why are pve players called carebears?

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  • Lifeup - Heavens Tear
    Lifeup - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    because gummi bears were taken?
  • Asgenar - Lost City
    Asgenar - Lost City Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    @Asgenar, your comments are inaccurate for many reason, ill just name few ;p.
    We have TW, and unless we have a buff added thats called carebeare, no really difference eh.

    Equipment shards,builds wtf? Builds on PvE and PvP are same lols, just check the forums and see high lv Pkers builds i really cant tell apart.
    Shards, again its not down to PvP skill its down to good judgment.


    TW isn't the same as real pk since you'll be decked out in pk pots, always be in squads pking together, you will most likely zerg...these scenarios will most likely only happen in TWs. Another thing, archers zhen in tw but not in real pk. If you can't tell that Tw and real pking result in different strategies and roles for some classes, then I can't help you.. there's so much more I can say.

    Another thing, builds matter a lot such as the ornaments you carry around for pking, the TYPE of shards you put in and the attributes you look to get.
  • Drmelvin - Heavens Tear
    Drmelvin - Heavens Tear Posts: 258 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Tigriss - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yet again peoples AVI may say a PVE Server. That in no way means they don't also play on one or both of the PVP servers.

    Im not saying they dont but it is what i have noticed. PVP server players generally call PVE server players carebears because they are on a PVE server b:surrender
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Asgenar - Lost City wrote: »
    TW isn't the same as real pk since you'll be decked out in pk pots, always be in squads pking together, you will most likely zerg...these scenarios will most likely only happen in TWs. Another thing, archers zhen in tw but not in real pk. If you can't tell that Tw and real pking result in different strategies and roles for some classes, then I can't help you.. there's so much more I can say.

    Another thing, builds matter a lot such as the ornaments you carry around for pking, the TYPE of shards you put in and the attributes you look to get.

    Real Pk, now please enlighten me, didnt see a real Pk in PWi ever. *your expectation is that i dont play on PvP server...wrong lol.

    Again shards, its more to do with your common sense then PvP.

    So it only comes down to, we at PvE like drama free fun, unlike "pro" Pkers who have to prove them selfs and thus calling others carebears and QQing all the times.


    b:shy---> see even the forum is for us lol
    b:dirty
  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Yes it is an art to hunt down lvl 30s when u r 80 crash zhens


    On the PvE server we have the most knowledge about PKing because well when we PK its real fights b:chuckle


    no but seriously on PvE servers our top PKers r geared out and have the best PK gear and thus all other PKers have to beat the best


    We are not dumb in PvP we who pk in PvE servers most likely know how to fight better then u because we have to go up agaisnt the best


    U guys are just people who want to act all tough picking on little 30s and because u do that u think we know all about PKing


    b:shutup
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  • Eunuch - Dreamweaver
    Eunuch - Dreamweaver Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Ppl who play FFA servers are overly self-conscious mazochists.
  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Eunuch - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Ppl who play FFA servers are overly self-conscious mazochists.

    ^ best statement ever b:pleased
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  • Paladin - Harshlands
    Paladin - Harshlands Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    A chess board game is also considered "PvP"?
  • ChronicDose - Harshlands
    ChronicDose - Harshlands Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I think the whole point being made here is that if you play on a PVE server, you never will be able to obtain TRUE PVP. IMO What makes true PVP is the fact that I there is constantl ganking and RPK, where the player in question who is being ganked has no *CHOICE*
    If you have the choice to turn on and off PVP mode, that is NOT true PVP. Which do you think is going to be easier?
    a) Getting to 9x by staying in PVE mode and getting all your good gear before *choosing* to go PVP mode and fight all the other carebears who pved themselves to 9x because they didnt have to worry about getting ganked left right and center.
    b) Getting to 7x on an ACTUAL in the same time because 1/3 of your time playing you are fighting off RPKers, RedNames, RPKing yourself...etc.
    PVP Servers are supposed to be harsh, they are not for everyone, but it is TRUE pvp.
    When you >lvl 30 you have no choice unless you are in SZ to be killed.
    There are still Carebears on PVP servers, but its no biggie, if they don't fight back and die, its the person who is RPKing who suffers ( haha Redname is oh so fun)
    I do not condone killing of lower levels, but that is the way the game is designed, so unless griefing is being conducted it is ALL IN FAIR GAME.
    I dont think you PVErs understand the feeling of being on a miji grind then having three lvl 9x drop out of the sky and **** you, then camp your grind spot so you have to either,
    a) waste 10 minutes of your miji to go somewhere else
    b)QQ and be a ***** and hope they will leave you alone (LOL)
    c) Be happy because you chose a pvp server and it is funny because you have probably done that to someone else before.

