cq and gold price (?)
davijohans
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imma put it as a question, since its just a thought i had but:
can it be that since CQ (highrank) members got TONS of coins, and the best stuff are usually payed with gold, that the reason for the high gold price in non event time is that they can efford it ( while most of us cant...)?
like, if they use like.. 800k a week for CS, pots and repairment, the rest 2m a week ( avarage) can be saved and used to get gold, i dinno meny ppl who got 2m coins a week for ..saving and investments..
just saying, it just another reason for every single guild on LC to work against cq ( other than the land control and pvp domination), IMO , the guilds who side with cq are selling the rest of the server out for some cq leftovers, and i hope they all end up like GZ did.
go rq&spectral, keep on fighting the good war.
can it be that since CQ (highrank) members got TONS of coins, and the best stuff are usually payed with gold, that the reason for the high gold price in non event time is that they can efford it ( while most of us cant...)?
like, if they use like.. 800k a week for CS, pots and repairment, the rest 2m a week ( avarage) can be saved and used to get gold, i dinno meny ppl who got 2m coins a week for ..saving and investments..
just saying, it just another reason for every single guild on LC to work against cq ( other than the land control and pvp domination), IMO , the guilds who side with cq are selling the rest of the server out for some cq leftovers, and i hope they all end up like GZ did.
go rq&spectral, keep on fighting the good war.
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davijohans wrote: »imma put it as a question, since its just a thought i had but:
can it be that since CQ (highrank) members got TONS of coins, and the best stuff are usually payed with gold, that the reason for the high gold price in non event time is that they can efford it ( while most of us cant...)?
like, if they use like.. 800k a week for CS, pots and repairment, the rest 2m a week ( avarage) can be saved and used to get gold, i dinno meny ppl who got 2m coins a week for ..saving and investments..
just saying, it just another reason for every single guild on LC to work against cq ( other than the land control and pvp domination), IMO , the guilds who side with cq are selling the rest of the server out for some cq leftovers, and i hope they all end up like GZ did.
go rq&spectral, keep on fighting the good war.
There is indeed a very simple answer to all of this....
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davijohans wrote: »imma Put It As A Question, Since Its Just A Thought I Had But:
Can It Be That Since Cq (highrank) Members Got Tons Of Coins, And The Best Stuff Are Usually Payed With Gold, That The Reason For The High Gold Price In Non Event Time Is That They Can Efford It ( While Most Of Us Cant...)?
Like, If They Use Like.. 800k A Week For Cs, Pots And Repairment, The Rest 2m A Week ( Avarage) Can Be Saved And Used To Get Gold, I Dinno Meny Ppl Who Got 2m Coins A Week For ..saving And Investments..
Just Saying, It Just Another Reason For Every Single Guild On Lc To Work Against Cq ( Other Than The Land Control And Pvp Domination), Imo , The Guilds Who Side With Cq Are Selling The Rest Of The Server Out For Some Cq Leftovers, And I Hope They All End Up Like Gz Did.
Go Rq&spectral, Keep On Fighting The Good War.
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davijohans wrote: »imma put it as a question, since its just a thought i had but:
can it be that since CQ (highrank) members got TONS of coins, and the best stuff are usually payed with gold, that the reason for the high gold price in non event time is that they can efford it ( while most of us cant...)?
like, if they use like.. 800k a week for CS, pots and repairment, the rest 2m a week ( avarage) can be saved and used to get gold, i dinno meny ppl who got 2m coins a week for ..saving and investments..
just saying, it just another reason for every single guild on LC to work against cq ( other than the land control and pvp domination), IMO , the guilds who side with cq are selling the rest of the server out for some cq leftovers, and i hope they all end up like GZ did.
go rq&spectral, keep on fighting the good war.
I hate to bring some valid points into your thoughts but it has to be done. Again just like every other idiot that has come onto the forums trying to make CQ sound like the bad people, you are trying your best to say that CQ's land owning is the reason for gold prices increasing.
