How do Wizards earn money?

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CWdeWizard - Heavens Tear
CWdeWizard - Heavens Tear Posts: 12 Arc User
edited September 2009 in Wizard
Dear all,

I was wondering how can Wizards earn fast money? Grind is a choice but it is proven to be quite a slow one. TT mats are decreasing in prices soon.

SO, anyone that have ideas, feel free to post them here b:laugh

I was thinking of max BIDS or Blade tempest and do what clerics do, lure a bunch and aoe them. However, we can't tank as much as cleric can, so the mobs we find must be able to be killed by 1 AOE, is that possible?

P.S. anyone have mage damage calculator?
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  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    1.Grind
    2.Mat farm
    3.TT
    4.Guild Salary
    5.PK drops
    6.Buy low sell high
    7.AFK cat shopping on a 2nd comp*
    8.Charge Zhen
    Quit.
  • Mizorie - Lost City
    Mizorie - Lost City Posts: 598 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    i am a escort.
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    Dalamaar: Mizorie you have no soul.
  • CeliaZ - Sanctuary
    CeliaZ - Sanctuary Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Mizorie - Lost City wrote: »
    i am a escort.

    [offtopic] Mizorie your signature is beautifull! Is that actually your character? Cause then your character is beautifull too b:pleased

    [ontopic] I have the same money making problem. It seems they have lowered the droprate of dq items, as only 1 out of 5 mobs gives something these days, which is about 50k an hour. Not much.
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  • Devilmages - Sanctuary
    Devilmages - Sanctuary Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    funny i make about a 100k wihtout trying
    i like pie
  • Mizorie - Lost City
    Mizorie - Lost City Posts: 598 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    CeliaZ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    [offtopic] Mizorie your signature is beautifull! Is that actually your character? Cause then your character is beautifull too b:pleased

    Thank you, No this is not my character its a real person, with a photoshop makeover, but its modeled after my ingame character, bring green hair lips eyes.

    I'll be sure to send your praise to the creator of it :) b:cute
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    Dalamaar: Mizorie you have no soul.
  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    A cheating way for a wizard to make money is to use a veno alt, boring but they are low maintenance.
    Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.

    Send me a mail if you wanna ask/request anything

    Sanctuary's retired king of wizards alongside queen Saintblu.
  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Witchburner - Sanctuary wrote: »
    A cheating way for a wizard to make money is to use a veno alt, boring but they are low maintenance.
    I began to lose interest once the veno reaches 3x
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  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    lol same. Gotta bring home the bacon somehow.
    Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.

    Send me a mail if you wanna ask/request anything

    Sanctuary's retired king of wizards alongside queen Saintblu.
  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Witchburner - Sanctuary wrote: »
    lol same. Gotta bring home the bacon somehow.
    I prefer farming mats, getting 1mil in around 4hrs is better the grinding 100k in 1hr.
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  • CWdeWizard - Heavens Tear
    CWdeWizard - Heavens Tear Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Fireblood - Harshlands wrote: »
    1.Grind
    2.Mat farm
    3.TT
    4.Guild Salary
    5.PK drops
    6.Buy low sell high
    7.AFK cat shopping on a 2nd comp*
    8.Charge Zhen

    In respose:
    1. take long
    2. spend time running around, good idea though
    3. Wizards are less demand as a DD now
    4. Best idea LOL but need a good guild
    5. We are too squishy
    6.Hard to find low price items
    7. What do we have to sell?
    8. I am poor TT
  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    CWdeWizard - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    In respose:
    1. take long True I don't recommend it, the 100k i grind in 1hr goes to buying exp scrolls for the next 1hr rofl
    2. spend time running around, good idea though It's the fastest way 1mil in 4hrs is a good deal and you can pick up herbs to make tw/pk pots.
    3. Wizards are less demand as a DD now yep but you could get in on some guild TT runs (my guild has TT day so i can get some nice mats then)
    4. Best idea LOL but need a good guild mhm i get 1.5mil per week
    5. We are too squishy lol LA ftw then although you're on a PvE server so forget this one.
    6.Hard to find low price items check around AH you can get plenty of stuff fairly cheap
    7. What do we have to sell? mats that drop from mobs aka rough fur,purified oil,con glue etc buy them low most newbs will sell them to you, and then sell them according to server price.
    8. I am poor TT same here, i have never charged zhenb:surrender
    Response in redb:cute
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  • Devisionx - Sanctuary
    Devisionx - Sanctuary Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Agree, farming is best. Making ultimate substances is the best way, I think. Tried making fb69 wines, but very hard to sell them. (better cash, though.)
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Cholla - Harshlands wrote: »
    If I was your level and I wanted to be making money fast, I would be doing rebirth gammas.

