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that kinda sounds like socialism....a lvl 87 bm gets same pay as a lvl 60 bm....i dont find that fair...since the 87 bm contributes alot more to tw (heiro, pots, orbs, etc) than the lvl 60 does...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Ref - Harshlands wrote: »There's no effective tracking system for the participation scheme and it just give Icon an excuse get a large chunk of the TW turnout without the complaining.
I'm sure HeadTrauma (a BM) deserved his GX, plus the +9 refine, plus the g10 stone because he tanks and heals for everyone's TT, no?
Check your mail.. Do you have any resent transactions? It can easily be tracked that way.
He is the only one up there in the levels.. Now go make a barb or a bm and get it to 90 and watch you also get one ( of course if you prove to Icon that you deserve one)
I agree with you in one though.. HeadT does **** for that faction... **** that guy doesnt even talk
in GCthat kinda sounds like socialism....a lvl 87 bm gets same pay as a lvl 60 bm....i dont find that fair...since the 87 bm contributes alot more to tw (heiro, pots, orbs, etc) than the lvl 60 does...
If Emo actually bought hieros for KD's TWs he is simply a tard... Everyone knew that all the TWs were gonna be a no show..0 -
well thats not exactly the point...if they did just run through it....we have to put it in perspective that they did do a tw....what happens if kd fight kylin? 87 bm gets same pay as 60 bm...if thats the case ima make an alt and keep him at 60 and get same pay b:thanks[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Uiztrollin - Harshlands wrote: »Check your mail.. Do you have any resent transactions? It can easily be tracked that way.
He is the only one up there in the levels.. Now go make a barb or a bm and get it to 90 and watch you also get one ( of course if you prove to Icon that you deserve one)
I agree with you in one though.. HeadT does **** for that faction... **** that guy doesnt even talk in GC
I think you've missed the point. Say if Icon gives out 400K extra for the helpful members and there are 20 of them. The fact that there will still be (a fair amount) free money going through his hand. My current faction's more clear-cut in terms of TW pay.
Glad you agreed with the HeadTrauma part.0 -
well thats not exactly the point...if they did just run through it....we have to put it in perspective that they did do a tw....what happens if kd fight kylin? 87 bm gets same pay as 60 bm...if thats the case ima make an alt and keep him at 60 and get same pay b:thanks
No because lvl 60s can't enter TW
But yes I see where you are coming from.
I really don't know how the payment works though.... me as 7x used to get 800k.. But I guess as people knew what Emo was doing they just decided to keep the pay low on him.
EDIT: QQ ROme didn't read this post0 -
Ref - Harshlands wrote: »There's no effective tracking system for the participation scheme and it just give Icon an excuse get a large chunk of the TW turnout without the complaining.
I'm sure HeadTrauma (a BM) deserved his GX, plus the +9 refine, plus the g10 stone because he tanks and heals for everyone's TT, no?
Wrong. People who donate over the course of the week are noted down. This isn't my responsibility so I don't know exactly how they go about it, but even those who participate doing the World Bosses after TW are also made note of and are marked for extra pay.
I know you don't get it, but at least the members do.well thats not exactly the point...if they did just run through it....we have to put it in perspective that they did do a tw....what happens if kd fight kylin? 87 bm gets same pay as 60 bm...if thats the case ima make an alt and keep him at 60 and get same pay
You wouldn't be allowed in the guild. b:mischievous0 -
hahah okay okay...sorry ALL MIGHTY POWERFUL KINGDOM! say i was....lets go with a 75 bm vs 86 bm...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Thorin - Harshlands wrote: »*Sits back and lets the poetic justice wash over him*
This thread sounds oddly familiar
Kinda like the things I argued with Icon about
He banned me for speaking out, I'd watch it if I were you b:bye
And yeah, don't worry about the money, shards, materials, and charms that Kingdom gets, they are evenly distributed to Icon's favorite 15 people b:chuckle
You were banned because you wanted it, you really thought you could harassed me for 3 days in privite chat and not get kicked?Michael - Harshlands wrote: »People in kingdom get a base pay rate for attending TW (its not level based) however we also get extra payments for Worldboss helping, Donating materials, potions, herbs or HH mats.
If a member does nothing but TW his pay will be quite low, but if he participates in everything the guild does he can make large amounts per week. The aim is to encourage people to participate in guild events and assist other members
Yep.Uiztrollin - Harshlands wrote: »leechs
This severs full of them, just because you log on 10min a week dosnt mean you actually are in my faction.Shauron - Harshlands wrote: »This week KD is getting double paymenteb:laugh
Icon is giving in to DD preasure
Its been on our forums months in advanced our payment method and increase.. to bad kids talk before they read. I personally could have 8x alt by now, look at Elixir and MD, you really thing my payment method would allow a QQme Kylin or Crimson alt in my guild same pay?0 -
seems theres a lot of corruption involved in kd and with all the secrecy one can just wonder what the'yre hiding. should be transparent to the members like how much are available funds and where it goes. they deserve to know. but well, looks like image does it again.0
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thepopeseer wrote: »seems theres a lot of corruption involved in kd and with all the secrecy one can just wonder what the'yre hiding. should be transparent to the members like how much are available funds and where it goes. they deserve to know. but well, looks like image does it again.
