Secret Passage - Camping Banned?

Winddagger - Harshlands
Winddagger - Harshlands Posts: 224 Arc User
edited October 2009 in General Discussion
Sorry If I post this is this section, dunno where to post it.

K, In harshland server a month ago Gms Posted in World chat that Camping in Secret Passage is a offense now, but lately i been seeing a lot of people camping in the Secret passage, waiting till people leave the safe zone and start attacking them, The secret passage is a area where tons of quests are taken place also leading to the Fb29 Cave...Although Myself I can handle a few pkers My lv, but the I usually see a lot of people fresh lv 30 players getting pked constantly, haha yes its part of the game and because they are lv 30 it is still fair game cause there white Many of you might still reply and say.

But does it not concern us that we see a something like this happen...

I am unsure which GM did call the Rule in harshland that SP is a Camp free zone,

But since people are doing it, did they revoke it or is it still in place.

That is my Question!
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  • RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary
    RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary Posts: 593 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    PK events (player organized) happen all the time in SP on Sanctuary. Ive even seen GMs pop in there themselves to watch the action.

    I doubt it is bannable, or else a large majority of people would be banned already
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  • nemy6
    nemy6 Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    i've seen ppl get like a 3 day ban for it, but that was a few months ago. Im on harshlands too, and i think it was a GM on that server trying to stop that from happening but it doesnt look like they care about it that much anymore. Part of the game anyways, i got pked there plenty when i was lvl 30. If you lost exp for being pked, i could see that being a bannable offence, but sense you dont, its just an annoyance.
  • _icup - Harshlands
    _icup - Harshlands Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    It's what people do to see if the Gm's will actually do anything.
  • Ghost_eyes - Lost City
    Ghost_eyes - Lost City Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I've heard people wining about this on Lost City.

    I think it would be stupid to stop the pking in there. Its one few places pk's and pkk's can duke it out on an even playing field as archers cant fly in there.

    Noobs getting past the pkers is part of the challenge of the game. we all had to do it. Pkers are not there all the time.

    To put sanctions on the area would add one more to the lengthy list of reasons not to play this game anymore.
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  • Kott - Sanctuary
    Kott - Sanctuary Posts: 335 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    At least not on Sanctuary :/ I don't remember how many times I had to decline a fb29 when I had pk on during 80s b:embarrass Porting inside all the time is a pain, especially if others in squad duno the way.
  • HatedSoul - Sanctuary
    HatedSoul - Sanctuary Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    true but we have a choise to go pk or no , in harsh u dont can be anoying i bet b:laugh
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I've heard people wining about this on Lost City.

    I think it would be stupid to stop the pking in there. Its one few places pk's and pkk's can duke it out on an even playing field as archers cant fly in there.

    Noobs getting past the pkers is part of the challenge of the game. we all had to do it. Pkers are not there all the time.

    To put sanctions on the area would add one more to the lengthy list of reasons not to play this game anymore.

    ya I miss the pking in there.
    =(
    You meet alot of interesting people. d(^.-d)
    but no longer~ (T.T) it's all empty now...
    Also I never really got what was so bad about it.
    I've ran though SP dozens of times and I rarely get pked...
    also lol @ PvE people who complain. Just get your blue name up.
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  • Kott - Sanctuary
    Kott - Sanctuary Posts: 335 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    ya I miss the pking in there.
    =(
    You meet alot of interesting people. d(^.-d)
    but no longer~ (T.T) it's all empty now...
    Also I never really got what was so bad about it.
    I've ran though SP dozens of times and I rarely get pked...
    also lol @ PvE people who complain. Just get your blue name up.

    lol I'm not complaining ^^ I love being a white name & getting chased around through half the map b:cute
  • Cernunnosx - Heavens Tear
    Cernunnosx - Heavens Tear Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    There was a thread about it not long back.. Irrc the situation is.. Yes you can PK in the sp.. but if you constantly kill the same person over and over, hence stopping him from gaining access to an area he "must" visist to finish his quests, then it is considered griefing and is bannable.
  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    there is only one answer to this problem- leave HL.

    i had started in LC last year, and had the same problem. and also the same problem with the GMs-they dont care. i had reported it, they told me to go get into the situation, and if i got PKed, to at once send a ticket/call them. **no one** ever came. and they never replied to the tickets with the screenshots.

    they just dont care. ganking, boss pulling, you name it, its fine with them on the murder servers. and, to some degree, here as well.

    i hate PK, and think its wrong. so i left everything- lv35 veno with new mount, swan, clothes, new everything, and moved to HeavensTear. here, its only those who are crazy enough to go whitename who get shot, otherwise we are safe here.

    come on over, and be safe and play in a far more relaxed environment.