    rebirths are great... makes some decent coins and amazing experience... but if you were trying to save up for your 90 gear, you'd rush through to 86 so fast, that you would have almost nothing saved up :( (30% exp in rebirth might make you like 500k coins, while 5% of grinding could make you those same coins... so if you were to grind more, when you go to 90 you'd have more coins saved up) I'd still do the rebirth, but just realize you may not have your 90 gear right when you hit 90 :P
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  • CeliaZ - Sanctuary
    CeliaZ - Sanctuary Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Adroit - Lost City wrote: »
    rebirths are great... makes some decent coins and amazing experience... but if you were trying to save up for your 90 gear, you'd rush through to 86 so fast, that you would have almost nothing saved up :( (30% exp in rebirth might make you like 500k coins, while 5% of grinding could make you those same coins... so if you were to grind more, when you go to 90 you'd have more coins saved up) I'd still do the rebirth, but just realize you may not have your 90 gear right when you hit 90 :P

    Thats why some people make genies at lvl 85, and just repeat rb as long as they like to get money :) You can even sell the genies that have good lucky points.
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Don't stick around at 85 for too long, not worth the loss in exp, unless you're trying to raise a good genie. I get 250-300k per hour of grinding at 90. I got 200k+ at 89 at Ossaur Cavalries. And I'm pretty lazy when it comes to grinding when it's not for exp, so it could easily be more, I'm sure.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Jonnykins - Dreamweaver
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Half a day grinding gets me like 500k
  • Calliope - Heavens Tear
    Calliope - Heavens Tear Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    CWdeWizard - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    6.Hard to find low price items
    Are you serious? Jolly Jones is running right now, and will continue until the 11th. You're on Heaven's Tear as well, I know pots and oracles are cheap right now, and I can guarantee that they will go up in value once the event ends. It won't be as extreme as last time, but there's plenty of profit to be made.

    You can buy the items cheaply from players, or just buy gold and buy GAs. Either way whatever you end up with will go up in value in the next few weeks, and go up more in the next few months.

    Alternatively, 1* dragon orbs are on sale. Buy some gold, buy orbs with it. Their price will go back up after the sale, and you can make a nice profit.

    Hard to find low priced items? When PWI has multiple sales every week? There's no need to look around for bargains, they're right in front of your face.
  • ArcAzrael - Sanctuary
    ArcAzrael - Sanctuary Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    CeliaZ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Thats why some people make genies at lvl 85, and just repeat rb as long as they like to get money :) You can even sell the genies that have good lucky points.

    Amen to that CZb:victory its been 2 months since i reached lvl85 and camping RB gamma, i managed to make 3 Gold Genies(sold 3 for 4m/ea), lvl80 genie exp cubes(around 11?)= can be sold for 1m-2m..

    ..well then again, it all depends on your luck at making genies and finding those easy to please buyersb:chuckle

    oh ye btw, doing RB Gamma is also a good way to save up SP and max out your skills ^_^ before reaching lv89 skills
  • BrownflameZ - Lost City
    BrownflameZ - Lost City Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Fireblood - Harshlands wrote: »
    1.Grind
    2.Mat farm
    3.TT
    4.Guild Salary
    5.PK drops
    6.Buy low sell high
    7.AFK cat shopping on a 2nd comp*
    8.Charge Zhen

    1.Grind
    2.Mat farm
    3.TT
    4.Guild Salary
    5.PK drops
    6.Buy low sell high
    7.AFK cat shopping on a 2nd comp*
    8.Charge Zhen
    9. Sucking on GMs <-- foe real hommie.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    BrownflameZ - Lost City wrote: »
    1.Grind
    2.Mat farm
    3.TT
    4.Guild Salary
    5.PK drops
    6.Buy low sell high
    7.AFK cat shopping on a 2nd comp*
    8.Charge Zhen
    9. Sucking on GMs <-- foe real hommie.

    what he said ^
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Kannone - Heavens Tear
    Kannone - Heavens Tear Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    BrownflameZ - Lost City wrote: »
    1.Grind
    2.Mat farm
    3.TT
    4.Guild Salary
    5.PK drops
    6.Buy low sell high
    7.AFK cat shopping on a 2nd comp*
    8.Charge Zhen
    9. Sucking on GMs <-- foe real hommie.

    That list is totally backwards o.O
  • CWdeWizard - Heavens Tear
    CWdeWizard - Heavens Tear Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Thanks all for the advices. Let me share what i have learn so far.