    If you don't like KOS, RPK and All around destruction then you IMO are a Carebear =Someone who is to much of a ***** to handle REAL PVP.

    I don't care if you are 9x and play on a PVE server and never leave PVP mode, you are STILL a Carebear, you know why?
    -You had the ability to go into PVE mode to GET to that level so you could actually PK well, you didnt have to fight to get yourself there.

    PVE <<<<<<PVP And even though PVE happens on a PVP server, it is a very different style of game.

    LOL to pvers trying to say it = real pvp.
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  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    ^^^ the arrogance of PVP server players never fails to amaze me. over zealous, self righteous, war monging, concieted freaks.
  • Eunuch - Dreamweaver
    Eunuch - Dreamweaver Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    ChronicDose - Harshlands wrote: »
    I dont think you PVErs understand the feeling of being on a miji grind then having three lvl 9x drop out of the sky and **** you, then camp your grind spot so you have to either,
    a) waste 10 minutes of your miji to go somewhere else
    b)QQ and be a ***** and hope they will leave you alone (LOL)
    c) Be happy because you chose a pvp server and it is funny because you have probably done that to someone else before.

    If you don't like KOS, RPK and All around destruction then you IMO are a Carebear =Someone who is to much of a ***** to handle REAL PVP.

    ...

    LOL to pvers trying to say it = real pvp.
    vvThis is you b:bye
    Eunuch - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Ppl who play FFA servers are overly self-conscious mazochists.
  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Yes u learn a lot on a PvP server like how to run and hide and how to kill lower lvls by ganking them there is no real knowledge because all u learn is how to be ganked and how to gank on PvE u have more real PK fights cause u have ppl who choose to fight each other
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  • ChronicDose - Harshlands
    ChronicDose - Harshlands Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yes u learn a lot on a PvP server like how to run and hide and how to kill lower lvls by ganking them there is no real knowledge because all u learn is how to be ganked and how to gank on PvE u have more real PK fights cause u have ppl who choose to fight each other

    I LOL at this,
    Over the past couple of weeks Ive had numerous ganking encounters which have turned into AWESOME PVP war's. 2v2, 3v3, 5v3 , 3v5 , 5v5 etc.

    a) There was no QQing
    b) No CareBears present ( I know I am in Carebears, I mean in actuality)
    c) Everyone chose to keep coming out of SZ to fight, and I know that I definitely was not pussing out and wasting dolls.

    Oh Ganking does happen but if players on a PVE server can decide they want to fight and have a good time, how does it make sense to claim this does not happen on PVP servers, this is a FOOLISH assumption.

    During my most recent pvp war, I dropped my HH60 weapon, that’s how PVP works....I discussed with my killer and managed to buy it back for a fair price, if that was not possible I would have had to go get it again, ****ty luck. That's life.

    I agree there are tons of *******s and idiots who let PVP get to their heads, but that is human nature that a 13 year old boy who has no friends at school, lives vicariously through their 9x character and feel better every time they insult some lower level they killed.


    That is life, if people are going to act like that realize that actuality of their RL situation, and laugh that yours is probably better and who cares its a GAME. If someone bases how cool they are on an MMORPH Lolz to that.

    I just hate people who cry on PVP servers about PVP and people who cry on PVE servers about how PVP servers isn't real PVP, or even that PVE server PVP is somehow BETTER????

    You guys just got to learn, come to HL and Ill give you a hug in the form of double sparked razor feathers, with a side of extreme poison, you robe wearing **** :D.
    RPK FTW.
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  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    And how is that fighting different then PvE servers? the only difference between the servers is that the big bad high lvls can boost their ego killing lower lvls other then that there is NOTHING DIFFERENT
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  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    The PvP is better in PvE servers because we choose when to fight so we fight at our best moments so its the best of the best
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  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    And how is that fighting different then PvE servers? the only difference between the servers is that the big bad high lvls can boost their ego killing lower lvls other then that there is NOTHING DIFFERENT
    exactly, so people with their inflated e penors have no right to tell us we dont know how to fight with such condescending attitudes
  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    exactly, so people with their inflated e penors have no right to tell us we dont know how to fight with such condescending attitudes

    But remember u cant use logic with them because then they will just tell u how they will pk u b:chuckle even though if he jumped to HT im sure i could think of a nice combo to hit him with b:bye
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  • ChronicDose - Harshlands
    ChronicDose - Harshlands Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    And how is that fighting different then PvE servers? the only difference between the servers is that the big bad high lvls can boost their ego killing lower lvls other then that there is NOTHING DIFFERENT

    Because you CAREBEAR, in pve servers you can't go gank a factions level 50s until they send their high levels to have a real and awesome pk war.
    In PVE servers' you can't kill people who are grinding, just for fun:) unless they WANT to have a small taste of PVP life and always live in PK mode.