    Sorry If I post this is this section, dunno where to post it.

    K, In harshland server a month ago Gms Posted in World chat that Camping in Secret Passage is a offense now, but lately i been seeing a lot of people camping in the Secret passage, waiting till people leave the safe zone and start attacking them, The secret passage is a area where tons of quests are taken place also leading to the Fb29 Cave...Although Myself I can handle a few pkers My lv, but the I usually see a lot of people fresh lv 30 players getting pked constantly, haha yes its part of the game and because they are lv 30 it is still fair game cause there white Many of you might still reply and say.

    But does it not concern us that we see a something like this happen...

    I am unsure which GM did call the Rule in harshland that SP is a Camp free zone,

    But since people are doing it, did they revoke it or is it still in place.

    That is my Question!
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  • Lord__Zoa - Harshlands
    Lord__Zoa - Harshlands Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    PK events (player organized) happen all the time in SP on Sanctuary. Ive even seen GMs pop in there themselves to watch the action.

    I doubt it is bannable, or else a large majority of people would be banned already

    in Sanctuary yes its not bannable perhabs, BUT since harshlands server is a PVP server and players after lvl 30+ have no control over being pked(i.e. we don't have the pk button thingy on the top right hand corner) it can end up badly and you will keep ppl from compeleting their quests or what ever so it is banneable, don't ask me how i know~ oh wait i got banned in there lol
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  • SultryShade - Dreamweaver
    SultryShade - Dreamweaver Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I've heard people wining about this on Lost City.

    I think it would be stupid to stop the pking in there. Its one few places pk's and pkk's can duke it out on an even playing field as archers cant fly in there.

    Noobs getting past the pkers is part of the challenge of the game. we all had to do it. Pkers are not there all the time.

    To put sanctions on the area would add one more to the lengthy list of reasons not to play this game anymore.

    If you can't handle fighting in three dimensions you just plain fail as a player and should quit...
    I will not hesitate to beat you over the head with your own stupidity.

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  • Miss_Tika - Lost City
    Miss_Tika - Lost City Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    GMs banned a few people camping (or simply PKing) in Secret Passage for 1 day.

    Really

    Really

    messed upb:bye
  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    This topic has been done before, no GM response on it, and my opinion hasn't changed, so you get a bit of copypasta.
    Honestly? I don't get why PKing in SP would be bannable. It's pretty much a hotspot for PvP action on Sanctuary. No Nix, no tough mobs. Just you, and your group of friends, fighting everyone else. From what I've seen, it's even quite civil. Well, as civil as a group of bloodcrazed individuals can get. b:chuckle Honestly, like people have said. If you're going to ban people for fighting in one of the best areas to fight in the game, just make it a safe zone, so all the QQing noobs that want to whine about being PKed on a PvP server don't get a respectable player banned.

    Way I figure is this. If you're going to ban people on a PvP server for killing each other, how about you ban people on a PvE server for killing mobs? Because since Player Versus Player is a bad thing, shouldn't Player Versus Environment follow the same suit? You don't really see too many people whining about being killed on a PvE server, because anyone stupid enough to turn on PK mode and get pwnt gets laughed at when they whine about it. So how about we do a server switch? Reward people on PvE servers for killing each other, and reward people on a PvP server for killing mobs. Because that seems to be the general idea here.

    You chose the server, you even had the lovely help box pop up when you log into the game for the first time. Why didn't you read it? If you didn't read the help, which told you the difference between PvE, and PvP, then you're still to blame. If you read it, and got killed anyway, you're still to blame. At any time, you had the option to reroll, and you still do. You've even got some nice shiny new classes to try out this winter. Stop your QQing, try a new race on a PvE server, and enjoy the game with a minimal amount of whining to someone else. Although, seems to me, the type that whines about dying is the same that whines about getting KSed as well... So I guess the only alternative is this:
    RAGEQUIT!
    That way, none of us have to deal with you whining about problems that were completely your fault, and completely in your control to deal with.
  • Winddagger - Harshlands
    Winddagger - Harshlands Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    there is only one answer to this problem- leave HL.

    i had started in LC last year, and had the same problem. and also the same problem with the GMs-they dont care. i had reported it, they told me to go get into the situation, and if i got PKed, to at once send a ticket/call them. **no one** ever came. and they never replied to the tickets with the screenshots.

    they just dont care. ganking, boss pulling, you name it, its fine with them on the murder servers. and, to some degree, here as well.

    i hate PK, and think its wrong. so i left everything- lv35 veno with new mount, swan, clothes, new everything, and moved to HeavensTear. here, its only those who are crazy enough to go whitename who get shot, otherwise we are safe here.

    come on over, and be safe and play in a far more relaxed environment.