If you knew the real reason you would know for yourself how stupid you sound. It isn't CQ's fault it is any cash shopper on the server that want ingame gold for their own personal advantages.
Yes, CQ has some cash shoppers now and Spectral harbors the rest. So blame it on those cash shoppers out there because really, 3.5m a week can not ruin the server. People farming HH everyday all day can do better than that. Stop being **** for once and coming up with conclusions that have no logic in it.Conqueror
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davijohans wrote: »imma put it as a question, since its just a thought i had but:
can it be that since CQ (highrank) members got TONS of coins, and the best stuff are usually payed with gold, that the reason for the high gold price in non event time is that they can efford it ( while most of us cant...)?
like, if they use like.. 800k a week for CS, pots and repairment, the rest 2m a week ( avarage) can be saved and used to get gold, i dinno meny ppl who got 2m coins a week for ..saving and investments..
just saying, it just another reason for every single guild on LC to work against cq ( other than the land control and pvp domination), IMO , the guilds who side with cq are selling the rest of the server out for some cq leftovers, and i hope they all end up like GZ did.
go rq&spectral, keep on fighting the good war.
oh good Lord *faints* the fact that you seriously put thought into this concept floors me.
let me explain as simply as i can. the gold prices have NOTHING to do with CQ or any other one guild. high gold prices have to do with people buying gold at high prices. if no one buys gold at 400k what happens? the person who put the gold in will enter it at a lower price. for all you know RQ and Spec are the ones buying it at 400k. ever thought about that?
easier way for you to attempt to "fix" the server is to stand by the auctioneer and shout in all chat: DONT BUY GOLD UNTIL IT IS AT XXXX AMOUNT.the good Starr0 -
Interestingly recently while bored and PWI-less I was pondering the Lost City economy. It strikes me that this game is designed with a flaw in the economical development area.
As the servers on PWI grow and land is taken.. (by any guild not just CQ) over time the server becomes flooded with coins. Each week millions more coins come into the server from no where through the TW system. Now here in lies the problem... there are no in game services which are needed/ used enough to filter the coin back out. In other games you would need to buy potions - weapons armour and all manner of things with in game gold. However in PWI these things arent needed they are controlled through the cash shop. Heiros replace pots and armour and weapons are freely farmed - upgrades for gearare obtained through CSing - Most people dont use teleportation - buy res scrolls - or any npc items. Once upon a time lots of coin was filtered out through npc shard manufacture, but recently that too has died due to shards being readily avalible through other means.
This in turn means that the coin is flowing from player to player, but the coin never drains away. If there is an abundance of gold.. and an infinitely increasing supply entering the server is it any wonder that it becomes constantly more worthless? I mean if the world had an infinite supply of oil I doubt gas prices would keep rising.
Imagine, if you will, a fat man with a cork in his butt... this fat man keeps being fed cake from a infinitely supplying cake machine... lets for arguements sake call this cake machine - PWI's TW payments and lets call our fat man Mr.Server.... now Mr server keeps eating the cake, and some of it is processed into his body, however most of the cake which is not absorbed needs to go somewhere...but it cant.. because Mr.Server has a cork in his butt... So Mr. Server becomes backed up... and gets a stomach ache because he cant pass out the waste product of the cake.... eventually Mr.Server becomes so overloaded with cake he dies and explodes everywhere In a shower of goo and cake.
So end my ponderings and musings for today.
(Also someone with mad 1337 paint skills please draw a diagram of my fat cake man theory of PWI economics.)0 -
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DarkSniper - Lost City wrote: »It's a Mini-MiniTank
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LaTrappe - Lost City wrote: »In Which case we need a Mini-Me to get this thread locked.
