whats are main role in tt

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  • Devilmages - Sanctuary
    Devilmages - Sanctuary Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    be friend with a veno, tell her to farm all the mats u need.
    U farm herbs, high/medium mats speculate some AH and trade in Archos and u will make the money u need to buy the mats.
    Veno's going to be pleased to have someone to sell the mats to for sure, u are going to be pleased having whatever u need for TT equips/wpn.
    My advice, TT equip is **** until TT90, you're better off using legendary and 3* with way better stats and way cheaper.

    thanks that helped alot :D cause not much people want us :(
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    not for TT, true.
    get in a good guild, and u will do a lot of runs.
    otherwise, find smart ways to make cash and buy what u need.
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    the fun think is i didnt even told they do that dmg on TT bosses b:chuckle

    i just mean the dmg beetwen archers and wizard in my personal knowledge and if the reducion % is the same for arch and for wiz...wiz still deal more dmgb:bye
    So you basically don't know anything about damage in general, rather than TT only.


    Your grammar and spelling make my eyes bleed, btw.
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  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    the fun think is i didnt even told they do that dmg on TT bosses b:chuckle

    i just mean the dmg beetwen archers and wizard in my personal knowledge and if the reducion % is the same for arch and for wiz...wiz still deal more dmgb:bye

    Archers dps is better then Wizard also if you havent noticed they got this skill called Sharpened Tooth Arrow and it reduces max HP of target by 16% at lvl 10. Wizard dont have a skill to take away 16% hp of a boss that is why archers make a better dd in TT. Just make friends or have a good guild and u should never really have a problem finding a TT run that u need as a Wizard.
  • Rinnve - Lost City
    Rinnve - Lost City Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    - Yes, archers have higher DPS in HH even with normal shots. Even if what you said is true damage-wise, an archer still shoots fast enough with a much higher critrate to **** your DPS.
    ****? No. Difference is about 10-20%, may be less depending on equipment.
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    - No, a skill spamming archer will not steal agro on a TT boss, what are you talking about?
    I'm talking about crits. Skill spamming will lead to several skill crits in a row sooner or later. And yes, this steals agro pretty good.
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    - I never said tanking, I said tanking skills. Winged Shell, Wings of Grace. Means the tank doesn't have to run after the boss chasing the wizard trying to blink away
    Genies FTW. Also, good wizard always blinks TO tank, not from him.
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    - Speed + evasion > pathetic damage boost which only works on melee attacks
    Lolwut? 0.1 m/s (or whatever) does not makes boss die faster. Evasion does not works, bosses usually have very high accuracy. On the other hand, "pathetic" +10-15% damage of ALL melee fighters AND archers (yes, it works for archers too) will help kill boss faster. This buff is not very important, that's right, but it is clearly much more useful pve-wise.
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  • Moog - Lost City
    Moog - Lost City Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    We don't have a real role in TT, hence why we aren't wanted. Just a weak Damage Dealer. Veno's/Archers are better DDs.

    this.. mages unite in our QQ
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    i do all my TT runs with my personal veno slave
    muwahahahahahab:laugh
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    _makina_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Archers dps is better then Wizard also if you havent noticed they got this skill called Sharpened Tooth Arrow and it reduces max HP of target by 16% at lvl 10. Wizard dont have a skill to take away 16% hp of a boss that is why archers make a better dd in TT. Just make friends or have a good guild and u should never really have a problem finding a TT run that u need as a Wizard.

    well, maybe that 16% make archers better on boss, but i still think wiz does more dmg and more dmg per sec, i mean wihtout count of -16% hp archer skill
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  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    well, maybe that 16% make archers better on boss, but i still think wiz does more dmg and more dmg per sec, i mean wihtout count of -16% hp archer skill

    So you want to disregard a skill cause it disproves your point about wiz doing just as much/more dps?
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    lol, seems like it b:chuckle.
    Anyway, wizard role in TT is pretty much limited. Truth is the wizard, as archer and BM and sometimes veno have no use in certain instances if u want to put it like that. The only classes that are really needed are barbs and clerics, what DD u have is only a matter of option.
    That 16% of a boss HP matters if u make 10-20 TTs a day, if you're up for 1, 2 , 3 runs who the F cares about those 3 minutes more that will take u to kill that [?] boss. We all talk like the runs we do are against the clock, no chat, no one going afk for washroom issues or whatever else. Yeah, in the perfect situation when everything goes like clockwork, no one types anything, no chatting or jokes on vent, just do TT like a robot yes, you're better off with an archer. Any other sittuation just be sure u have the main classes are you're all set.
    Remember, it's only a game. Have fun first of all.
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  • Levoden - Heavens Tear
    Levoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I haven't really had a problem getting into a TT run.

