Best Classes (ENDGAME)

divineninja
divineninja Posts: 0 Arc User
edited November 2009 in General Discussion
Everyone is too scared to tell what they think the the best classes are, but from what I gather, here is what I got:

http://pwendgame.blogspot.com/


Hahaha, Flame On!!!
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  • Vinat - Sanctuary
    Vinat - Sanctuary Posts: 1,200 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    divineninja wrote: »
    Everyone is too scared to tell what they think the the best classes are, but from what I gather, here is what I got:

    http://pwendgame.blogspot.com/


    Hahaha, Flame On!!!

    lol whoever wrote that is incredibly ignorant

    edit: i suck at typing
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Note: Here's what all the pros do to take away the weakness of close-range half damage: most archers have a fist, just in case, for close combat.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Vinat - Sanctuary wrote: »
    lol whoever wrothe that is incredibly ignorant and a veno

    fixed it for you b:cute

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  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Nakhimov - Lost City wrote: »
    fixed it for you b:cute

    I stopped caring at "+12 gears"

    I agree, sadly, and I'm a Veno... I stopped reading at the typos, misspellings, and all around idiocy. Barb as a bad solo class? LOL. Since Barb + Charm > most things in this game... I'd like to see a squishy take a few hits from Kimsa, anywhere near the range a good barb can solo it.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    divineninja wrote: »
    Everyone is too scared to tell what they think the the best classes are, but from what I gather, here is what I got:

    http://pwendgame.blogspot.com/

    The internet empowers even the stupid people of the world to think they have a valid argument. Proof is in the link. lol
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  • Lulu - Harshlands
    Lulu - Harshlands Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    i am a veno, but it's not entirely true that venos are the best endgame class, well in my opinion, everyone knows the nix bleed is broken and still hurts but with good refined and sharded gear you can tank it, if you can play your class...(endgame depends a lot on refine here anyway)


    its bs to talk about +12 at this point as on HL only one perosn has +12 so far...so i wrote this not having +12 in my mind, idk about the other servers...
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  • Elwyina - Lost City
    Elwyina - Lost City Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    At least he can play the piano b:victory
  • divineninja
    divineninja Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I agree, sadly, and I'm a Veno... I stopped reading at the typos, misspellings, and all around idiocy. Barb as a bad solo class? LOL. Since Barb + Charm > most things in this game... I'd like to see a squishy take a few hits from Kimsa, anywhere near the range a good barb can solo it.

    You won't be squishy if you have +12 gear or wear robes and equip +def accessories or be heavy, turn into a fox when you are being attacked by a melee class, etc. So many ways not to be squishy. You can remove some of the barb's hp. Veno's beat barbs played correctly.

    And btw, I have an archer tyvm. Just from my experience at level 100+ I think the veno is the better class that's all.
  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    divineninja wrote: »
    You won't be squishy if you have +12 gear or wear robes and equip +def accessories or be heavy, turn into a fox when you are being attacked by a melee class, etc. So many ways not to be squishy. You can remove some of the barb's hp. Veno's beat barbs played correctly.

    And btw, I have an archer tyvm. Just from my experience at level 100+ I think the veno is the better class that's all.

    I play a heavy wizard alt. Still not gonna tank anywhere near a barb. And +12 gears? Again, Barbs are still better. This is coming from a Veno. From what I've seen? Barbs are purely the best endgame class. PvP, they're unstoppable without a group taking them on, PvE, they can tank almost anything. Yeah, the Herc can tank a ton of things, but a debuff boss isn't possible, something a barb can't do, and a long range AoE takes them out too. Barb > Veno. Period.
  • darkwhispers
    darkwhispers Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    The thing with barbs is that they can stun you like there is seriously no tomorrow, and I really get scared by all those stuns, but after the stun, they don't do very much damage.

    .. Did you somehow confuse barbarians with blademasters? Barbs only have 1 main stun (not including the lame 79 1 sec stun)
  • divineninja
    divineninja Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I play a heavy wizard alt. Still not gonna tank anywhere near a barb. And +12 gears? Again, Barbs are still better. This is coming from a Veno. From what I've seen? Barbs are purely the best endgame class. PvP, they're unstoppable without a group taking them on, PvE, they can tank almost anything. Yeah, the Herc can tank a ton of things, but a debuff boss isn't possible, something a barb can't do, and a long range AoE takes them out too. Barb > Veno. Period.

