Bound Charms
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DarkSniper - Lost City wrote: »Hmmm so spoons does TW.
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yeah i would lvoe this as im only using for TT+TW. anywhere else its kinda waste. atm im doing alot of FC.. soo im going uncharmed, mainly because of the 2 bosses at end which does the % of hp aoe. it always tick my charm no matter how good the clerics are. and when a charm tick for 9-10k each tick its no fun. the hp the aoe does it regaining easy before next aoe even just bb heal..
a reason im not doing TT atm = doing Fc, so wont equip charm cos of burn. and cant go TT without charm lol.
or also make charms able to be customized to the % it tick .. no need to be able to unbound. jsut set tick percent to 0% lol.I'm sorry for misspelling / mistyping and grammar b:surrender
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Heartstone - Dreamweaver wrote: »or also make charms able to be customized to the % it tick .. no need to be able to unbound. jsut set tick percent to 0% lol.
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DeathBanana - Heavens Tear wrote: »Lol, personally I was thinking around 25%
For PVP purposes I think 50% for an HP charm is about where you want to be. Any lower you increase the risk of being killed through your charm, any higher and you tick too early. I guess it depends on your max HP, barbs could get away with a lower setting. Although you never know when a 12k+ Sage BIDS is heading your way...I like pie0 -
Ty - Heavens Tear wrote: »For PVP purposes I think 50% for an HP charm is about where you want to be. Any lower you increase the risk of being killed through your charm, any higher and you tick too early. I guess it depends on your max HP, barbs could get away with a lower setting. Although you never know when a 12k+ Sage BIDS is heading your way...
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An Mp charm ticks to early imo, its should tick at 50% like an HP charm, not at 75% (iirc) it does now.
HP charms being bound isnt a big issue for PvE, since 99% of the time on my BM it hardly ticks even when aoe grinding, I just use pots and sutra before it gets that low. I use it more of a safety net than anything else.
TT/FF are a differant matter.... bloody thing always ticks on the last boss in FF .... 5k aoe dmg b:cry0 -
I've suggested in the past that there be a tiny slider on the HP & MP charm, to self set the % tick. You could turn it up in TW when you want to make sure to stay high, & then turn it down to 0% while doing acts you'd rather not waste it. That way its not relying on any 1 persons oppinion as to what an appropriate setting to tick, but changes per user & situation.0
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Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »I've suggested in the past that there be a tiny slider on the HP & MP charm, to self set the % tick. You could turn it up in TW when you want to make sure to stay high, & then turn it down to 0% while doing acts you'd rather not waste it. That way its not relying on any 1 persons oppinion as to what an appropriate setting to tick, but changes per user & situation.
OMG, I like this idea! XD
Possibly have a limit to 25-75% manageable tick.....YEAH.
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Wow thought this thread would die.
Anyway I agree with Ty, charms should remain "bound", so they cannot be sold/traded once equiped.
And @ eatwithspoons. Coming from a PvP server, I (and most of the server) PvP multiple times every day. Charms are only really needed for PvP...because in PvE there are many other options to choose from without "ticking" the charm.
Frustrated, QQ, whatever. I hope you can suggest this to the Devs.0 -
Forgot to mention it was an MP charm I was talking about.
Anyway, if they end up doing something like this, they better make the cooldown rate adjust with the %, or else it'll be a contest of who's charm runs out first...and we don't want that...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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i like the idea of percentage based mana charms. HP charms shouldn't be adjusted though, for PVP they're fine. But in a rebirth with a mana aura at level 3 and a level 10 barrage it'd be lovely to have some give and not waste an entire gold MP charm
on a side note, why would spoons use pots? I thought that cape u get has like +999999999 pdef and +999999999 mag def? harpy wraith would hit like, 1's on you. your hp would regen faster than it would be lost!0 -
eatwithspoons wrote: »I know JD allows you to set a specific percent to use HP or SP pots. I wonder if something similar could be suggested/considered
ok call me noobie, but what is JD? yes i tried looking it up, but the search function doesn't work for most acronyms (they're too short). when i see the answer i'm sure i will kick myself.