    I think it matters more on how many people know you and the faction you're in instead of what class you are.

    Normally an archer clan member and I start getting a squad together and try finding Venos/Clerics/Tanks instead of joining squads that are almost full.

    But yeah, archer is a better DD in TT than wiz around my level. By the looks of it, it's the same thing at higher levels.
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Rinnve - Lost City wrote: »
    ****? No. Difference is about 10-20%, may be less depending on equipment.

    I'm talking about crits. Skill spamming will lead to several skill crits in a row sooner or later. And yes, this steals agro pretty good.

    Genies FTW. Also, good wizard always blinks TO tank, not from him

    Lolwut? 0.1 m/s (or whatever) does not makes boss die faster. Evasion does not works, bosses usually have very high accuracy. On the other hand, "pathetic" +10-15% damage of ALL melee fighters AND archers (yes, it works for archers too) will help kill boss faster. This buff is not very important, that's right, but it is clearly much more useful pve-wise.
    - Lol, 10-20%. That's considered ****, yes.

    - Skill spamming in TT will not steal agro no matter how hard you try, unless the barb/herc are far below the level of the archer, in which case I'd have to ask.. what the hell were you trying to do?

    - Have fun blinking towards the boss too, then. Not sure what TTs you've been in, but if you blink towards the tank you're going to die. Pretty much every boss in 2-3 and 3-1, the most commonly done TTs, will kill you in 1-3 hits.

    - It helps in the run itself. And no, the wizard buff does not make that much difference, too bad.
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Cholla - Harshlands wrote: »
    I think this would only be true if you were taking damage?

    b:chuckle
    Are you really this dumb or are you pretending? Ever considered the chance of the tank dying for whatever reason?
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  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    _makina_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So you want to disregard a skill cause it disproves your point about wiz doing just as much/more dps?

    i just want to tell that on my personal view of the game, i always see archers killing mobs slower than me and wiht same gear/same lv

    and seeing wiz become even stronger later wiht -channel/uper masterys and good refined weapons they should pwn a archer in dmg easly even if the arch have a good crit and a strog weapon
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  • Dalamaar - Heavens Tear
    Dalamaar - Heavens Tear Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    lol.. another 5x. I'm not even going to bother responding to your post. Even triple sparked, my gush damage on TT bosses doesn't reach 5000 without a crit. Mage's spark eruption isn't stronger at 89+ either. Yes, Archer > Wizard for DDing. And nobody uses Undine Strike in TT, you're an idiot.

    Wow you are the idiot man.. wtf.. no one uses undine strike in TT? well I do and making more then 5000 damage on bosses and highest crit was in the 16k's, yes the (?) bosses, on a regular basis.. Dont listen to this guy, if you do you'll end up a weak mage like him..

    Usually I wouldnt call anyone an idiot but this guy thinks he knows more then anyone and doesn't mind calling names in the process. I know I know more then him if he thinks 5k is ungodly in TT.
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Dalamaar - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Wow you are the idiot man.. wtf.. no one uses undine strike in TT? well I do and making more then 5000 damage on bosses and highest crit was in the 16k's, yes the (?) bosses, on a regular basis.. Dont listen to this guy, if you do you'll end up a weak mage like him..

    Usually I wouldnt call anyone an idiot but this guy thinks he knows more then anyone and doesn't mind calling names in the process. I know I know more then him if he thinks 5k is ungodly in TT.
    Screenshot please, before I'm going to assume you bought your account.
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    Screenshot please, before I'm going to assume you bought your account.

