Anniversary Pack Discussion

Animositas is right, everyone should, or does know that.
However ANNIVERSARY Packs are not required for this game to survive. Considering they were called anniversary packs for a reason, they should remain to be released once a year. The devs, or whoever decides what is released should release something new, or make something new etc. Not re-release something that completely blows up the economy and throws people into //ragequit fits.
Yes buying from the cashshop supports the game, but ani packs are not necessary for people to do that, there's plenty of other things that could be released.

BladeHunnter - Sanctuary wrote: »

np like u said we need the aniversry pack to keep this game free and not have to pay monthly
oh btw u have a faction animosatas?

Gm's don't set and control the prices, devs do.
No one is blaming the GM's, as you can see from this thread spoons and xarfox are trying to get enough player opinions posted here to be able to put forward a valid argument in favour of ending this event on behalf of the player base.

Major respect to the GM's for the way in which they've handled the situation so far.

Anniversary packs are not necessary in order to fund the game content and keep it f2p. The cash shop is necessary, I admit. The sales and offers are necessary. But the repeat of a second month of anniversary packs despite extremely negative player response is really pushing it somewhat. Basically, these packs, thanks to the lure of extremely rare items, sell like crazy and make the company a vast sum of money. And due to that "success", they decided to go for round 2. We can boycott all we like. I haven't bought a single gold since this mess started. But it only takes about 1% of the population to control the economy. The real issue here is the other 99% of players feelings are not being considered at all. As long as the 1% spend multi thousand dollars the company profits and our opinions are completely rejected. But that other 99% is the player base, and without a player base a game will die. Hence the entire reason for concern.

Of course, this is just my opinion on the matter, and I fully respect your opinion too.

malixdark wrote: »

Gm's don't set and control the prices, devs do.
No one is blaming the GM's, as you can see from this thread spoons and xarfox are trying to get enough player opinions posted here to be able to put forward a valid argument in favour of ending this event on behalf of the player base.

Major respect to the GM's for the way in which they've handled the situation so far.

Anniversary packs are not necessary in order to fund the game content and keep it f2p. The cash shop is necessary, I admit. The sales and offers are necessary. But the repeat of a second month of anniversary packs despite extremely negative player response is really pushing it somewhat. Basically, these packs, thanks to the lure of extremely rare items, sell like crazy and make the company a vast sum of money. And due to that "success", they decided to go for round 2. We can boycott all we like. I haven't bought a single gold since this mess started. But it only takes about 1% of the population to control the economy. The real issue here is the other 99% of players feelings are not being considered at all. As long as the 1% spend multi thousand dollars the company profits and our opinions are completely rejected. But that other 99% is the player base, and without a player base a game will die. Hence the entire reason for concern.

Of course, this is just my opinion on the matter, and I fully respect your opinion too.

well what prevoked this thread was i saw in world chat people flamming the gms so it unfortunantly does seem some people are blaming them.


also a reply to the event being not needed to survive ur right. but keep in mind its supposed to be a reward for devoted players. again human greed comes into it

all i has to say on the topic of ann packs is no ones is forcing u to play nor are they forcing u to buy them, also if u know how to play ur class u dont always need uber gear to play.

King_Asmodei - Lost City wrote: »

all i has to say on the topic of ann packs is no ones is forcing u to play nor are they forcing u to buy them, also if u know how to play ur class u dont always need uber gear to play.

agreed, but its damn tempting for people to take the easy way and cs **** b:sad

Animositas - Sanctuary wrote: »

well what prevoked this thread was i saw in world chat people flamming the gms so it unfortunantly does seem some people are blaming them.


also a reply to the event being not needed to survive ur right. but keep in mind its supposed to be a reward for devoted players. again human greed comes into it

I know, sadly some players don't know the difference and just flame without thinking, not realizing the GM's are actually doing the best the can to help them =/
Those people don't really know what they're talking about, and more often than not just like complaining.

As for the event being a reward for devoted players, it actually turns out to be more the opposite. The lunar and frost equips and tomes in the packs are items which devoted players have spent countless months and vast sums of money obtaining, only to see a random player get lucky with 5 gold and obtain the same item, or a heavy cash shopper buy 10 of said item in 5 minutes.

Tamuz - Lost City wrote: »

sheesh people , learn perfect world logic , there is 2 anniversarys a year ! DUH !b:chuckle

yea XD ... PWI had been created 2 time I guess lol

Animositas - Sanctuary wrote: »

The sale of gold for coin should be govererned. in the real world if a man has a basket of fruit in during a depression. and charges ten times what its worth to sell it. the law gets involved because Proffiteering is illeagal. if people really want the gms to help this situation. then i purpose a limit system on the sale of gold. lower gold prices will premote the sale of gold. inturn turning over more revenue then astronomical gold prices.......


any one agree?

I said that in one of my posts ~__~ I'm pretty sure everyone except for people who benefit from the high gold prices would like it.