[EDIT: yea i realized just after hitting reply... Jade Dynasty. i'm really overtired right now, but i'm ok w not getting that one cuz i've never played it. anywho...]
p.s. to spoons: see that's the trouble w being godly. u end up not being able to speak when u wish, for fear that the masses with only go crazy upon hearing your voice!Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »I've suggested in the past that there be a tiny slider on the HP & MP charm, to self set the % tick. You could turn it up in TW when you want to make sure to stay high, & then turn it down to 0% while doing acts you'd rather not waste it. That way its not relying on any 1 persons oppinion as to what an appropriate setting to tick, but changes per user & situation.
this is a most excellent idea. i'd expect that to be quite the crowd pleaser. then if someone died w their charm set too low, they would only have their self to blame and not the devs for once!0 -
uhhh I'm pretty sure spoons plays a real char on one of the PvE servers. lol0
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turdburglary wrote: »this is a most excellent idea. i'd expect that to be quite the crowd pleaser. then if someone died w their charm set too low, they would only have their self to blame and not the devs for once!
No, they would come on the forums and complain to the devs that now they have to micromanage their charm, and how that is not fair, since they were in a hurry and forgot to check the setting, so they got killed and dropped <fill in blank>, which costed them a fortune.
If you have not kept up with reading most of the "scamming" threads, the common issue is that people were in a hurry and did not check the item they bought. So now you are suggesting that people get something that costs alot and that forces them to pay attention to its settings?????
One setting is just fine. Maybe change HP to 50% like the HP charm, but you really do not want to give the players more options that requires them to spend money AND pay attention. That would just create more problem. Same with unbinding charms... than people would be able to sell partial ones, which in turn would cause other players that were in a hurry to buy the partialy used ones and assume they were new ones, than they would come into the forums and scream "scam".Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
Nicoal - Dreamweaver wrote: »on a side note, why would spoons use pots? I thought that cape u get has like +999999999 pdef and +999999999 mag def? harpy wraith would hit like, 1's on you. your hp would regen faster than it would be lost!
As far as I know, those are their GM characters, and therefore, are not an actual playable, in terms of we know it, character. I believe Spoons is referring to an actual in game character, which would be of a class that would not be allowed to have a GM set of gear, as this would horribly impact the game. I also think they're only allowed to have those so they look very shiny to us, but eh, whatever, right?
On topic, though. I wish they would allow the percentage to be changed for our charms. I can't actually use one as my Veno without burning through it like wildfire. 75% is a couple of spells for me, and since I usually use a combination of Double Spark, and Nature's Grace to keep my MP up, if I use a Mana Charm... It completely screws my playing style. And if I use an HP charm, it completely defeats the point in me using Metabolic Boost. What good does a 50% increase in HP do me, when my charm ticks at 50%? I usually try to have one on for Rebirth, TTs and FBs, in case something goes wrong, but if I go grinding afterwards... There goes the rest of my charm.0 -
Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »As far as I know, those are their GM characters, and therefore, are not an actual playable, in terms of we know it, character. I believe Spoons is referring to an actual in game character, which would be of a class that would not be allowed to have a GM set of gear, as this would horribly impact the game. I also think they're only allowed to have those so they look very shiny to us, but eh, whatever, right?
On topic, though. I wish they would allow the percentage to be changed for our charms. I can't actually use one as my Veno without burning through it like wildfire. 75% is a couple of spells for me, and since I usually use a combination of Double Spark, and Nature's Grace to keep my MP up, if I use a Mana Charm... It completely screws my playing style. And if I use an HP charm, it completely defeats the point in me using Metabolic Boost. What good does a 50% increase in HP do me, when my charm ticks at 50%? I usually try to have one on for Rebirth, TTs and FBs, in case something goes wrong, but if I go grinding afterwards... There goes the rest of my charm.
Instead of a HP charm (excluding rebirths, at least until they address the dying sending you to 1k streams issue), just use an angel or two. If something happens in a TT or FB, you just revive in town and ran back, and since you have the angel, no experience lost, it is also much cheaper. Assuming this is all about saving money. If you are in a party and you know the cleric has demon res, than you don't even need to pack angels.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »Instead of a HP charm (excluding rebirths, at least until they address the dying sending you to 1k streams issue), just use an angel or two. If something happens in a TT or FB, you just revive in town and ran back, and since you have the angel, no experience lost, it is also much cheaper. Assuming this is all about saving money. If you are in a party and you know the cleric has demon res, than you don't even need to pack angels.
