Channel vs. Crit Rings.

Ontopic: I personally prefer crit as I don't really stack enough -chan to make it effective just yet.

Offtopic:

Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i'd love to see a level 83 wizard 1 shot me with tempest.

Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i have over 4k hp unbuffed. not to mention i have equilivant pdef to light armour and almost 8k average mdef. who other than a level 99 is going to 1 hit me with tempest(assuming they have level 11)? no one.

i've been hit by sage stone rain, and it hit about 1.3k~ on my terrible robes. assuming it's a crit, 2.6k. so you're either lying, or the cleric was wearing light armour.

This isn't even a crit.

Lv7 BT + 5 fire mastery (both outdated, I could have 9 and 10 respectively at 83, it's just unnecessary imo). Lagged when I tried to take the SS so it's a little delayed. As you can see my genie energy bar is full, I did not have undine strike yet, I still have chi so it wasn't a sparked BT, and it is an odd numbered hit. That hit is completely bare of debuffs, the only thing being in question is that I'm matk buffed. Leveling BT to 9 and FM to 10 would easily be more damage than the buff gives.

It's difficult to judge random people BTing you because you don't know if they bother to level it or not, and the ones that do may be like me and leave it a few levels below max for your player level out of laziness or priorities. Also the variable of peoples' gear; which affects a person's damage just as much as damage taken.

Not a flame, just saying it's definitely doable.

Close to the stats you listed, actually. (: His HP is lower though as a result, around 3.6k iirc.

As I said btw, there are multiple factors that could attribute to his/her damage being lower. I'm not even going to bother speculating on that, because after all, you said an 83 wizard.

It's possible regardless. Though if you want to make things more obviously plausible, stack undine strike with spark [the genie skill, not spark erupt] and all that pretty fire mdef will drop to around 3k or less. There's still plenty of energy left over to add extreme poison after too.

it wasn't a 1 shot. it was pretty close, but it wasn't. it was just a bit lower than anemones damage.

Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »

considering level 10 blade tempest from a level 96 pure int mage(+7 wraith conqurer) hit me for less than you hit him, i'd assume his gears are absolutely terrible?

Because suddenly a wraith conq is the best weapon for a mage. *nods*
However, I will agree with you that it takes quite a powerful blade tempest to one shot a cleric with vitality. Even my own BT at the moment deals roughly 3.9k damage without undine/extreme poison to an 89 cleric. (which is pretty bad since 89 clerics do not have their hh90 equipment yet).

But by the time a mage hits 90, most of them know better than to throw a blade tempest at a cleric with full hp. Thats simply a waste of spark, and a waste of channel time. I have much better things to do with my spark.

"- Channeling if you wanna blow even more as a wizard,
+ critical if you want to blow slightly less"

what about endgame if someone gathered all the signs/badges (for the -10 chanl wpn)
and pretty much went all out everywhere else with channel minus things?

would yall still go with this little crit here, or 50, 60, maybe even more of a % redux on channeling?

and the things may not be in the game, but they may be... channeling at or greater than -90%?

demon wiz with its channeling- bonus and doing all that currently exists in PW for channeling- ?

why the strong feelings for crit? lol. i'd almost guarantee if someone sought channel- as strongly as some feel about crit+, that the channeling would rock way harder than any possibility of crit+ (wizards arent archers lol, but they do have long channel times so they get the most outta channel-)

and then u have the wiz in some japan version or something that achieved 99% and (in theory) it would be possible to do with things currently ingame (given that the character is a demon wiz), 90-99% channeling redux would be possible for 15 seconds. maybe even indefinitely if enough channel gear and things that arent currently in PWI were added. how's crit gona top that? lol

Jrudora - Lost City wrote: »

Because suddenly a wraith conq is the best weapon for a mage. *nods*
However, I will agree with you that it takes quite a powerful blade tempest to one shot a cleric with vitality. Even my own BT at the moment deals roughly 3.9k damage without undine/extreme poison to an 89 cleric. (which is pretty bad since 89 clerics do not have their hh90 equipment yet).

But by the time a mage hits 90, most of them know better than to throw a blade tempest at a cleric with full hp. Thats simply a waste of spark, and a waste of channel time. I have much better things to do with my spark.

wraith conqueror is probably the best 90 magic sword. the only thing comparable is the 90 gold, but the mp mod on it makes me despise it; and lunate. which, unless you're willing to fork out enough for 35k rep and the extreme amount of badges you need, is unobtainable.

i know you're probably going to have the 90 green quoit, i just don't favor them.

is it now? personal preference aside, 77 more matk isn't enough to convince me that it's better. i'd gladly take the 140~150 more hp over it.

maybe if i were light armoured the quoit would be more appealing, but i'm not.

damage wise, the quoit wins. that's why i said, maybe for a light armoured mage. i'm not light armoured.

I still laugh @ any 9x mage without a quiot.

Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i laugh at mages that choose 90 over 99.

Well maybe some of us (me) are going to medical school after the summer and won't have time to go past 90, and want to enjoy 90 as much as they can, so choose for 90 instead of 99.

I hear 102's where it's at b:quiet

Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i laugh at mages that choose 90 over 99.

Forp being judged by Tika, Amour, Witchburner

Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »

real money...we actually have to work for it ourselves.

Absolutely.

kids, stop arguing. best lvl = max lvl of the game.

wasn't this about channel vs crit rings ? lol