Lol dose what again?
I know this is just a couple people switching avatar/account0 -
Icon should play professional dodgeball with as pro as he is at dodging questions.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Sig by Bakura~0 -
I dont have to answer what trash on here asks me, people in my guild can ask me anytime they want... but ohh no wait they dont have to because they know where to find it.0
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Icon - Harshlands wrote: »I dont have to answer what trash on here asks me, people in my guild can ask me anytime they want... but ohh no wait they dont have to because they know where to find it.
Hi do you use a magic sword with mana? b:puzzled0 -
Then why are people in your guild asking here?Icon - Harshlands wrote: »I dont have to answer what trash on here asks me, people in my guild can ask me anytime they want... but ohh no wait they dont have to because they know where to find it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Sig by Bakura~0 -
Ligeia - Harshlands wrote: »Then why are people in your guild asking here?
They arnt.0 -
haha EmoWDF told me he got paid 500k...he is an 87 bm like myself. and with 11 lands he get 500k salary....thats what i got paid..in QQme with 3 lands ....where is all this money going to? hmm maybe headtrauma's incomparable acc shard? or icons full perfect sharded hh90? or maybe it is being distributed evenly....who knows....
I may not be totally deserving of the axe and G10 shard, but you have no idea how much I have donated to the guild...but I assure you, it is A LOT. I paid for the refinement on my own, and I gave back 2 perfect shards (which was my reward for first 90 BM) when Icon informed me that he would be socketing my new weapon. Judge all you want, but until you have facts it's much wiser to refrain from baseless accusations and inferences of corruption. Speculation that I or my new axes are responsible for low TW pay is completely inaccurate and ignorant.0 -
HeadTrauma - Harshlands wrote: »I may not be totally deserving of the axe and G10 shard, but you have no idea how much I have donated to the guild...but I assure you, it is A LOT. I paid for the refinement on my own, and I gave back 2 perfect shards (which was my reward for first 90 BM) when Icon informed me that he would be socketing my new weapon. Judge all you want, but until you have facts it's much wiser to refrain from baseless accusations and inferences of corruption. Speculation that I or my new axes are responsible for low TW pay is completely inaccurate and ignorant.
Man... I liked it better when you were botting all day so we did not have to hear all your QQ0 -
MAGEALLDAY_ - Harshlands wrote: »Man... I liked it better when you were botting all day so we did not have to hear all your QQ
I'm sorry if you can't understand why I would want to defend myself and my guild. Why don't you post on your main, Antihero? There's no reason to hide behind an alt like a little pu$$y.0 -
HeadTrauma - Harshlands wrote: »I may not be totally deserving of the axe and G10 shard, but you have no idea how much I have donated to the guild...but I assure you, it is A LOT. I paid for the refinement on my own, and I gave back 2 perfect shards (which was my reward for first 90 BM) when Icon informed me that he would be socketing my new weapon. Judge all you want, but until you have facts it's much wiser to refrain from baseless accusations and inferences of corruption. Speculation that I or my new axes are responsible for low TW pay is completely inaccurate and ignorant.
You may have given the most, but the person that gave the fourth and fifth most that are BMs get screwed by this system.
That's fact.
Obviously you see nothing wrong with it, others do.
It's not complicated.
It's just what it is.0 -
HeadTrauma - Harshlands wrote: »I'm sorry if you can't understand why I would want to defend myself and my guild. Why don't you post on your main, Antihero? There's no reason to hide behind an alt like a little pu$$y.
botterbotterbotterbotter0 -
Walterthewf - Harshlands wrote: »You may have given the most, but the person that gave the fourth and fifth most that are BMs get screwed by this system.
That's fact.
Obviously you see nothing wrong with it, others do.
It's not complicated.
It's just what it is.
Howso? I'm the only one that can even equip GX? By the time our next BMs are 90 we will be farming more for them...not to mention that I am going to give my old HH90 axes to the next person who can use them that hits 90...
What do you propose? That we not give anyone the GX we farmed? Give me a break. You people are talking out your asses with no knowledge of the circumstances surrounding this situation. I'm done talking on here because it does no good.
Peace out.0 -
Walterthewf - Harshlands wrote: »You may have given the most, but the person that gave the fourth and fifth most that are BMs get screwed by this system.
That's fact.
Obviously you see nothing wrong with it, others do.
It's not complicated.
It's just what it is.
Why don't we wait for those other BMs to reach 90 and see what happens to them
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HeadTrauma - Harshlands wrote: »Howso? I'm the only one that can even equip GX? By the time our next BMs are 90 we will be farming more for them...not to mention that I am going to give my old HH90 axes to the next person who can use them that hits 90...
