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    Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited June 2009 in Cleric
    Are you a good cleric?


    Select 1 of the 3

    Can AoE grind 10+ Poison monsters - 5 points
    Can AoE grind 5-9 Poison monsters - 2 points
    Can AoE grind 1-4 Poison monsters - 0.5 points
    (Poison Monsters within 10 levels of cleric)


    Has 2k+ HP -5 points
    Has 1.5k+ HP - 3 points
    Has under 1.5kHP - 1 points

    Can beat a wizard in a duel without healing - 4 points
    Can beat a wizard in a duel with healing - 2 points
    Can not beat a wizard in a duel - -5 points

    Select all the ones you can achieve

    Can Tank mantavip - 5 points
    Can Tank Suzerix - 2 points
    Can Tank Krimson - 45 points
    Can Solo Dismal shade - 2 points
    Can Solo Yan - 7 points
    Can Solo Raged wrath - 6 points
    Can Solo Mantavip - 9 points
    Can Solo Krixxix - 2 points
    Can Solo FB19 - 2 points
    Can Solo FB29 - 4 points

    Can successfully kite a barbarian in a duel - 4 points
    Can successfully kite a blademaster in a duel - 7 points
    Can successfully keep an archer in close range - 5 points

    Has level 10 revive - 3 points
    Has level 5 revive - 2 points
    Has level 1 revive - 1 points


    Is FAC - 5 points
    Is FSC - 1 points
    Is Combined - 15 points

    80+ Exceptional cleric
    40+ Good cleric
    31-39 Acceptable cleric
    1-30 Fail cleric (hey atleast you're better than SATII)






    GOOD CLERICS:
    Sorbik +5 - Epic for tanking Krimson
    Azazel
    Kaenor
    RedsRose
    Enina
    Keyne
    Fistriel
    Queen Catriona - Wizard slayer
    MEDIUM CLERICS:
    Nelae
    FAIL CLERICS:
    yasil - Good fail cleric +1
    Zephyrx
    Istilah
    **** OF A FAIL CLERIC:
    SATII
    We're MysticAve my name is not Dave
    (Poem in the making - Shall be epic)
    Post edited by Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear on

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    • Posts: 1,490 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      LOL dude....

      well i score 30 flat lol
      and add 30+ mobs in aoe grind ^^
      b:dirty
    • Posts: 1,175 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      This was not based on high level Robed clerics, was based on all clerics.
      We're MysticAve my name is not Dave
      (Poem in the making - Shall be epic)
    • Posts: 88 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Which one is suzerix? I always forget o_o'
    • Posts: 202 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Krimson's attack rate is slow. With a bit of kiting, and purifying it is very easy to kill with another EP healing you. I'm sure I could kill him by heiro tanking and kiting myself. I did have WB buffs this time, but when my gear is complete i'll have 6.5k hp unbuffed anyways.

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    • Posts: 203 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      put on your list
      Raged wraith
      Yan
      *solo* suz
      solo/tank fb 1~59 (easy cheasy)
      and beat a wizrd without healing....if they FoW you will take at least 3~4 hit from them you know (sultra) be careful =o?
    • Posts: 88 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      :P I'm a good cleric.

      if you added in healing I could beat a level 75 wizard at level 55.... granted he did beat me once xD but still.
      Float like a butterfly; hit like a truck! b:chuckle
    • Posts: 1,563 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Can AoE grind 10+ Poison monsters +5 points ( AOE 20+ monsters before... lv 61 poison mobs)

      Has 2k+ HP + +5 points (yuppers)

      Never seriously PvPed yet lol.. (fudge, that goes for all of the PvP points)

      Can Tank Suzerix +2 points (oh yea! did it!)
      Can Tank Krimson (Fudge, gonna get owned..)
      Can Solo Dismal shade +2 points (Yea, tanked)
      Can Solo Yan (I have no idea where is that mob lol..)
      Can Solo Raged wrath (Beats me? Where is teh mob?)

      Total Points 10 + 2 + 2 = 14...

      Ok this test blows..
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    • Posts: 88 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Buahahaha! I beat you! :P

      lol
      Float like a butterfly; hit like a truck! b:chuckle
    • Posts: 173 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Simple 30 or 34 points (depends on barb, you cant kill it in general if the barb has same playing skills like you). Better point giving additions:
      -you can live up and heal at Astral (TT2-2)
      -you can live up and heal at soulbanisher (TT 1-2,3)
      -etc, not just tanking-bashing skills describe a good cleric on my opinion.
    • Posts: 68 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      Are you a good cleric?


