Any news on gold price balancing?

oh, my point was current packs WOULD have kept the prices high but uh, since the anni packs been out real long and pretty much everyone is decked out, for cash shoppers, the new packs frankly do not shine as much.

well gold price i think will never go down even if the packs is off pack gold
was 400k each when packs came and now there is new box/packs and its
price jumped to 550k/gold when its out it wont go down ppl will keep
increasing its price . at 1st time i played the game each gold was 200k~210k
u could buy almost 3 gold at price of 1 gold at those days

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

i dont know about that...oracle noobs are oracle noobing everyday...as my flow of oracle-generated coin suggests...and they'll need gear for their oracle noobed high levels :O

you forgot rebirth noobed...

Whiite - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Charms, legendary pets, things from the Cash Shop is a luxury, not a need. You don't need those things to play this game.

I myself have bought nothing from the Cash Shop and leveled easily through my levels.

No Charms? Use pots or apoth. Nobody is forcing you to do TT, or TW or RB or anything that needs charms.

No Legendary pets? Use normal pets, duh?

Be satisfied that you are able to legally buy Gold using in-game currency. No other MMORPG I've heard or played lets you do that.

Rubbish,you havent played many then.

I played a lot in my time,and every single one either allowed the trading of the currency bought with rl money or every single one of the cash shop items to be traded.

Thats a falsehood people need to stop spreading around here,pw arent benevolent masters who treat us fairly by being the only company allowing us to buy their cash shop currency ingame for ingame coins,they all do it in one way or another...and not because they're being nice but because it drums them up more business

mUHAHAH I just checked AH gold with new packs

selling at 740k max

buying 612k max

and almost no gold in sale < so it will raise i bet

< thx GMs and new packs what surprise

Nastassiya - Sanctuary wrote: »

It is still at a in 540k min selling price. Warsoul armor means it will go up a tad bit I bet..

in lost its much more QQQ now all cashshopers will run with warsoul
how cute , ppl only will quit more now

The prices of gold ingame is just a question for supply and demand, and I mean both demand for gold of those who not buy it for cash adn the demand for ingame money of those buying gold.

The only way to affect the prices ingame is to make changes that afects supply and demand of gold one one side and ingame cash on the other.

Increasing supply of gold could be done by lowering the real price or prices of items.

You could also affect deamnd of ingame cash by making more really usefull stuff for highlevel players that cost ingame money making the demand of ingame cash among highlevel players higher.

You can also affect the supply of ingame cash. Basicly cutting cashflow of ingame cash to players. Making repairs cost more, making monsters drop less gold, basicly making it harder to get a lot of money ingame.

Basicly any change that afects demand and supply of gold or demand for it and the same for ingame cash.

But one thing u can t do is affect it any other way since it s the supply and demand of players that sets the prices and not the GMs or devs.

1st other games do LEGALLY allow you to sell RL purchased game currency for in game coin between players. Stop spreading rumors about something you know nothing about. Everyone loves to jump on that band wagon because it sounds like it should be true. Fact: 73% of all statistics are made up.

2nd no other MMORPG game that I can think of allows the sale of intellectual property. This doesn't mean currency. This is in the ToS and refers to someone selling another player a Lunar weapon on eBay for example. PWI is the only entity authorized to make RL money on their game. This also would include if you tried to sell Player XYZ 20 zhen for $5 in RL. This is also illegal. This is not however what is happening in the auction house. There are some virtual life games out there that do allow you to create things in game and sell them. For instance you could design a house, a car, offer services, etc in game and other players pay you with in game currency (that they've bought with RL money) that you can then cash out. This is a different genre of game and not applicable here.

3rd I think the topic of this thread has not been addressed yet in an official manner. I seem to recall when gold prices got way out of hand originally and prices rose to 250 per gold (can you imagine how bad it was then.......b:chuckle) that the GMs came on to address the issue and said that the price of gold in game was a major concern for PWI and they do a lot of research and spend time monitoring it and analyzing it so they can adjust and control it. Well since that statement has been issued I have only seen the gold prices rise and do so quite dramatically. I'd like a GM to respond whether a) they still monitor and care about the gold prices and prove it by b) sharing with us their action plan to get it under control. It has been quite a few months since this was originally brought up and we've heard nothing about it since. At least nothing substantial in any way

Lastly, inb4dalock - lol - It seems that every thread I post on has been closed by Spoons. It just seems inevitable that it will happen here. Methinks Spoons is Rumble hunting. (just kidding Spoons. I know its not personal)

Sidious - Harshlands wrote: »

So where is the news on how this was supposed to be balanced out? I am lazy so I won't find the post but we were told something was going to be done. I sure hoping shoveling out more "Events" to buy gold wasn't the answer.

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=365942

As for if he was saying the thruth or not, it's your's to decide. Bu seeing what happened since then....

With major TW factions giving millions per active pvp member that takes part in TW adds a massive influx of coin per week. Crazy Stone and the few other merchant used methods don't drain the coin from the system nearly fast enough. They are the ones who buy a LOT of gold for their packs for godly items. They will pay their TW earned items for gold to buy packs. Gold selling is always slightly above the buy price.