    Ok, you just repeated what I said. Barbs are meant to tank.

    Heavy wizard? That's um...very interesting. So you have a huge amount of def and little mag def? what about your attack?

    anyways, barb is the best tanking class hands down. As far as killing other people, they don't have the same kind of attack power the other classes have. Can't be killed, can't kill (not including people lower level than you of course). At the max level 150, it takes 3 people to kill a barb, but the barb kills no one that has balanced gear. Of course you can kill a class if they have a weakness, but at endgame, everyone would rather have balanced defenses rather than a lot of one defense and not the other.
  • divineninja
    divineninja Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    darkwhispers wrote: »
    .. Did you somehow confuse barbarians with blademasters? Barbs only have 1 main stun (not including the lame 79 1 sec stun)

    Well, their rank 8 weapon has a chance to stun for 3 seconds. Just their regular attacks alone stun a decent amount of the time.
  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    divineninja wrote: »
    Ok, you just repeated what I said. Barbs are meant to tank.

    Heavy wizard? That's um...very interesting. So you have a huge amount of def and little mag def? what about your attack?

    anyways, barb is the best tanking class hands down. As far as killing other people, they don't have the same kind of attack power the other classes have. Can't be killed, can't kill (not including people lower level than you of course). At the max level 150, it takes 3 people to kill a barb, but the barb kills no one that has balanced gear. Of course you can kill a class if they have a weakness, but at endgame, everyone would rather have balanced defenses rather than a lot of one defense and not the other.

    Exactly. Then why are barbs the worst class? You say a Barb can't kill. Have you faced Demon Barbs? They have the Attack power of a normal form barb, and the Defense and HP of the Tiger. They're not as weak as people say. They get ahold of a Veno, or Archer alone, and it's lunch time. Nix, or no, a charmed barb with good pots beats a charmed Veno with good pots, and same with an Archer. And if that same Barb gets ahold of a Wizard? Loooooong channeling time, which is stopped by Alacrity.

    Also, my HA wizard wears AA as well, and has the same magic power as an LA Wizard with more defense, more magic defense, and more HP. And I can put + Mag or Channeling on my Robes, and + Str/Dex on my HA to equip my gears. I only die when I make the mistake of having the wrong gear for the job... Like earlier today, when I aggroed 3 melee mobs. Was going good, until I realized... I'm wearing my robes.

    And a sidenote? Endgame is 105, not 150 yet.
  • White_Puma - Lost City
    White_Puma - Lost City Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    The person with better refined gear that knows their class, and takes advantage of their genie skills wins. I recently went from axe to fist/sword bm, and I pk alot better. I refined all my hh70 gear a little bit, got at least 2 sockets on each piece, and I kick ****. I havn't met anybody that even hurts me yet. People who kite annoy me, but I still have skills that easily take them. And at 79, when a bm gets smack, thats another high-hitting bm ranged skill to take out kiters that much faster.
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    funny guide b:pleased
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  • divineninja
    divineninja Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    funny guide b:pleased

    Which part?b:thanks
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    divineninja wrote: »
    Which part?b:thanks
    why everything b:pleased
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  • Celric - Heavens Tear
    Celric - Heavens Tear Posts: 124 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    LoL this is so fail.
    Veno then cleric.
    Clerics own all. Just need to play it right.
    Veno because of the overpowered extortionists of everyone's money. Also the fastest moving class with better attribute stats then most, fox form, LA builds. Dont forget. Pouring money into Glitched phoenix that will never be fixed because they'll lose money. (Flesh realm was even changed to 100% chance if you noticed.)

    Clerics because they simply kick ****. If you know how to play right that is. Can beat anybody except a barb w/ 20k hp. Sometimes a BM or Archer may be very good too. or overpowered. (This also changed thanks to the constant *Extorting of peoples money.* People w/ cash [ak daddies credit card] get the best armor/weapons now. Not the people who put their time into this game.)
    Now to watch this post get deleted or me banned for revealing their most obvious plans. zomg! end of the world :o
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  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Dear divineninja,

    You are either
    1. An idiot
    2. Really lvl 40 and gotten killed by lots of nixes
    3. A bad troll.
    4. All of the above.