      Select 1 of the 3

      Can AoE grind 10+ Poison monsters - 5 points
      Can AoE grind 5-9 Poison monsters - 2 points
      Can AoE grind 1-4 Poison monsters - 0.5 points

      Has 2k+ HP -5 points
      Has 1.5k+ HP - 3 points
      Has under 1.5kHP - 1 points

      Can beat a wizard in a duel without healing - 4 points
      Can beat a wizard in a duel with healing - 2 points
      Can not beat a wizard in a duel - -5 points

      Select all the ones you can achieve

      Can Tank mantavip - 5 points
      Can Tank Suzerix - 2 points
      Can Tank Krimson - 45 points
      Can Solo Dismal shade - 2 points
      Can Solo Yan - 7 points
      Can Solo Raged wrath - 6 points

      Can successfully kite a barbarian in a duel - 4 points
      Can successfully kite a blademaster in a duel - 7 points

      80+ Exceptional cleric
      39+ Good cleric
      30-38 Acceptable cleric
      -29 Fail cleric


      there's my 30 second test 4 you



      GOOD CLERICS:
      Nelae
      Sorbik +5 - Epic for tanking Krimson
      Azazel

      MEDIUM CLERICS:
      Catriona

      FAIL CLERICS:
      yasil

      **** OF A FAIL CLERIC:
      forp

      you failed to specify the level of the monsters being aoe'd so any cleric with razor feathers and above lv 40 pretty much could do that with ease.

      my lv 71 pure int cleric has 2570 hp, if you consider over 2k hp to be a good cleric than your idea of a good cleric is flawed, and please note that none of my gear is refined higher than +1. though my equipment has all average hp stones and some decent hp mods on most of them.

      i see youre still crying about your case against mages in a duel... typical carebear. beating a mage in a duel with or without healing requires absolutely no skill, I DONT THINK MY CLERIC HAS EVER NOT ONE HITTED A MAGE IN A DUEL. yet you still fail to realize that beating someone in a duel means absolutely nothing.

      ive never tried to tank mantavip, though im confident i could, and krimson i doubt i could do. as far as yan and wraith are concerned, i did solo them for i believe a cultivation 70 quest, took alot out of my mp charm... but it did happen, was taking 800 damage/hit. i had to cyclone then heal, cyclone then heal, so on. no hp charm was used.

      if you need to kite a melee class to beat them in a duel, there is something seriously wrong with your skill level. ive never tried it, and never will.

      and to whoever said they can beat a mage 20 levels higher if they use healing, hahaha yeah right. youre level 55, youre magic resistance should (with buffs) around.... 4.5-5k? not to mention youre too low leveled to have youre physical def debuff or sleep debuff to a level that matters.
      the mage is going to deal over double the damage you do. and you dont even have a tt weapon yet! who are you kidding honestly!

      and if youre light armor.. just dont even get me started

      and though me and forp have differed on some of our opinions, alot of what forp posts is hardcore truth. (forp if you read this im samalia) and he can beat ur ****
      Communist Leader
    • Posts: 12,354 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      Are you a good cleric?


      Select 1 of the 3

      Can AoE grind 10+ Poison monsters - 5 points
      Can AoE grind 5-9 Poison monsters - 2 points
      Can AoE grind 1-4 Poison monsters - 0.5 points

      Has 2k+ HP -5 points
      Has 1.5k+ HP - 3 points
      Has under 1.5kHP - 1 points

      Can beat a wizard in a duel without healing - 4 points
      Can beat a wizard in a duel with healing - 2 points (done the above but hit and miss so giving lower score)
      Can not beat a wizard in a duel - -5 points

      Select all the ones you can achieve

      Can Tank mantavip - 5 points
      Can Tank Suzerix - 2 points
      Can Tank Krimson - 45 points (nvr tried may have too)
      Can Solo Dismal shade - 2 points
      Can Solo Yan - 7 points
      Can Solo Raged wrath - 6 points

      Can successfully kite a barbarian in a duel - 4 points
      Can successfully kite a blademaster in a duel - 7 points

      80+ Exceptional cleric
      39+ Good cleric
      30-38 Acceptable cleric
      -29 Fail cleric

      Score of 45.....b:cute

      <---Gonna try Krimson now!
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      "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
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    • Posts: 88 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Oh shush Treza, you're jealous you can't beat a mage 20 levels above you :P it's very possible, you just have to know what you're doing.

      Look at this, duel starts, you start stacking ironheart.... or right before the duel starts, you spring up plume shell, so even if they do have their physical sparked attack ready for you you don't die from it. And then you're free to attack while your h.o.t. heals you and they're charging up another spell. Then you don't even NEED a sleep spell :P If I had that it would have been super easy.

      AND since they're most likely going to be using arcane armor, you hit them with plume shot because you'd be an idiot to use any other attack against robes. Bring me a level 75 wiz and I'd gladly show you how to beat them without using sleep.