    Umm My response you....Hell No -.-, PVP Server is one of the best servers there is, More challenging due to the amount of pkers you get during your quests. To find away around them to fight and a way to plan out your next assault...more of a brain game server compaired to PVE

    My question is Did GM's Revoke it or not, cause I dont want to see People get banned * READ THE TEXT* to those who cant read, I said I am concerned about it....I duke it out with pkers who attck me when I am doing a Fb run or helping people with there quests in sp, other then that I don't give a dam half the time, but the Amount of QQ i get from lower levels drives me nuts -.- even when you black list them or turn of chats all you can see is that -.-.

    But If you cant read the god dam text and comprehend what I am trying to imply then go back to school.
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  • Winddagger - Harshlands
    Winddagger - Harshlands Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    GMs banned a few people camping (or simply PKing) in Secret Passage for 1 day.

    Really

    Really

    messed upb:bye

    That makes More Sense, 1 day ban lol...Seems like what they do mostly.....
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I heard that things got pretty bad in there. Like high levels would charge low levels a toll to let them pass safely to the fb. I heard the same thing about volume 29 being camped on WQ and extorting coins to not be pk'd.

    At some point things just get out of hand.
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  • Winddagger - Harshlands
    Winddagger - Harshlands Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I heard that things got pretty bad in there. Like high levels would charge low levels a toll to let them pass safely to the fb. I heard the same thing about volume 29 being camped on WQ and extorting coins to not be pk'd.

    At some point things just get out of hand.

    I heard of those things Happening before, and that is Really ridiculous, And totally our of hand.....That's one of the Issues I want to see gone, cause why should lower players Pay to go through the cave, how do you know they wont just Pk them in the end?

    Majority the Pkers In the Game of Little Kids who have nothing else to do lol and face it it is True.

    But the rest of the Pkers in the Game i have respect for xD, at least there not ****'s after they pk, haha half the time when i get pked , The Pkers Even tell me how I could Improve. Now thats Nice game play, Gives me a challenge to lv up and have a fair fight with them again :)
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  • DarkSniper - Lost City
    DarkSniper - Lost City Posts: 1,830 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    You can be punished for PvPing in a PvP area.


    No more fighting at west gate.
    The only way to win is to quit. b:bye
  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Who. Cares.

    Seriously.
    Oh noes, you can't repeatedly camp a lv30 to disrupt their quests. You have to go pk at one of the billion other ingame areas. Your game is entirely ruined. /sarcasm

    If the inability to purposely make a 3x new player utterly miserable completely spoils your gaming experience then you should not be playing pwi. You should be seeking professional help. For those complaining at it being bannable "QQ maor plz". It's not like you got banned from pk or aren't allowed to fight those your level in sp.
    I heard that things got pretty bad in there. Like high levels would charge low levels a toll to let them pass safely to the fb. I heard the same thing about volume 29 being camped on WQ and extorting coins to not be pk'd.

    At some point things just get out of hand.

    This. Pretty much proves the goal of a lot of those who camp 3x areas is purely to make new players miserable and bully them unmercifully.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Since people in PVP servers seem to want to choose when to PVP, I would suggest PWE turn all PVP servers into PVE servers. That way they would be able to choose when to PVP.

    Than make a special PVP server where you would have to have a character level 80+ on a pve server before you could create an account on the pvp server. Current level 80+s would be allowed to stay on the PVP servers. This special server would have no angels, no bound gear,exp loss on pk death, and 60% chance to drop multiple items. In addition, there would be no safe areas, except for a 2x2 area by respawns/teleports to allow for screen to load.
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  • Winddagger - Harshlands
    Winddagger - Harshlands Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    You can be punished for PvPing in a PvP area.


    No more fighting at west gate.

    How is This Related To the SP, Stick to The Topic >_>
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  • Ascii - Harshlands
    Ascii - Harshlands Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Since people in PVP servers seem to want to choose when to PVP, I would suggest PWE turn all PVP servers into PVE servers. That way they would be able to choose when to PVP.

    Than make a special PVP server where you would have to have a character level 80+ on a pve server before you could create an account on the pvp server. Current level 80+s would be allowed to stay on the PVP servers. This special server would have no angels, no bound gear,exp loss on pk death, and 60% chance to drop multiple items. In addition, there would be no safe areas, except for a 2x2 area by respawns/teleports to allow for screen to load.

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  • DarkSniper - Lost City
    DarkSniper - Lost City Posts: 1,830 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Because like west gate SP is an open PK area.


    That means, anyone above level 30 can kill anyone else above level 30.