    I may agree this is mean but its what REAL PVP IS. Like...what the hell
    You guys just have 9x who would prolly be 7x or not even playing the game because they QQed and quit because of real PVP.

    PVP is kinda like real life, there ARE *******s out there, and there are some that aren't. But the **** holes will try to **** around with you, its up to you how you react to that.

    Either way, Join a PVP server for real pvp, join a PVE server if you want to have PVP fun sometimes without having to deal with REAL pvp.
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  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009
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  • Eternalnub - Heavens Tear
    Eternalnub - Heavens Tear Posts: 393 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    ChronicDose - Harshlands wrote: »

    During my most recent pvp war, I dropped my HH60 weapon

    in PWI there is not HH..
    most of pvp server players are from other versions and mostly from my-en
    and we all know what happens when you hit lvl30 on my-en you get ganked by
    lvl50-100 players ...thats cool rite ^^
  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Yes and ganking reali teaching u the art of PvP i mean going after someone and one hitting them because they are half dead form a mob yes teaches u a lot.


    REAL PvP is the best agaisnt the best not ganking as soon as u grow up u will see that b:bye
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  • HolyInferno - Sanctuary
    HolyInferno - Sanctuary Posts: 767 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    ChronicDose - Harshlands wrote: »
    I LOL at this,
    Over the past couple of weeks Ive had numerous ganking encounters which have turned into AWESOME PVP war's. 2v2, 3v3, 5v3 , 3v5 , 5v5 etc.

    So have I
    a) There was no QQing
    b) No CareBears present ( I know I am in Carebears, I mean in actuality)
    c) Everyone chose to keep coming out of SZ to fight, and I know that I definitely was not pussing out and wasting dolls.

    Same here.


    Please explain to me this "Real PK" you speak of. In my time spent in harshlands, I have observed you "real pkers" a bunch. Fighting outside the gates of Arch, at Hiden Orchid, SP. Why did I observe, because this question of real pking has always irked me. I like to pk because personally, the game has gotten ridiculously boring. With PK-ing, there are ever changing elements since no two people are the same nor is the human mind ever constant in their actions. However, after witnessing your AWESOME PK fests, I see no difference in whats going on. BMs are still stun locking, Venos, sending in nixes and pew pewing from behind. Barbs are running aroung trying to take out squishys and archers are somewhere in the hidden corners sniping away. And all the while im sure, they are spamming their apoc items. The ONLY difference I saw from YOUR pk fights and OURS where the amount of trash that was piled into the common chat window. From the way the pvp server players talk in this thread, it almost seems like you've broken a code in this game. The game is design as is. The mechanics of it are not hard to figure out. So maybe I'm missing something. Perhaps its because I dont get ambushed every corner or that every waking moment of my life, something I do pve related is crashed by other people?

    Please, enlighten me. b:cute
    b:bye you were all swell peoples
  • ChronicDose - Harshlands
    ChronicDose - Harshlands Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Eternalnub - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    in PWI there is not HH..
    most of pvp server players are from other versions and mostly from my-en
    and we all know what happens when you hit lvl30 on my-en you get ganked by
    lvl50-100 players ...thats cool rite ^^
    TT60*
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yes and ganking reali teaching u the art of PvP i mean going after someone and one hitting them because they are half dead form a mob yes teaches u a lot. REAL PvP is the best agaisnt the best not ganking as soon as u grow up u will see that b:bye

    LOL Well I am not saying I do it, I generally wait for players to finish mobs before I attack them EVEN if I hate them. But it's because killing half dead characters who are distracted is not my idea of glory.

    Some people Will do this but if they try to insult you because they one shotted you while you fought a mob, how is that demeaning in any way, shape or form?
    Just laugh, and know you may be able to do something similar to then.

    My whole point was not all PVP server fights are one sided gank fest, I am sure a lot of children and people with low self esteem enjoy this but this is just not the case when you are higher level and choose to fight people ~ your level.
    PVP server is all about how you choose to act, and includes the fact that everyone else gets the same freedom as you.
    If you can't handle real PVP, I stand by my word, you are a Carebear.
    The only way you PVE server memebers can equal PVP server drama and intensity in anyway is always play in PK mode.
    Then I has some respect.
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  • DollParts - Sanctuary
    DollParts - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yes and ganking reali teaching u the art of PvP i mean going after someone and one hitting them because they are half dead form a mob yes teaches u a lot.