    Rebirth:
    It really does help me a lot. Rebirth Gamma do help but the problem is it is always hard to find party. I have a fix party but to get 6 online together at the same time prove to be a problem too, all of us are from different timezones.
    I manage to complete rebirth once and i had about 400k-500k profit! good choice now.
    Grinding:
    Guess i will try that on slow mobs like seaspray. I was hoping of a faster way lol(you can say that i am asking for too much b:shutup). when i see BM does the aoe grinding and all the mats just drop on the floor in front of them makes me dam tempted haha.
    Personal Experience: Tried at Pirate zhen spot lure about 6 and did my lvl 4 BIDS on them. Managed to hit them all to 60%health but they came for me and i have to run away lol. Was wondering if i should pump up my BIDS for aoe grinding?
    Mats farming:
    Best idea now. With bounty hunter coming in all the prices of the mats goes very high. Farming mats for a living is good.
    TT:
    Heard that it is not a good idea now, all mats are dropping prices. I heard that its because there are more and more high levels and high level instances is easier to be done, thus TTmats rarity drop, so does it's price. I think it is not worth doing now.

    In conclusion: With friends, it is easier to form squads to make money
  • CeliaZ - Sanctuary
    CeliaZ - Sanctuary Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    CWdeWizard - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Thanks all for the advices. Let me share what i have learn so far.

    Rebirth:
    It really does help me a lot. Rebirth Gamma do help but the problem is it is always hard to find party. I have a fix party but to get 6 online together at the same time prove to be a problem too, all of us are from different timezones.
    I manage to complete rebirth once and i had about 400k-500k profit! good choice now.
    Grinding:
    Guess i will try that on slow mobs like seaspray. I was hoping of a faster way lol(you can say that i am asking for too much b:shutup). when i see BM does the aoe grinding and all the mats just drop on the floor in front of them makes me dam tempted haha.
    Personal Experience: Tried at Pirate zhen spot lure about 6 and did my lvl 4 BIDS on them. Managed to hit them all to 60%health but they came for me and i have to run away lol. Was wondering if i should pump up my BIDS for aoe grinding?
    Mats farming:
    Best idea now. With bounty hunter coming in all the prices of the mats goes very high. Farming mats for a living is good.
    TT:
    Heard that it is not a good idea now, all mats are dropping prices. I heard that its because there are more and more high levels and high level instances is easier to be done, thus TTmats rarity drop, so does it's price. I think it is not worth doing now.

    In conclusion: With friends, it is easier to form squads to make money

    Allthough the dragon zhen sounds very cool, its not practical because the pirates will be lower level= lower droprate... I think you (and me too of course:) ) will soon hit the level to do efficient water mobs level 87 and 88 that swim around 1k and the lake west of broken plains. Wizardss can kill them fast and easy, which is a nice way to get some drops. But mat farming is indeed the best way now, though I dont like it (I forget where they are always:O)
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  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    whats better grind for dq items or run around santuary for maths?
    im out of money b:shocked
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  • Kannone - Heavens Tear
    Kannone - Heavens Tear Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    make more money gathering mats lately; drop rates seemed suckish the last time i bothered grinding for coins.

    Heck; it's probably better to just beg with a cute female alt that has a nice feminine name...
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Kannone - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    make more money gathering mats lately; drop rates seemed suckish the last time i bothered grinding for coins.

    Heck; it's probably better to just beg with a cute female alt that has a nice feminine name...

    well are u sure becuz gathering mats is so boring and takes time too if u dotn have a good aerocraft or mount....
    anyway DQ items are nice becuz i kill mobs rly fast but sometimes we are killing for long wihtout get anything other the mob drops 2 DQ at once, anyway it waste mp pots/charm
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  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Mat farming altho slow can net more cash the grinding.
    I make like a lil over 110k per hour grinding, so in 4hrs it's 440k.
    However in 4hrs of mat farming (no distraction no nothing) i can make a lil over 1mil.
    Quit.
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Fireblood - Harshlands wrote: »
    Mat farming altho slow can net more cash the grinding.
    I make like a lil over 110k per hour grinding, so in 4hrs it's 440k.
    However in 4hrs of mat farming (no distraction no nothing) i can make a lil over 1mil.

    1kk in 4 hours seems too much
    u farm what 250 fine lumbers/steel/or whatever to do 1kk?
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  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    1kk in 4 hours seems too much
    u farm what 250 fine lumbers/steel/or whatever to do 1kk?
    100+ mid mats
    and about 20-40 high mats given Harshland server prices it's worth over 1mil.
    Quit.
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited August 2009
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    Fireblood - Harshlands wrote: »
    100+ mid mats
    and about 20-40 high mats given Harshland server prices it's worth over 1mil.


    ok i will test it asap
    btw, what is ur mount?
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