    LOL at this ^

    perfect TT squad
    barbarian
    cleric
    cleric
    wizard
    archer
    venomancer/blademaster/wizard/archer

    fastest TT run ever
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Veno
    Veno
    Veno
    Veno
    Veno
    Veno

    ^Fastest run, but you can't do all the bosses QQ
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  • BrownflameZ - Lost City
    BrownflameZ - Lost City Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Devilmages - Sanctuary wrote: »
    like the title whats are main purpose and why doesent anyone want us btw whats are main role in pwi anyways everyones got one except us besides pk but thats not to much of a role as tanking and stuff

    Meat Sheild; Getting One Shotted; Slowing down the Party; Getting aggro (and getting one Shotted) from mobs or stupid tanks that go afk in the middle of killing a boss; Getting Out DD'd by a Archer/Replaced by one; Being absolutely **** by every AOE; Giving **** buffs that looks cool but is in-fact is ****; Did I mention Meat Shield?
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    Veno
    Veno
    Veno
    Veno
    Veno
    Veno

    ^Fastest run, but you can't do all the bosses QQ

    why do they cant do all boss?
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  • BrownflameZ - Lost City
    BrownflameZ - Lost City Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    why do they cant do all boss?

    Why can't they do all the bosses? *

    Cause a herc simply cant sustain damage from every boss in squad mode. Like Forshura and Ape for example. Unless you have multiple healers healing that one herc, even then not sure how well that would work with Ape Squad mode.
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    BrownflameZ - Lost City wrote: »
    Why can't they do all the bosses? *

    Cause a herc simply cant sustain damage from every boss in squad mode. Like Forshura and Ape for example. Unless you have multiple healers healing that one herc, even then not sure how well that would work with Ape Squad mode.

    ^^ It can work ^^

    With 2 venos and both of them purging and healing = rather smooth.

    I have been on a 2-3 with 2 venos (9x and high 8x) and we were able to do every boss (minus Ancient Evil of course...lol).


    Oh and one more thing: BrownflameZ on forums b:pleased
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    And depending on the veno's, they might not be able to tank certain AOE bosses.


    Forshura could be done if 2 or 3 veno's had lightning chaser.
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  • BrownflameZ - Lost City
    BrownflameZ - Lost City Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    ^^ It can work ^^

    With 2 venos and both of them purging and healing = rather smooth.

    I have been on a 2-3 with 2 venos (9x and high 8x) and we were able to do every boss (minus Ancient Evil of course...lol).


    Oh and one more thing: BrownflameZ on forums b:pleased

    Oh hey hun :D
    gtfo Wizard forums you damn elf ! :P
    But ya, solo a veno cant do every boss but with a healer I suppose they can (never tried it :D).
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    BrownflameZ - Lost City wrote: »
    Oh hey hun :D
    gtfo Wizard forums you damn elf ! :P
    But ya, solo a veno cant do every boss but with a healer I suppose they can (never tried it :D).

    ^^ QFT ^^

    And FYI ---> I like to Ninja the Wizzy threads b:cute

    b:bye
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  • BrownflameZ - Lost City
    BrownflameZ - Lost City Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    ^^ QFT ^^

    And FYI ---> I like to Ninja the Wizzy threads b:cute

    b:bye

    >:O ima ninja your EP threads and violate jooooh b:kissb:laugh
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    BrownflameZ - Lost City wrote: »
    >:O ima ninja your EP threads and violate jooooh b:kissb:laugh

    b:dirty

    See you there.....

    Oh and LOL at some of these posts!!!! I am not a Wizzy and I am laughing at how some people are just clueless!!!

    b:bye
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    Veno
    Veno
    Veno
    Veno
    Veno
    Veno

    ^Fastest run, but you can't do all the bosses QQ

    i liked my squad better >_>
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • BrownflameZ - Lost City
    BrownflameZ - Lost City Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i liked my squad better >_>

    Level 90 wins, and Kris is smexy b:cute

    @Rose

    I know eh? Lowbies these days :)
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    BrownflameZ - Lost City wrote: »
    Level 90 wins, and Kris is smexy b:cute

    @Rose

    I know eh? Lowbies these days :)

    b:sweat (at both of the above)
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