    To restrict PvP in SP is the same as restricting PvP anywhere else. When people enter the server they know that it is open PvP, and anyone that doesn't realize they will be killed by people higher level than them should stop playing this game and return to hello kitty island adventure.


    Hold on, let me say this again:

    OPEN PVP MEANS YOU CAN AND WILL BE KILLED BY HIGHER LEVELS.


    Get over it, stop crying, and level up.
    The only way to win is to quit. b:bye
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Since people in PVP servers seem to want to choose when to PVP, I would suggest PWE turn all PVP servers into PVE servers. That way they would be able to choose when to PVP.

    Than make a special PVP server where you would have to have a character level 80+ on a pve server before you could create an account on the pvp server. Current level 80+s would be allowed to stay on the PVP servers. This special server would have no angels, no bound gear,exp loss on pk death, and 60% chance to drop multiple items. In addition, there would be no safe areas, except for a 2x2 area by respawns/teleports to allow for screen to load.

    Don't forget that there are no monsters on this new pvp server. You get exp by killing other players and all equipment MUST be bought from the cash shop since in-game currency does not exist.
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    The ULTIMATE carebear statment ever to have been posted in the forums EVER b:surrender

    Why? Because I pointed to the obvious? Make all servers PVE (you can still go white named and try to kill other players). Make a special PVP server where you have to have a high level character on a PVE server to join. That would stop new players from accidentaly going into the wrong server. Make it so PVP has meaning, as in you loose exp and gear when you get killed, and you gain exp from killing other players, just like they were mobs.
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  • Ascii - Harshlands
    Ascii - Harshlands Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Because like west gate SP is an open PK area.


    That means, anyone above level 30 can kill anyone else above level 30.


    To restrict PvP in SP is the same as restricting PvP anywhere else. When people enter the server they know that it is open PvP, and anyone that doesn't realize they will be killed by people higher level than them should stop playing this game and return to hello kitty island adventure.


    Hold on, let me say this again:

    OPEN PVP MEANS YOU CAN AND WILL BE KILLED BY HIGHER LEVELS.


    Get over it, stop crying, and level up.

    +1

    its just how it happens, these spots are popular for PK becouse people also know they can PPK there. West Gate, Silverpool, Hidden orchid east and sometimes Secret passage are constant spots for PvP on Harshlands.

    to ban PK for a certian area is exactly the same as banning it anywere else. people Joined a PvP Server to PK, they cant expect for the server to let them catch up or anything. would you give someone you want to kill an advantage?
    Well, it would solve all the problems with camping...... You never see this type of threads coming out PVE servers.....

    and no this wouldnt solve the problem atall, this would turn Perfect world into a Player Vs enviroment on all 5 servers. the fun of a PvP server is attacking people and forcing them to fight, thats the whole point of PvP but then again i wouldnt expect you to understand force pk, i assume the only action you get is debuffing catapults in TW or duels :P
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    +1

    its just how it happens, these spots are popular for PK becouse people also know they can PPK there. West Gate, Silverpool, Hidden orchid east and sometimes Secret passage are constant spots for PvP on Harshlands.

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  • Winddagger - Harshlands
    Winddagger - Harshlands Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Since people in PVP servers seem to want to choose when to PVP, I would suggest PWE turn all PVP servers into PVE servers. That way they would be able to choose when to PVP.

    Than make a special PVP server where you would have to have a character level 80+ on a pve server before you could create an account on the pvp server. Current level 80+s would be allowed to stay on the PVP servers. This special server would have no angels, no bound gear, 100% exp losse death, and 60% chance to drop multiple items. In addition, there would be no safe areas, a 2x2 area by respawns/teleports

    That Hardly Seems fair, Should be lv 70+ b:laugh
    the inability to purposely make a 3x new player utterly miserable completely spoils your gaming experience then you should not be playing pwi. You should be seeking professional help. For those complaining at it being bannable "QQ maor plz". It's not like you got banned from pk or aren't allowed to fight those your level in sp.

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    I heard that things got pretty bad in there. Like high levels would charge low levels a toll to let them pass safely to the fb. I heard the same thing about volume 29 being camped on WQ and extorting coins to not be pk'd.

    At some point things just get out of hand.
    This. Pretty much proves the goal of a lot of those who camp 3x areas is purely to make new players miserable and bully them unmercifully.

    Yes that's Ridiculous, they are unmerciful .... and yea just trying to get a point out., Awesome that there is a huge amount of views on this...But anyone else have anymore views
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  • Ascii - Harshlands
    Ascii - Harshlands Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Wraith Attacks and Tempest b:dirtyb:dirtyb:dirty

    damm right, Farming Wraith events and tempesting west gate partys is the best fun b:chuckle

    especially when its something like this
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