Should Rei restat to pew pew arcane?

oh btw many people are saying heavy build is expensive. it's NOT expensive! just takes some minutes from your life to browse auction house every day! OK if you have a deep wallet to get all items with 3 stat adds great but that's not the only way to play decently with a heavy veno!

the stat addon gear isnt even a quater of the reason why HA venos are expensive..
its because u need to refine ur gear alot
especially your weapon

and rei are you really gonna restat
ur guide was the only reason i decided to go HA in the first place ... and now this T_T

Well like i said the only true expense is the sharding and refining of gear...
the mats can very well be farmed by yourself. time consuming, yes, but free
but the refining and sharding is a major pain.

you need to have a high refine on the weapon to make up for the loss of mag
you need to refine ur armours to atleast +5 cause of the low hp pool
you need to shard with at the very least flawless for the hp

this build (Ha caster) is pricey lol

Reikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Can the arcane venomancers give me a little more incentive or better arguement for switching? I'm looking at the pvp aspect of it, pve will just come along with it naturally.

Any pvp experienced venomancers like to put forward their view on killing/surviving the other classes as an arcane?

Being a PVP Arcane Veno is awesome! I have always been arcane and been in PK mode since i was 60 and i nearly never shut it off. Surviving I dont doubt is easier in HA, but i dont have any particular problems. In fox form and using regular pots in a 1v1 (pk of course, no duels here) I have more physical defense than magical (sage fox FTW). For the most part I can litereally sit there and not do a thing besides pot and i am almost unkillable in fox (you do have to worry about crits and zerks :-(

Stealing aggro from my pet always happens for me at the moment because of my higher crit %, but dosen't phase me since the defense I have blah blah blah. I suppose this would become a more worrying situation as an arcane veno? I remember it was when I was a little nooblet. I know the cost of HP would be higher, but I think HP would be more of a concern for me as pvp instead of what little more P.def I can gain?

I never had too many roblems stealing aggro till i hit my 90's and started refineing my weapon. Stealing aggro is a big problem. You cant constantly hit mobs other wise you will steal aggro. For soloing dungeons it becomes very annoying and you end up using your a charm a bit, unless you want to take your time. I also have 10% crit so that doesnt help either.

Most of the opponents I face all go nuts for HP, i've got to be able to match them to survive and kill. I get idiots telling me I cant survive certain bosses/mobs/ganks just 'cus i'm a venomancer, boy do their minds change quickly :]
You may not refine yourself as you see it a waste in coin to do so since you need the souledge of it to upgrade, but I cant have my magic attack sitting at a lower rate compared to my enemie's +5 lol.

Being Veno's our attack WILL be lower than other magic users, bc we have pets. The game was designed that way. Despite this I have no problems going into battle and killing without a nix. Although i guess it may be fair to mention that my current weap is lunar gold and my previous was a wraith conq. refined to 8.

There hasnt been a barb on this server that has challenged me to a 1v1 that i havent killed, (and yes this is without a pet). BM's are a MUCH harder class to kill 1v1, and IMO shows whether or not you have 'skill' as a veno. I have killed every BM on the server without a pet as well. (Although with Curse's current gear he wins more often than id like :-/ ). BM's win more often in general bc of their stun lock. Archers hit like a train but go into fox mode and get close, jump out of fox and kill em. Most archers drop in 3-4 hits.

Im not fully aware of all the advantages you had in HA fox. But of course going arcane your phys attack goes out the window. I'm only in fox for the sage skills (purge, amp,soul deg) and for the defense. Other than that i stay human. Wizards still fall like cake, clerics are always a bit harder to take bc they can heal themselves.

Some venos consider other PvP venos their greatest threat. All i can say to this, is learn to fight without your damn pet. If you become good at it, you will have a MAJOR leg up. You ask a veno for a 1v1 without a pet. They say no, everytime.... This includes the 'elite' PvP venos in the server.... IMO it really sucks that so many of you hide behind your nix for attack (or the bleed skill )

I can understand being HA and using it so much bc your attack is nerfed quite a bit. As arcane, yes our attack is weaker than other magic users, but we also have some incredible skills that other class only dream of (Especially as a Sage). If you want to be a better arcane PvP veno, learn to stand your ground and not run when your damn bird dies....


Good luck in making a decision. If you like Rei, Im usually out at west gate looking for kills and challenging 1v1's. You can come out and take a look.

williamzeo wrote: »

You was my model for heavy fox, saying that you want to give up really break up my heart =x

I second that. b:sad

Hisuna - Sanctuary wrote: »

And honestly I just have to say, my magic attack really didn't go down all that much. I thought it was going to be this catastrophic loss, but my magic attack is still around 7k with the cleric magic buff. (Max)

What's your channeling at? That's the real loss, unless you decided to just melee, in which case I wonder how your dps is compared to an arcane venos. Heavy always looks to me to trade off some offense for some defense, which can be rather useful at times, but not always.