      I was also well geared and full of HP shards. b:victory

      I know how to play my class. Do you? ;D
      Float like a butterfly; hit like a truck! b:chuckle
    • Posts: 4,286 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      This doesn't mean to say how good of cleric you are as in another game where skill counts I qualify.
      Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
    • Posts: 88 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      Are you a good cleric?


      Select 1 of the 3

      Can AoE grind 10+ Poison monsters - 5 points
      Can AoE grind 5-9 Poison monsters - 2 points
      Can AoE grind 1-4 Poison monsters - 0.5 points

      Has 2k+ HP -5 points
      Has 1.5k+ HP - 3 points
      Has under 1.5kHP - 1 points

      Can beat a wizard in a duel without healing - 4 points
      Can beat a wizard in a duel with healing - 2 points
      Can not beat a wizard in a duel - -5 points

      Select all the ones you can achieve

      Can Tank mantavip - 5 points
      Can Tank Suzerix - 2 points
      Can Tank Krimson - 45 points
      Can Solo Dismal shade - 2 points
      Can Solo Yan - 7 points
      Can Solo Raged wrath - 6 points

      Can successfully kite a barbarian in a duel - 4 points
      Can successfully kite a blademaster in a duel - 7 points

      80+ Exceptional cleric
      39+ Good cleric
      30-38 Acceptable cleric
      -29 Fail cleric


      there's my 30 second test 4 you



      GOOD CLERICS:
      Nelae
      Sorbik +5 - Epic for tanking Krimson
      Azazel

      MEDIUM CLERICS:
      Catriona

      FAIL CLERICS:
      yasil

      **** OF A FAIL CLERIC:
      forp

      LOL how am I a fail cleric? o.O!!

      I can do all of those besides Krimson which I havent tried. Should be able to tank it with barb buff tho.

      You havent told how many points you get btw Mystic.
    • Posts: 321 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      mystic is fail cleric cause hes FAC b:cute
    • Posts: 88 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Kicking butt isn't what it's all about. My cleric build isn't really even made for kicking butt, it's made for healing for instances and bosses and that's what I normally do :P being good at PvP as well is just a plus.
      Float like a butterfly; hit like a truck! b:chuckle
    • Posts: 203 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      FoW = 0.5s casting time, last 5 sec
      IH = 1s casting time
      Wizard will always have the headstart in a duel with cleric, so you have to last through at least 2~3 of his atk in order to be able to heal =/
    • Posts: 1,175 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      I'd add survive TT but I don't want EVERY lower level cleric to be fail :P

      Tereza, when I was level 51 doing my culti, I beat a level 61 wizard twice.. took 2 plume shots.. lol.
      We're MysticAve my name is not Dave
      (Poem in the making - Shall be epic)
    • Posts: 321 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      I'd add survive TT but I don't want EVERY lower level cleric to be fail :P

      Tereza, when I was level 51 doing my culti, I beat a level 61 wizard twice.. took 2 plume shots.. lol.
      because duels mean everything.
    • Posts: 88 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Azazel - Dreamweaver wrote: »
      FoW = 0.5s casting time, last 5 sec
      IH = 1s casting time
      Wizard will always have the headstart in a duel with cleric, so you have to last through at least 2~3 of his atk in order to be able to heal =/

      Depends on which attack is the first to be used and whether or not they interrupt my casting. A lot of factors go into a fight, there's never a sure fire win unless you're a ridiculously high level taking down a ridiculously low level.
      Float like a butterfly; hit like a truck! b:chuckle
    • Posts: 1,175 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      meaangirl wrote: »
      because duels mean everything.


      Looks like someone failed test
      We're MysticAve my name is not Dave
      (Poem in the making - Shall be epic)
    • Posts: 88 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      Looks like someone failed test

      Points plz! b:laugh

      Add run in Belial party without dying b:bye
    • Posts: 68 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Catriona - Lost City wrote: »
      Oh shush Treza, you're jealous you can't beat a mage 20 levels above you :P it's very possible, you just have to know what you're doing.

      Look at this, duel starts, you start stacking ironheart.... or right before the duel starts, you spring up plume shell, so even if they do have their physical sparked attack ready for you you don't die from it. And then you're free to attack while your h.o.t. heals you and they're charging up another spell. Then you don't even NEED a sleep spell :P If I had that it would have been super easy.

      AND since they're most likely going to be using arcane armor, you hit them with plume shot because you'd be an idiot to use any other attack against robes. Bring me a level 75 wiz and I'd gladly show you how to beat them without using sleep.

