what is the class with the highest dmg

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  • TheGodOfVVar - Sanctuary
    TheGodOfVVar - Sanctuary Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    you forgot the ban hamster!
    b:angry
    ham.jpg

    <- pwned. b:surrender
  • drmarley
    drmarley Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Umm, I think you definitely have Wizard and Archer reversed. Wizards have higher spike damage in shorter fights but archers for sure deal the most damage during prolonged fights. Lots of crits over a short period of time with an extremely fast attack rate and special attributes (Gloom/Unrelenting) definitely give archers the highest DPS at any point in the game IMO.

    This isn't even including skills like sharpened tooth arrow. Archers most definitely are the best DDs in the game.
  • drmarley
    drmarley Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    XxArchmagexX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Wizzard = High numbers
    Archer = High Crit rate

    But phisical attack has VERY NOTICABLE DISADVANTAGE phisical damage dealers can get a crit.........BUT ALSO THEY CAN GET A MISS.

    Wizzards never get a miss, we always make damage (unless there is a mob with elemental inmunity, but I have only seen 1 in the game, its Kun Kun and he is quite easy anyway, he des not even attack).
    Do you have any idea how much accuracy archers have? It's rare that they miss, and their attack rate is so much higher than a wizards cast rate that it more than makes up for any misses.

    Wizards will give you big numbers, but archers will deal more damage over time.
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    drmarley wrote: »
    Umm, I think you definitely have Wizard and Archer reversed. Wizards have higher spike damage in shorter fights but archers for sure deal the most damage during prolonged fights. Lots of crits over a short period of time with an extremely fast attack rate and special attributes (Gloom/Unrelenting) definitely give archers the highest DPS at any point in the game IMO.

    This isn't even including skills like sharpened tooth arrow. Archers most definitely are the best DDs in the game.

    after lvl 90, i dont think this is true..
  • drmarley
    drmarley Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    after lvl 90, i dont think this is true..
    Miss_Tika - Lost City wrote: »
    Archers out DPS Wizards in PvE (even without Sharptooth)

    Can't really argue it.

    Maybe if Wizards put on ALLL channeling gear (rings, belt, neck, etc) then just maybe they can out dps an archer. I dont know though :3

    Edit: oh Kris just said that xD
    Lets ignore the fact that archers can stack up on -int and crit gears also in that hypothetical last situation. That's coming from a 100 wiz. I have an 85 archer and 80 Cleric. A good friend of mine has a 100 wiz and my wife has a 90 archer. Even he will admit that archers easily are the better DDs in extended fights.

    If the OP is asking about spike damage then it's Wiz easily followed by barb (Armageddon) and Cleric (Tempest/WT) IMO.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    uses hamster logic to cancel that call.


    this be a discussion talking about classes in general.
    xD


    he should be his own category.

    he's even got his own class specific skill.
    The LLama E-Peen buff. (A passive buff which Gains it's user a certain % of gold prices in magic attack)
    b:shocked

    okie back on topic.
    um highest damage? heck nearly any class could be considered.
    such as barb's perdition/Armageddon thingy. (me hear that hurts like heck if the barb has a boatload of life and stuff.)
    veno's nix. (hurts like heck too)
    wizards ulti (BT/BIDS)
    archer's.....regular shot b:chuckle lols and their other moves.
    cleric's tempest...(okie mayhaps clerics can't be considered the HIGHEST but still hurts and does pretty good damage.)
    BM (heaven's flame thingy might not be direct highest damage but still does insane amplify for the hits after)
    +1
    Haiz - Lost City wrote: »
    2009-11-0821-26-20.jpg

    I win this thread, k?

    Haiz wins! when you getting your TT100 Haiz?

    Wizards DO NOT do spike damage(unless crit or sutra). Wizards deal constant damage over time. Archers do spike damage.

    Crit = spike

    In the end, wizards is the class with the highest damage. We have MORE than 1 skill that can **** you over

    Also, we can take on classes higher level than us with proper gear. Dont believe me? Ask the 9x+ on Dreamweaver that like to gank me b:surrender
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Azura - Lost City
    Azura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    dsgfghjghfgfgfh

    Actually, don't post in this thread if you don't agree with WaffleChan cause he will say your argument is invalid or you haven't asnwered the question.
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  • Miss_Tika - Lost City
    Miss_Tika - Lost City Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Rebirth doesn't count Haiz <_<
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Azura - Lost City wrote: »
    Actually, don't post in this thread if you don't agree with WaffleChan cause he will say your argument is invalid or you haven't asnwered the question.
    wrong :P, mizuoni hasnt really added any kind of relevant information to the posts. we've debated, and had people on both sides, and as much as hed like to think hes in on the argument, hes more like a cheerleader than a debator.

    telling people +1 or complimenting their 'arguments,' or saying 'wiz can do this if theyre lucky' after people ask him to explain how, isnt arguing :).
    Wizards DO NOT do spike damage
    wiz = about damage per hit = spikes.
    >_>;

    archers and other melee classes deal a 'constant over time' AKA damage per second.
    their crits = spikes as well, but that does not mean they deal entirely in spikes.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Azura - Lost City wrote: »
    Actually, don't post in this thread if you don't agree with WaffleChan cause he will say your argument is invalid or you haven't asnwered the question.

    Someone was asking about using 3 ults in sutra, and thats the questioned I answered. Wafflechan doesnt like me apparently, s/he is doing to same thing in the wizard forums
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    wrong :P, mizuoni hasnt really added any kind of relevant information to the posts. we've debated, and had people on both sides, and as much as hed like to think hes in on the argument, hes more like a cheerleader than a debator.

    telling people +1 or complimenting their 'arguments,' or saying 'wiz can do this if theyre lucky' after people ask him to explain how, isnt arguing :).