What do you propose? That we not give anyone the GX we farmed? Give me a break. You people are talking out your asses with no knowledge of the circumstances surrounding this situation. I'm done talking on here because it does no good.
Peace out.
Your missing the point.
You get GX, you get G9 Shards, you get your old axes for being the first to get 90.
You sure as hell didn't do enough alone to get all of these.
People are are 7x-8x get nothing. They sure as hell help you though.
You only reward end game achievments, and you pretend it's okay.
People mid game help end game people get items, but they have to wait to get their rewards...which they might at one point, but currently they will not.
GET IT0 -
I know Headtrauma tried to help me... As soon as I hit 70 he pmed me trying to give me his old items.... Too bad that i had already farmed the things I needed...0
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Walterthewf - Harshlands wrote: »Your missing the point.
You get GX, you get G9 Shards, you get your old axes for being the first to get 90.
You sure as hell didn't do enough alone to get all of these.
People are are 7x-8x get nothing. They sure as hell help you though.
You only reward end game achievments, and you pretend it's okay.
People mid game help end game people get items, but they have to wait to get their rewards...which they might at one point, but currently they will not.
GET IT
I said I wouldn't respond, but I will one last time.
I guess you never looked at my gear before I hit 90...everything I had other than my weapons was vendor bought. I used HH70 axes until I was level 85. There are a lot of 8x people who have helped me out, and if you want to be hostile toward me because I, on my own, am incapable of making sure that they are all completely compensated for all the help they have given me, there's nothing I can do about that. That's your problem, not mine.
If you have an issue with our guilds reward system or the incentives we give people to level, why not just be happy that you're in a guild with a system you agree with? You have no valid reason to criticize our way of doing things. If people in our guild dislike it, they are always welcome to make suggestions, and if they are persistently unhappy they are more than welcome to leave. Get it?
I realize people will hate me as soon as they inspect me and see my gear, and I will do my best to not let it bother me. But I really don't understand why so many people feel the urge to talk **** about people they have had no contact with whatsoever. You don't know me. Don't act like you do. End of story.
Now I'm out.0 -
Oh for the love of god can somebody post a SS of the GX? b:surrender0
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Walterthewf - Harshlands wrote: »Your missing the point.
You get GX, you get G9 Shards, you get your old axes for being the first to get 90.
You sure as hell didn't do enough alone to get all of these.
People are are 7x-8x get nothing. They sure as hell help you though.
You only reward end game achievments, and you pretend it's okay.
People mid game help end game people get items, but they have to wait to get their rewards...which they might at one point, but currently they will not.
GET IT
Lol, lets give a lvl 70 Gx, lets give G9s to lvl 70s because it isnt like 70-80 isnt only 1 week long. We have 3 90s right now, all have g9s, all have hh90. I know no one here actually in Kingdom is writing it because we openly disscuss it on forum on future salary and benifits. So nice try, Bye.0 -
Icon - Harshlands wrote: »Lol, lets give a lvl 70 Gx, lets give G9s to lvl 70s because it isnt like 70-80 isnt only 1 week long. We have 3 90s right now, all have g9s, all have hh90. I know no one here actually in Kingdom is writing it because we openly disscuss it on forum on future salary and benifits. So nice try, Bye.
broo
cmon how are you not getting this
YOUR SYSTEM IS NOT COMPLICATED
STOP EXPLAINING IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER TO ME
I GET IT
BUT IT HAS ITS FLAWS
STOP BEIN DUMB
YOUR PLAN IS NOT PERFECT, AND YOUR PLAN REWARDS LESS PEOPLE WITH MORE
I GET IT
OKAY
I DO I DO I DO
BUT IF YOU REWARD MORE TO LESS, PPL WILL COMPLAIN
U GET IT?
THX BRO I TRY HARD0 -
Ligeia - Harshlands wrote: »Icon should play professional dodgeball with as pro as he is at dodging questions.
Ligeia, this is why you are my favorite person ever.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Walterthewf - Harshlands wrote: »You may have given the most, but the person that gave the fourth and fifth most that are BMs get screwed by this system.
That's fact.
Obviously you see nothing wrong with it, others do.
It's not complicated.
It's just what it is.
Oh. my. god. Crimson just agreed with QQme, the server is going to explode! b:shockedIcon - Harshlands wrote: »Lol, lets give a lvl 70 Gx, lets give G9s to lvl 70s because it isnt like 70-80 isnt only 1 week long. We have 3 90s right now, all have g9s, all have hh90. I know no one here actually in Kingdom is writing it because we openly disscuss it on forum on future salary and benifits. So nice try, Bye.
Icon, I stayed in your guild for three consecutive weeks and never got paid, never got charms, NEVER got compensation for my DONATIONS.
I don't have to sit up here and flame you or anything, you get too pissy when I do anyhow.
Learn to take criticism like a man plz b:victory
And when your low 80s start hitting 90, I'd LOVE to see you giving out full HH90 with 2-4 G9s to everyone, when that hits the fan, you'll understand all those PMs b:bye0
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