      I was also well geared and full of HP shards. b:victory

      I know how to play my class. Do you? ;D

      a lv 75 wizard is not 20 levels higher than you, a lv 81 wizard will have undine as well as a sleep skill that instant casts you cannot beat anyone 20 levels higher than you of equal skill. thats like saying a lv 1 can beat a lv 21, i dont think so
      Communist Leader
    • Posts: 68 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      I'd add survive TT but I don't want EVERY lower level cleric to be fail :P

      Tereza, when I was level 51 doing my culti, I beat a level 61 wizard twice.. took 2 plume shots.. lol.

      so? my lv 71 cleric could kill any robed class below lv 80 in 2 plume shots, doesnt mean im better than a mage

      it depends alot on your armor, if either person is wearing light armor it mages the fight easier for a mage.

      the thing about mage vs cleric is that if 1 of them is wearing light armor (doesnt matter which) the mage will have an easier fight ahead of him
      Communist Leader
    • Posts: 321 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      Looks like someone failed test

      Im not even a cleric, but nice try b:shutup
    • Posts: 203 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      ehm..............................................
      @Treze: LA cleric < Wizard BUT ROBE Cleric > LA wizard
      the reason is rather simple.
      1-LA wizard deal less damage than a pure MAG, 95% skills are pure elemental, at the same level, arcane robe absorb 70% elemental damage.
      2-LA wizard have higher def, so? they have less HP and elemental resist, no reason why a cleric should spam plume shot on a LA wizard when they can 2~3 hits them with wield thunder+ Great Cyclone (1 hit with temptest).
      3-lvl79+: Undine strike v Guardian light, 1 reduce 60% elemental resist, 1 reduce 60% damage taken, you should be able to see which 1 gave an upper hand.


      So it does matter which 1 wear LA, a wizard wear LA is just pure lost vs a cleric but a LA cleric vs a LA wizard is pretty much easier than a 2 arca robe vs ea other because wield thunder + metal mastery can deal massive damage, greater than a razor can deal on robe class.

      i dont ever think wizard have a chance vs a cleric if both are decent player =/
    • Posts: 88 Arc User
      edited May 2009
      Treza - Lost City wrote: »
      a lv 75 wizard is not 20 levels higher than you, a lv 81 wizard will have undine as well as a sleep skill that instant casts you cannot beat anyone 20 levels higher than you of equal skill. thats like saying a lv 1 can beat a lv 21, i dont think so

      You don't pay attention do you? I said that I was level 55 when I did it so that means that level 75 is 20 levels higher than me. Did you fail math or something? Or perhaps you failed simple reading comprehension. Stop wasting your time with your horrible math and just accept the fact that it happened. I was a very well geared level 55, no gear under 2* :P and it was all arcane not to mention the fact that I had my magic shell maxed already.

      I've also seen a level 66 barbarian take down another barbarian level 75. Sometimes level just doesn't have as much to do with it as much as you would like to think so. It depends a lot on each player and what skills they ACTUALLY have and not what skills they hypothetically have or what skills you think that they should have and how they used them.

      :P I don't surrender to limits I push them. Maybe a few other people out there should do the same and maybe you'd even surprise yourself xD
      Float like a butterfly; hit like a truck! b:chuckle
    • Posts: 1,175 Arc User
      edited June 2009
      There's is a little physical genie skill called 'Celestial sword' which hits about 1.1k on robes on with level 70 genie with 37 str.

      you would not believe how fast I dropped a wizard with that.. cyclone > celestial sword.
      really it was such a fast duel.. LoL

      For the record, undine does nothing to a cleric, Guardian light duh? (as Arzazel said)
      We're MysticAve my name is not Dave
      (Poem in the making - Shall be epic)
    • Posts: 1,175 Arc User
      edited June 2009
      Upped your rank on board Catriona.
      We're MysticAve my name is not Dave
      (Poem in the making - Shall be epic)
    • Posts: 1,445 Arc User
      edited June 2009
      okay.

      Can AoE grind 10+ Poison monsters - 5 points +5

      Has 2k+ HP -5 points - 3k hp base. +5

      Can beat a wizard in a duel without healing - 4 points - a mage my own level that sucks, sure. i might not even attack, they sometimes run away on their own forfeiting the duel to the awesomeness that is me. +4

      Can Tank mantavip - 5 points +5
      Can Tank Suzerix - 2 points +2
      Can Tank Krimson - 45 points - never tried?
      Can Solo Dismal shade - 2 points +2
      Can Solo Yan - 7 points - why would i want to try?
      Can Solo Raged wrath - 6 points - never tried
      Can Solo Mantavip - 9 points +9
      Can Solo Krixxix - 2 points +2
      Can Solo FB19 - 2 points +2
      Can Solo FB29 - 4 points +4

      Can successfully kite a barbarian in a duel - 4 points +4
      Can successfully kite a blademaster in a duel - 7 points +7
      Can successfully keep an archer in close range - 5 points +5(but not always necessary)

      Has level 10 revive - 3 points +3


      so if my math doesn't blow, that's a 59.

      silly mystic. still falling behind me in everything you do?

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