Again, more gold to be spent means sellers raise their price. More people want that pack with an awesome item then the price goes up. It's only natural.

Rumble - Harshlands wrote: »

1st other games do LEGALLY allow you to sell RL purchased game currency for in game coin between players. Stop spreading rumors about something you know nothing about. Everyone loves to jump on that band wagon because it sounds like it should be true. Fact: 73% of all statistics are made up.

Kinda ironic that your "fact" is in itself a statistic, therefore, it has a 73% chance of being wrong under its own assumption. Also, a vast majority of all statistics is never in public, but in archives done in statistic mathematics projects, therefore claiming that a percent of them are made up is highly inaccurate, since the true number of valid statistic analyses is unknown.

3rd I think the topic of this thread has not been addressed yet in an official manner. I seem to recall when gold prices got way out of hand originally and prices rose to 250 per gold (can you imagine how bad it was then.......b:chuckle) that the GMs came on to address the issue and said that the price of gold in game was a major concern for PWI and they do a lot of research and spend time monitoring it and analyzing it so they can adjust and control it. Well since that statement has been issued I have only seen the gold prices rise and do so quite dramatically. I'd like a GM to respond whether a) they still monitor and care about the gold prices and prove it by b) sharing with us their action plan to get it under control. It has been quite a few months since this was originally brought up and we've heard nothing about it since. At least nothing substantial in any way

Actually, if you think of it, the "monitoring" of gold prices is effective. Granted, certain items are now overpriced. However, if we were to use those more common items as a standard for the gold:coin ratio, all of the rarer stuff, such as Lunars, Frost gear and the like would be ridiculously cheap in comparison to the amount of gold spent on average to get one. And then you would end up with people complaining even more, since "everyone" could just buy them because they are too cheap.

Nastassiya - Sanctuary wrote: »

With major TW factions giving millions per active pvp member that takes part in TW adds a massive influx of coin per week. Crazy Stone and the few other merchant used methods don't drain the coin from the system nearly fast enough. They are the ones who buy a LOT of gold for their packs for godly items. They will pay their TW earned items for gold to buy packs. Gold selling is always slightly above the buy price.

Oh come on. TWs have costs as well. Let's say the top faction makes 600 millions a week. For this to be true, they would need to own the whole map. Now, there are 200 people in the faction. Assuming that the distribution is even, that means 3,000,000 coins per member. Now then, currently, charms are somewhere around 1,000,000 coins each, and we can safely say that all of these players use charms in TW. Now, you would have to assume that these players do nothing but TW for them to come up with profit from those 3,000,000 coins. Also, this still assumes that they own all of the land on the server. Currently, the server closest to this is Sanctuary.

Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The thing is, 100k WAS that happy medium you mentioned. -_- But then other elements were introduced forcing certain lower limits - most notably, Chests of Coins which created a virtual floor on gold prices at around 190k.

100k was the happy medium for those items. Now that we have various packs, the standard has risen to compensate for the awesomeness that is Lunar and Frost gear. In the Jolly Jones events, that awesomeness was event food, oracles and the gems, all of which were above the general value of gold at the time.

In the end, the rise of the gold prices is just shifting from one standard of pricing to another. As soon as we lose the awesome items like high-end gems and gear, the prices will have to shift to a lower medium. So it's just a question of when and whether we ever get a situation where there is no way to get awesome stuff with Gold.

Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Which is exactly the problem. Either we need such things removed and take a LONG break from them... or everything else (e.g. storage extensions, charms, mats, refining aids) needs to be drastically reduced in price to compensate (for instance, a Safe Stone is 2 gold... if it were 40 silver instead, the exchange rate to coin would be the same for 500k/gold pricing).

Well, PWI used the excuse of the anniversary to, for the first time in its lifespan, put those awesome items in. However, due to popularity, they decided to put such items in much less significant events, such as the Black Friday.

Your second suggestion has a loophole: It would allow for cash shoppers to have those storages for almost free of charge. I can identify three different types of items buyable with gold:

1. The Awesome Items
The rarest items in the packs, that push the gold:coin ratio to ridiculousness.

2. The Daily Cash Shop Items
Charms, Guardian Angels and the like. Things that are used very often and are really popular. Due to 1., these items have gone up in price, but are kept in some kind of a bay due to the popularity.

3. The Unpopular Stuff
Everything that is not 1. or 2., basically. Includes stuff like fashion, mounts and storage. Things that are only bought once. For example, buying any of the permanent mounts from Cash Shop is just about guaranteed to be more expensive than buying it with coin from a player. You pretty much see no one selling storage items, and if they do, the prices are ridiculous.

By removing 1., it would bring back the items in the 3. group. However, by removing 1., they also reduce their income and make the big cash shoppers, who are now used to getting just about everything with cash, will be angered or disappointed, especially if they cut it in the middle of their upgrading process.