Ok,THAT IS SO STUPID!FIRST,THE ANIVERSARY IS DONE! SECOND,HARDLY NE1 BOUGHT IT! THIRD,GOLD PRICES R GONNA GET HIGHER!LIKE 1MILLION FOR EACH!ANNIVERSARY IS WUT STARTED THE HIGH PRICES! SOO STUPID!

Animositas - Sanctuary wrote: »

The sale of gold for coin should be govererned. in the real world if a man has a basket of fruit in during a depression. and charges ten times what its worth to sell it. the law gets involved because Proffiteering is illeagal. if people really want the gms to help this situation. then i purpose a limit system on the sale of gold. lower gold prices will premote the sale of gold. inturn turning over more revenue then astronomical gold prices.......


any one agree?

hi, about your point right, from initial analysis i would say there will definately be a shortage depending on how much u limit gold prices with respect to coins. i am not sure whether that will happen, but sellers may start to spam wc and forum just like what we buyers do right now.
if prices are not allowed to rise, shortage will remain for sometime, maybe for a quite long time. so the quantity of gold transected is determined by sellers. which means there will be less gold transected across the market.
thats y pwe probably wont restrict prices as that means lower sales on their end. or to put it in another way, ppl who buy gold with real cash now see a lower returns on their purchase, so they will not buy as much as b4.
in fact i tink in the long run, pwe will not allow gold prices to fall, the most they will do is to keep a steady and slow inflation of gold prices with respect to coins. if u a one of the gold buyers using USD to buy gold, u will definately prefer the prices to be 500k rather than 200k coins.

Jolin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

hi, about your point right, from initial analysis i would say there will definately be a shortage depending on how much u limit gold prices with respect to coins. i am not sure whether that will happen, but sellers may start to spam wc and forum just like what we buyers do right now.
if prices are not allowed to rise, shortage will remain for sometime, maybe for a quite long time. so the quantity of gold transected is determined by sellers. which means there will be less gold transected across the market.
thats y pwe probably wont restrict prices as that means lower sales on their end. or to put it in another way, ppl who buy gold with real cash now see a lower returns on their purchase, so they will not buy as much as b4.
in fact i tink in the long run, pwe will not allow gold prices to fall, the most they will do is to keep a steady and slow inflation of gold prices with respect to coins. if u a one of the gold buyers using USD to buy gold, u will definately prefer the prices to be 500k rather than 200k coins.

ill reffer u to the post above yours.... People will always take the easier option if they can afford it.

Shao_on_Fire - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Our thoughts about the anni packs being brought back? That's easy.

Fail.

It had massive effect on in-game economy, and lends a serious advantage to players who can "splurge" tons of cash into them, with items like Scroll of Tome and endgame weapons[which, last time I checked, were supposed to be really hard to get???]

Gold prices today in HT server went up to 500k a piece- Gold Guardian Charms are selling for over a mill[again.].

So, for a player like myself who can't spend a crazy amount of cash on this event- it makes buying a lot of things in-game harder.

Please, cancel this event, let the economy stabilize, and come up with some other way to make money- see my reply post in topic "Fashion Rip-off" for a gold-generating idea[ I'll give you a hint: it involves these forums, people choosing what they want, and the PWI staff actually selling it to us. it's win/win.]

I disagree with being able to choose what we buy it would be great ill give u that but if end game gear and all that stuff became easily available. wheres the fun? Im all for cheaper economy but that concept perhaps a lil to far. and buy a lil i mean a lot. we still need to work for our meals right?

Animositas - Sanctuary wrote: »

I disagree with being able to choose what we buy it would be great ill give u that but if end game gear and all that stuff became easily available. wheres the fun? Im all for cheaper economy but that concept perhaps a lil to far. and buy a lil i mean a lot. we still need to work for our meals right?

It's clear to me you didn't actually go and READ my other post- because it had nothing to do with end-game weapons- it had to do with voting for fashion. next time, go read the details before you open your mouth. kthxbai.

ok, so you are reading. i am glad of this. but can you, Kantorek or whoever is in charge *PLEASE* give us some official word on the problems posted here? and on the Chinese lockdown on games? i am so worried about this. please?

eatwithspoons wrote: »

We're still watching this thread, just not posting much because I'm having a busy day.b:victory

Ok well it seems like reading this is a waste of time because like last time gotta grin ur teeth for a month then move on but here is why the ani packs r bad the second time around.

First time around they were great lowered lots of things in prices but guess what rasied important things too and when u have that for too long like now when u add the packs again it gets to be crazy.

People were mad the first time u brought them out so how can u say back by popular demand?

And like many ppl have said i thought anni only happened once a year so wth.


Also the last time u did this u had to fix the duke yet again u bring these in and the duke is free to spam my screen he should get a ban.

Now im not gonna threat to ragequit or whatever because this is game is too much fun but i must say that this is crazy and ur bosses need to try to get their head on right rant over.....for now lol