    I never joined the argument, im just pointing out certain parts. +1 to Haiz screenshot because it was awesome, and i add +1 to other things because im too lazy to retype the same thing someone said previously. Then you would probably complain that im copying what someone else put.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=5489742&postcount=72
    you also need to make up your mind about wizards being spike/dps, i really think you dont understand what each term means.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=5489742&postcount=72
    you also need to make up your mind about wizards being spike/dps, i really think you dont understand what each term means.

    b:sweat
    in me opinion me think wizards are better at spike (when they have sparks and use sutra)
    and at DPH (damage per hour over a frigging long time)
    b:chuckle
    also we get more extra damage from debuffs (excluding physical only debuffs hmm....well BT is physical too so mayhaps it counts) such as the BM dragon debuff. (we can just time it with a ulti or something then cast something right after it hits.)
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    wrong :P, mizuoni hasnt really added any kind of relevant information to the posts. we've debated, and had people on both sides, and as much as hed like to think hes in on the argument, hes more like a cheerleader than a debator.

    telling people +1 or complimenting their 'arguments,' or saying 'wiz can do this if theyre lucky' after people ask him to explain how, isnt arguing :).


    wiz = about damage per hit = spikes.
    >_>;

    archers and other melee classes deal a 'constant over time' AKA damage per second.
    their crits = spikes as well, but that does not mean they deal entirely in spikes.
    read the other one before you surmise my intentions
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    b:sweat
    in me opinion me think wizards are better at spike (when they have sparks and use sutra)
    and at DPH (damage per hour over a frigging long time)
    b:chuckle
    also we get more extra damage from debuffs (excluding physical only debuffs hmm....well BT is physical too so mayhaps it counts) such as the BM dragon debuff. (we can just time it with a ulti or something then cast something right after it hits.)

    DPH= damage per hit
    >.>
    <.<
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    read the other one before you surmise my intentions


    DPH= damage per hit
    >.>
    <.<

    >.>
    <.<
    note how me used it in a different reference and stated it as such??
    (O.o)'
    but then again yesh archer vs wizard damage over a long time could be debatable.
    (>.<)
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    eh, when it comes to these forums, 9 times out of 10 its an empty, one sided debate; whereas one side has good points, and the other thinks making stuff up is a good counter. then all the trolls +1 the troll in the argument, and it gets nowhere!

    of my time here:
    archers - most analytical on these boards, just look at all the math on their forum

    venos - best debators, they tend to be the opposite of the archers, and are better with words rather than numbers. (just look at the huge debates on veno boards >_> so much thread jacking.)

    wizards - tend to be the fun lovers/trolls lol... look at hamsta/mizuoni :P

    all the other classes have their fair share of inquisitive minds and R-tards, but thats a whole other story.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    clerics: wai does my squad suck? is this normal? *begins long description of what happened*
    another cleric replies: just let them die you have the power!
    yet another cleric: you go girl!
    Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
    Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
    Qui: b:dirty
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    archers - most analytical on these boards, just look at all the math on their forum

    what happens when wizzies try to do math b:shocked

    we get teh calculus out.
    b:shocked

    refer to page 3 +
    (>.<)'
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »

    wizards - tend to be the fun lovers/trolls lol... look at hamsta/mizuoni :P
    so...me am fun lover and mizuoni be the troll right?
    =D
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Argyle - Dreamweaver
    Argyle - Dreamweaver Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Hands down the class with the highest damage is the GM class. They can 1 shot anyone and everything in the game.

    ~Saitada

    not true, not true, lol, way back when i dodged like 5 hits from Kantorek before he finally hit me, lol, well guess technically it was still a one shot, but was still pretty cool.

    didn't read all the way through this thread, but archer for constant damage and wizzy for spike damage. veno with herc/nix is also up there.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Argyle - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    not true, not true, lol, way back when i dodged like 5 hits from Kantorek before he finally hit me, lol, well guess technically it was still a one shot, but was still pretty cool.

    didn't read all the way through this thread, but archer for constant damage and wizzy for spike damage. veno with herc/nix is also up there.

    How does archer do constant damage????
    eh, when it comes to these forums, 9 times out of 10 its an empty, one sided debate; whereas one side has good points, and the other thinks making stuff up is a good counter. then all the trolls +1 the troll in the argument, and it gets nowhere!

    of my time here:
    archers - most analytical on these boards, just look at all the math on their forum

    venos - best debators, they tend to be the opposite of the archers, and are better with words rather than numbers. (just look at the huge debates on veno boards >_> so much thread jacking.)

    wizards - tend to be the fun lovers/trolls lol... look at hamsta/mizuoni :P

    all the other classes have their fair share of inquisitive minds and R-tards, but thats a whole other story.

    Hmmm, maybe because i do this for fun and to not come home from school to do more work?????
    I'm sorry that I can't make giant walls of text for you, catch me on the weekend k?

    You just dont seem to like people who have opposite views of yours.


    I am now going to answers the OPs question:

    The class with the highest damage(besides Gms) is: Wizards

    You dont believe? Go the the class discussion and look at the text under wizards.
    Like seeing big numbers pop up on your screen? Chances are you're a Wizard.

    Wizards achieve the highest damage in the game and have the strongest skills in game. There is no class that can do more damage in a single hit than a well built wizard.

    Well build endgame wizard > all

    Do you want me to make pwcalcs and show SSs? I can do that if you want.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze

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