    Also, HI ELWY! b:bye
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  • _malkavian_ - Dreamweaver
    _malkavian_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    hmm i will say that atm wizzards are the best endgame class ( and the hardest to play D: !! ) BUT we will see if this change with the tideborns ;D
  • DarkSniper - Lost City
    DarkSniper - Lost City Posts: 1,830 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Archers and Barbarians are just not meant to fight each other. Barbs miss archers a lot as well as when they hit, they don't do much damage to an archer. Now, for the archer, physical attacks do approximately negative damage to a barb, so the only option is metal attacks, maybe your one wood attack, but that's it. With such a huge hp pool, you can't kill a barb within the 10 second heiro tick. I doubt even with level 3 fury burst due to cooldown of the attacks.

    Its a good thing I leveled my wood attack.
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  • Paigrande - Harshlands
    Paigrande - Harshlands Posts: 777 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    lol barbs cant kill what? thats all bullshyt!! With a skill like perdition barbs can kill everything except from BMs nd prob venos, rest is all too easy to solo kill.
    My list in the best solo pvp classes at endgame would b like this:
    1-venos
    2-wizards
    3-barbarians
    4-cleric (really hard to tell between barbs nd clerics which one is the best at solo pvp)
    5-Archers
    6-BMs
    Archers nd BMs would come after barb, cleric nd wizard cuz although they are good they lack the self healing abbility nd things like sleep nd buffs from cleric, they lack the high HP nd one of the hardest hitting skill in-game called perdition (armaggedon) nd they lack the abbility to nuke other classes with high dmg which the wizards hav.
    Only thing I hav to aggree is in the grinding, barbs surely r the worst class there.

    P.S. This list is the best imo but that doesnt mean alot of things in-game, it all is up to how good u play your class to decide on how that list looks like... That list is based on pvp fights I had, skills descriptions, etc, I might b wrong cuz im not even lvl105 or hav fought ppl with +12 in everthing so no1 can really say how strong the classes would b with everything +12 nd best gears ever at max with every skill cuz that would b only theory... All I can say is that my list is based on ppl at lvl range of 89-99.
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  • DarkSniper - Lost City
    DarkSniper - Lost City Posts: 1,830 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I refuse to listen to a person who cannot even spell "and"
    The only way to win is to quit. b:bye
  • Shinsen - Lost City
    Shinsen - Lost City Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    best end-game class ? There is no such thing. In every game that i've played ppl always argue what class is the best - and time to time the best end-game class always change - for etc. lets say most agree that now wizards are the best, after few month all will agree that BMs are better, later on venos and etc. Well you know what i mean.
    I would say its all about the gear (good gear+refines more then +5) and knowledge of the player (if u know how to use ur class - you are way better then the one who just spams "hit" button all day long)
  • Neomccoy - Heavens Tear
    Neomccoy - Heavens Tear Posts: 184 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Pure int mage is the best damage dealer come end game.
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  • Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary
    Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Honestly, you can't compare classes very well.
    There is only 1 real thing that makes one better than another: skill.
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Wizard with end game gear is practically unbeatable. If he knows how to play and not stand just on 1 spot.b:chuckle
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Well, jeez! Damn barbs and their fearsome stunlocks. Why can't we do that...
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I would say this is no best class as they are are all good at doing the roles they do.

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  • Malei - Sanctuary
    Malei - Sanctuary Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Sorry babe. I gotta say Wizzie in this one.

    +12 everything? Maxed skills, including the Sage/Demon? That plus the kiting means anything close is not touching that bad boy. A nix tries to come down and hit it? One Water Dragon crit on the chicken[I imagine it to be around...eh..let's say 35k dmg? XD], and move on to take the little lady out. A barb trying to run on you? Slow his ****. Stun. Seal. Move back. That range is crazy.

    You seal an archer? They can't do anything. Seal, stun. Nuke.

    I imagine a Wizard to be one insane powerhouse.

    Though, I lovd your guide. It was so funny xD
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