    REAL PvP is the best agaisnt the best not ganking as soon as u grow up u will see that b:bye

    this is exactly why i play on PVE. When i'm grinding, i'm freaking grinding.. leave me alone... I'll pvp when i feel like it.
    I rather have a choice of when i want to pvp, so i can level in peace and pvp when i'm in the mood.
    I have always like duels better anyways.. its face to face and deals with real strategy against the class your fighting. I'v noticed most of the "PKers" i have dueled did not know a real strategy on beating another class. They just kinda spammed skills till i killed them.
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  • ChronicDose - Harshlands
    ChronicDose - Harshlands Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    DollParts - Sanctuary wrote: »
    this is exactly why i play on PVE. When i'm grinding, i'm freaking grinding.. leave me alone... I'll pvp when i feel like it.
    I rather have a choice of when i want to pvp, so i can level in peace and pvp when i'm in the mood.
    I have always like duels better anyways.. its face to face and deals with real strategy against the class your fighting. I'v noticed most of the "PKers" i have dueled did not know a real strategy on beating another class. They just kinda spammed skills till i killed them.


    So you are a Carebear, don't cry :D It's ok.b:thanks There may be a Carebear in all of us who knows HAHA
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  • Danikovich - Heavens Tear
    Danikovich - Heavens Tear Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I play in a PVE server but honestly, It's because I played another game that was REAL pvp/pking. Let me try to make it clear. On REAL PvP or what you call 'ganking' you, potential victim, have to be aware all the time... Look at the Radar, look at all directions and when someone comes at full speed at you to **** you, you will be most likely unaware of what to do, because you didnt expect that, so you would have to improvise on how'd you fight, and that'd be for your whole gaming carrier. You'll have to level expecting someone to kick your **** all the time. And that's what people are trying to say is REAL PvP. Not just, Hey, I decided to PK a bit tonight... And imo, that's being a carebear because you are only doing it when you want... when you CAN, when you were totally safe farming for some angels or charms then when you were buffed up and ready and went on it, so yeah...

    Sorry if my english is not perfect b:pleased
    Like they say in my country:
    When you are too smart, smartness eats you up.
  • DollParts - Sanctuary
    DollParts - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    ChronicDose - Harshlands wrote: »
    So you are a Carebear, don't cry :D It's ok.b:thanks There may be a Carebear in all of us who knows HAHA

    This game is nothing compared to other PVP based games i play. So yea, stop being a d1ck, i know you get off on it.

    I'm sorry the rest of you feel you have to pk 24/7 .. thats your choice, not mine. So spot pushing your stupid ideas of carebears on the rest of us.. seriously..

    i'm just saying the magority of PKers can not win a duel. PERIOD. haha
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  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Its this simple if u want great PvP fights agaisnt the best go on a PvE server if u want to get ganked left and right and sometimes get a decent fight when u find the rare person with a soul on a PvP server go there but my whole agruement was always for the fact that people on PvE are better or just as good at PvP as people on PvP servers
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  • HolyInferno - Sanctuary
    HolyInferno - Sanctuary Posts: 767 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Danikovich - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I play in a PVE server but honestly, It's because I played another game that was REAL pvp/pking. Let me try to make it clear. On REAL PvP or what you call 'ganking' you, potential victim, have to be aware all the time... Look at the Radar, look at all directions and when someone comes at full speed at you to **** you, you will be most likely unaware of what to do, because you didnt expect that, so you would have to improvise on how'd you fight, and that'd be for your whole gaming carrier. You'll have to level expecting someone to kick your **** all the time. And that's what people are trying to say is REAL PvP. Not just, Hey, I decided to PK a bit tonight... And imo, that's being a carebear because you are only doing it when you want... when you CAN, when you were totally safe farming for some angels or charms then when you were buffed up and ready and went on it, so yeah...

    Sorry if my english is not perfect b:pleased

    Wow, the only difference of real pvp and our "fake" is the fact that we dont put ourselves in a constantly frantic situation? Why the hell would you want to play a game like this, like that? Go play a FPS if that's how you want to feel the entire time. b:cute
    b:bye you were all swell peoples
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    The thing is simple. People only gank because they have NO chance of winning a real fight.

    They will always try to say ganking is real pvp because its the only way they can ever hope to actually kill anyone. They suck so bad at pvp when the other guy can hit back they run and hide in the safe zone.

    They don't like duels because the fight is much more fair, not have the odds stacked in their favor. They can't deal with not having a huge advantage, they haven't the slightest idea how to fight when they don't.
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