Your "fat man" Theory might do it....b:shocked[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »Your "fat man" Theory might do it....b:shocked
My fat man theory needs a thread all of its own.... and to be stickied for all of the "CQ ruins teh economiez" people.0 -
davijohans wrote: »imma put it as a question, since its just a thought i had but:
can it be that since CQ (highrank) members got TONS of coins, and the best stuff are usually payed with gold, that the reason for the high gold price in non event time is that they can efford it ( while most of us cant...)?
like, if they use like.. 800k a week for CS, pots and repairment, the rest 2m a week ( avarage) can be saved and used to get gold, i dinno meny ppl who got 2m coins a week for ..saving and investments..
just saying, it just another reason for every single guild on LC to work against cq ( other than the land control and pvp domination), IMO , the guilds who side with cq are selling the rest of the server out for some cq leftovers, and i hope they all end up like GZ did.
go rq&spectral, keep on fighting the good war.
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davijohans wrote: »imma put it as a question, since its just a thought i had but:
can it be that since CQ (highrank) members got TONS of coins, and the best stuff are usually payed with gold, that the reason for the high gold price in non event time is that they can efford it ( while most of us cant...)?
like, if they use like.. 800k a week for CS, pots and repairment, the rest 2m a week ( avarage) can be saved and used to get gold, i dinno meny ppl who got 2m coins a week for ..saving and investments..
just saying, it just another reason for every single guild on LC to work against cq ( other than the land control and pvp domination), IMO , the guilds who side with cq are selling the rest of the server out for some cq leftovers, and i hope they all end up like GZ did.
go rq&spectral, keep on fighting the good war.
Please go learn proper English capitalization and punctuation. I only got to half way of your wall of text cause it was hard to read your Br.0 -
Latrappe should be a kindergarden teacher.
Now.. Gold price is around the same in ALL servers. not only lost city has gold for 600k.
Pw economy = real economy
Cash shooper buy packs, no one want to sell gold.. but buy packs.. More people want gold.. But there's not enough so price go up. Since people PAY for it.. Gold stays the same.(not only cq buys gold ingame)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Ottogi - Lost City wrote: »THANK GOD someone finally made a CQ vs Spec/RQ thread pointing out how CQ hurts the server. I was wondering when someone would get the cojones to do it.
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Azura, ill cap. the sentnces, but im not gonna check spelling much, also its kinnda non-relevent to the topic.
Trappe, your theory sounds good and should be broght to devs attantion.However u should notice that when all the "extra" coins are spread among 500ppl each week than they will waste it for daily uses, but when same 80 ppl have it each week than the effect is much more noticable and harmming.
And about the facts, well avarege cq memeber will get 2.7mil a week, dailys are 80k a day and pots and gear fix are some more, so 2m coins who falls under trappes "extra" definitons per week per cq member sounds like a close guess.0 -
davijohans wrote: »Azura, ill cap. the sentnces, but im not gonna check spelling much, also its kinnda non-relevent to the topic.
Trappe, your theory sounds good and should be broght to devs attantion.However u should notice that when all the "extra" coins are spread among 500ppl each week than they will waste it for daily uses, but when same 80 ppl have it each week than the effect is much more noticable and harmming.
And about the facts, well avarege cq memeber will get 2.7mil a week, dailys are 80k a day and pots and gear fix are some more, so 2m coins who falls under trappes "extra" definitons per week per cq member sounds like a close guess.
IF they buy gold with coin... MONEY goes to the cash shopper sellin GOLD.. Either way the cash shopper is the one gettin RICh and are the ones to blame for increasing price[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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KedgeSniper - Lost City wrote: »IF they buy gold with coin... MONEY goes to the cash shopper sellin GOLD.. Either way the cash shopper is the one gettin RICh and are the ones to blame for increasing price
Nope, they just selling for the highest bidders, theres no reason to blame a gold seller.
Also cq are not to be blamed. Since they are simply serving there best intrest, and if they can bid on gold when some1 else cant i dont expact them not to.
