics and I'm of course, enjoying the trolling of 'pwnza'....

    I like to stick to what the topic of this thread was about...

    Anyway psychics vs wizard might be a stalemate, since most wizards will have 10-15k earth defense with rock shield, which limits psychics to basically half of their spell arsenal. And although they have higher dps than psychics, wizards probably won't get through a 7 second charm and doing only 34% of their potential damage. So who would win in a 1v1 fight is pointless to argue.
  • Giodia - Heavens Tear
    Giodia - Heavens Tear Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Ponza - Lost City wrote: »
    I like to stick to what the topic of this thread was about...

    Anyway psychics vs wizard might be a stalemate, since most wizards will have 10-15k earth defense with rock shield, which limits psychics to basically half of their spell arsenal. And although they have higher dps than psychics, wizards probably won't get through a 7 second charm and doing only 34% of their potential damage. So who would win in a 1v1 fight is pointless to argue.

    Wow..15k earth resistance.... but psychic have water element spells too. so are you going to buff water or earth barrier? So i can know what spells to hit you with. Wizards do not do DPS as stated earlier... so... it's pointless.

    For instance wise, we have buffs and we can do DPS...coz we have stable cast time and stable damage... so we will get pick most often with another archer for STA. b:chuckle

    And Wizards are only good at one thing, dealing lotsa damage and hope the target dies. Duel-wise, wizards are not able to kite as much, so... they will lose most of the time anyway.

    The only time when they shine are TW and Zhen and RB. b:laugh
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Wow..15k earth resistance.... but psychic have water element spells too. so are you going to buff water or earth barrier? So i can know what spells to hit you with. Wizards do not do DPS as stated earlier... so... it's pointless.

    For instance wise, we have buffs and we can do DPS...coz we have stable cast time and stable damage... so we will get pick most often with another archer for STA. b:chuckle

    And Wizards are only good at one thing, dealing lotsa damage and hope the target dies. Duel-wise, wizards are not able to kite as much, so... they will lose most of the time anyway.

    The only time when they shine are TW and Zhen and RB. b:laugh

    In other words: ...anything that matters. Got'cha.
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  • Giodia - Heavens Tear
    Giodia - Heavens Tear Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    In other words: ...anything that matters. Got'cha.


    TW... we dun care and lotsa guilds doesn't even bother with it?

    Zhenning are like oracles.. you afk after putting DB in place... big deal?

    RB.. no one dies without RBs..... b:bye
  • _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear
    _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,458 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    In other words: ...anything that matters. Got'cha.

    ...EYE C WUT U DEED THAR...b:chuckle anyone seen Avatar b:question
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  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    TW... we dun care and lotsa guilds doesn't even bother with it? It's 'cause you're not in Tao or Enrage.

    Zhenning are like oracles.. you afk after putting DB in place... big deal? It's 'cause you're not in Tao or Enrage.

    RB.. no one dies without RBs..... b:bye It's 'cause you're not in Tao or Enrage.

    Me...I'm in Tao and Enrage. Havin' fun playin' casual-style and doin' what I'm best at...Blade Tempest...lotsa Blade Tempest.
    _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ...EYE C WUT U DEED THAR...b:chuckle

    ...it's not the same without Epic-Lame-Sauce-Face...

    b:sad
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  • Ponza - Lost City
    Ponza - Lost City Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Wow..15k earth resistance.... but psychic have water element spells too. so are you going to buff water or earth barrier? So i can know what spells to hit you with. Wizards do not do DPS as stated earlier... so... it's pointless.

    For instance wise, we have buffs and we can do DPS...coz we have stable cast time and stable damage... so we will get pick most often with another archer for STA. b:chuckle

    And Wizards are only good at one thing, dealing lotsa damage and hope the target dies. Duel-wise, wizards are not able to kite as much, so... they will lose most of the time anyway.

    The only time when they shine are TW and Zhen and RB. b:laugh

    Sweet, you're going to try to hit me with your 3 water nukes, 2 of which are 3 second cast. While wiz will be able to choose gush-pyro 2sec spam or drop a bladetempest when they feel like ending the fight after awhile...

    Also, gush-pyro-phoenix-pitfall is some of the most stable dps you will ever get from a dps class. All 4 spells cast in under 2 seconds with channel gear, and we can choose to use our sparks for sutra or sage sparking. Archers have a chance of pulling aggro if they get a long string of crits.

    And mages are more versatile than you think. We make the best magic tanks. I've tanked both Linus and Brigand in FB79 at the same time, with only ironheart spam. Try that with your voodoo spell and see how well you can hold aggro from BM's, archers, etc.
  • _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear
    _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,458 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Me...I'm in Tao and Enrage. Havin' fun playin' casual-style and doin' what I'm best at...Blade Tempest...lotsa Blade Tempest.



    ...it's not the same without Epic-Lame-Sauce-Face...

    b:sad

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