Actually, I don't carry Charms for me. I carry Charms for my teammates. I have Alpha Male. Which means, if something goes down, I WANT the mobs to come after me. Which is why I also want the best survivability so none of us end up wiping. I deal with the mobs, the party stays alive, and we continue on our merry way with only a tiny interruption along the way.0 -
Well veno's who PvP and do HH at a regular basis.... lol
Wouldn't it be nice to take it off for HH and put it back on for PvP b:bye0 -
Miss_Tika - Lost City wrote: »Well veno's who PvP and do HH at a regular basis.... lol
Wouldn't it be nice to take it off for HH and put it back on for PvP b:bye
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eatwithspoons wrote: »Ah yes this question has been around as long as PWI has existed. I guess the bottom line is that charms, although they can be considered necessary in certain PVP situations, are not the only method of healing available.
Call me old school, but I rarely if ever use charms in game, the bulk of my hp and sp regen comes from potions.
Who needs charms when you have 1000000000 phy def and 1m HP? <.<
oh, right.. non-GM chars..[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »No, they would come on the forums and complain to the devs that now they have to micromanage their charm, and how that is not fair, since they were in a hurry and forgot to check the setting, so they got killed and dropped <fill in blank>, which costed them a fortune.
If you have not kept up with reading most of the "scamming" threads, the common issue is that people were in a hurry and did not check the item they bought. So now you are suggesting that people get something that costs alot and that forces them to pay attention to its settings?????
One setting is just fine. Maybe change HP to 50% like the HP charm, but you really do not want to give the players more options that requires them to spend money AND pay attention. That would just create more problem.
This is why the slider would be on the physical HP/MP bars on their character data in the upper left. It would be adjusted from right there, on screen. Also would be easily visible, to strongly see when the HP was about to hit that mark.IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »Same with unbinding charms... than people would be able to sell partial ones, which in turn would cause other players that were in a hurry to buy the partialy used ones and assume they were new ones, than they would come into the forums and scream "scam".
Also here the idea would be to make them like Gold TT gear. Bound upon 1st equipping, but still removeable, just cannot be sold, traded, dropped, etc. I've also had a problem on my Veno, who i refuse to wear an MP charm on, the reason being that the fox form reduction in MP & then transformation back to humn forces a charm tick with every transformation, and its not even used MP. Well, once i accidentally double clicked when dragging & bam, MP charm equipped. It gives a warning if you already have one equipped & you'd be replacing, but nothing if the charm slot is empty. That bind warning would prevent accidental equipping of a charm for a forced bind in the 1st place.0 -
AinaMizuako - Sanctuary wrote: »Who needs charms when you have 1000000000 phy def and 1m HP? <.<
oh, right.. non-GM chars..
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Nicoal - Dreamweaver wrote: »i like the idea of percentage based mana charms. HP charms shouldn't be adjusted though, for PVP they're fine. But in a rebirth with a mana aura at level 3 and a level 10 barrage it'd be lovely to have some give and not waste an entire gold MP charm
I thought you liked the spirit charm that way @75% but w/e.I hear chamrs are only needed for pvp server what about TW and Instances.It is thought that clerics always have charm at 75% we would burn through them fast doing TT or RB.I wouldn't mind being able to take it off when only grinding or set it at 25%.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
Ya i wish i could set my mp charm to 25-50% i use quest potions more often as the mpcharm is backup when i run outb:shocked0
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I'd set my hp charm to 5% or so most of the time unless I was dealing with something like rebirth. Most of the time all it gets used for is to refill my mp.Main characters
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I refuse to let this thread die, therefore i think it`s the best suggestion of 09.
The sliding idea should be suggested to devs forsure.0 -
Danteii - Lost City wrote: »GMs are PAID, Mods aren't.
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Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »stuff.
So have option between 25-50-75% only and bind them. Those are good ideas.
That would make my HP charm last me over one year for a single gold one if I were to set it at 25% or less... and I am sure if I were to get a MP one it would last me pretty much forever at 25%....Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0
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