The 1s to blame are the mid-big guilds, espacially the leadership, who fail to see the greater good in allying all vs cq.0 -
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LaTrappe - Lost City wrote: »Imagine, if you will, a fat man with a cork in his butt... this fat man keeps being fed cake from a infinitely supplying cake machine... lets for arguements sake call this cake machine - PWI's TW payments and lets call our fat man Mr.Server.... now Mr server keeps eating the cake, and some of it is processed into his body, however most of the cake which is not absorbed needs to go somewhere...but it cant.. because Mr.Server has a cork in his butt... So Mr. Server becomes backed up... and gets a stomach ache because he cant pass out the waste product of the cake.... eventually Mr.Server becomes so overloaded with cake he dies and explodes everywhere In a shower of goo and cake.
So end my ponderings and musings for today.
(Also someone with mad 1337 paint skills please draw a diagram of my fat cake man theory of PWI economics.)
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davijohans wrote: »
can it be that since CQ (highrank) members got TONS of coins, and the best stuff are usually payed with gold, that the reason for the high gold price in non event time is that they can efford it ( while most of us cant...)?
Because CQ gets so many coins a week, they all have +12 CV weapons/event armor, right? >_>0 -
successful troll is successful lol
one person makes a post about CQ being rich and controlling things and CQ piles in to defend them self by calling OP an idiot. You all just got had, this is an obvious troll on CQ.
You can't deny that cq is rich and powerful and controls nearly the whole map or that they arent much help to their allies, at least I've yet to see them be any help. But I'll agree it is sort of a streach to say they control something that is player based supply and demand, if you dont like the gold price then dont buy it, if enough people dont buy then prices go down. The same can be said for the reverse, if people buy for a high price then it goes up and although cq members might be buying/selling, they arent all of the listings.0 -
LaTrappe - Lost City wrote: »Imagine, if you will, a fat man with a cork in his butt... this fat man keeps being fed cake from a infinitely supplying cake machine... lets for arguements sake call this cake machine - PWI's TW payments and lets call our fat man Mr.Server.... now Mr server keeps eating the cake, and some of it is processed into his body, however most of the cake which is not absorbed needs to go somewhere...but it cant.. because Mr.Server has a cork in his butt... So Mr. Server becomes backed up... and gets a stomach ache because he cant pass out the waste product of the cake.... eventually Mr.Server becomes so overloaded with cake he dies and explodes everywhere In a shower of goo and cake.
So end my ponderings and musings for today.
(Also someone with mad 1337 paint skills please draw a diagram of my fat cake man theory of PWI economics.)
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Thedarkrealm - Lost City wrote: »successful troll is successful lol
one person makes a post about CQ being rich and controlling things and CQ piles in to defend them self by calling OP an idiot. You all just got had, this is an obvious troll on CQ.
You can't deny that cq is rich and powerful and controls nearly the whole map or that they arent much help to their allies, at least I've yet to see them be any help. But I'll agree it is sort of a streach to say they control something that is player based supply and demand, if you dont like the gold price then dont buy it, if enough people dont buy then prices go down. The same can be said for the reverse, if people buy for a high price then it goes up and although cq members might be buying/selling, they arent all of the listings.
i agree
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The problem is the lack of money sink... in a way, salary ruins the server, but it doesn't matter whether it's one guild holding land or twenty. The fact that there's what, 500m going into the economy every week means that people will have a lot of money to spend. An economy with a lot of money means higher prices on just about anything.
And the money stays in circulation;
- Gear repairs aren't going to do much
- Pots? Are gotten through cash shop (ty jolly jones)
- Shards? Are gotten through cash shop (both events)
- TW? Uh, how much is actually lost there every week? Some towers/cata's/bidding
Other than that there's things like buying molds and armor/weapons, but that only really happens at lower levels. May have forgotten something, but I doubt it could have a significant effect. Feel free to correct.
Now add the fact that you basically get 10m going into the economy every time 2 best luck tokens are gotten through packs... and the standard coin/DQ/equip drops and so on.
Goodbye economy.Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.0
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