Fix NIXES before the game dies?

First, I would like to point out that, until a sticky is posted about the wonderful power of a phoenix and how it is/is not bugged, nobody is going to stfu about it. If my gf had a phoenix, I would do the simplest thing in the world, when she asked to duel. Say f*ing no. Is it really that hard? You see a veno, with a phoenix. Do your instincts scream 'We can pwn this noob'? If you are a slack-jawed monkey, maybe. When you play the game long enough to think you're god at level 50, you deserve to get spanked.

Second, until anyone can provide a single shred of physical, unaltered proof that something has been acknowledged, fixed, or simply changed, don't bring it to the table for conversation. Saying that you, your friend, your cousin, or your pet gopher saw a site/rant/sticky/flyer/memo on anything means...nothing. It means that the words you are muttering under your breath, as you type, are only useful as hot air. Accept it. Either back it up or pack it up. It's no good here.

Third, crying OP is about as sad as a player can get. I don't like the fact my knockback fails in PvP. Did I make a thread on it? No. Stfu and get on with your life. If you took on a person that paid $200+ straight out of their REAL pocket, or a person that paid 23m of hard earned coins, be prepared to get your **** handed to you. It takes some serious dedication to do what they did, just to get that damn thing. Don't think they are going to just let go and be gentle.

Finally, I don't see anyone complaining about the skill when the veno is using it to save your ****, only when they are handing it to you. The next time you bump heads with a powered up veno, sitting with a phoenix next to them, just be nice and thank them for a good match and pray to god they'll help you when you REALLY need it.

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Why does everyone have to accept that it's a bug when there is no official source stating that it is a bug?


BTW, chipsing, the day you decide to consistently post on your 70+ BM is the day I'll post on a character that levels.

I thought I was the only one thinking he was talking to himself. >_>

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »

Grow up and go ***** about matters that are really important.

Like people needing Nix. T_T

That totally made my night b:chuckle

b:cute i luv my Nix.. b:dirtyb:dirty


But it's crazy >.> My Phoenix lvl 61 just ownd a Wiz lvl 94 and 89+ Archer >.>

b:surrender w/ Bleed lvl 2 x_X

I think, it's just important to know/learn how to handle a Phoenix / the "Enemy" in PvP

Tearvalerin
u call me immature and idiot? o.O
look what u had posted. Its like a crying of big kid becouse adult want to take the only toy he got.
just shut up and dont call other ppl like that on forum. be a bit more polite and if u cant dont post anything

Every1 knows its a bug
GMs will not say its truth becouse they would have to fix it immedietly and hande with thousends ot tickets bout it. so they just leave it like it is.
every single class got thairs advantages and disadvantages. if u all count on bugs its sad. as far as i know only veno class is so buged
and yes pets are buged in tt too.
should i deal my 100% of dmg in tt too? why venos have to be better in tt then any other class?
and om not complaining i just wants to show u all venos to be a bit more carefull what u doing/posting/saying

PS.
HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE FIXED WITH NEW EXPANSION SO Tearvalerin CAN SHUT UPb:thanks

Veekee88 - Sanctuary wrote: »

Tearvalerin
u call me immature and idiot? o.O
look what u had posted. Its like a crying of big kid becouse adult want to take the only toy he got.
just shut up and dont call other ppl like that on forum. be a bit more polite and if u cant dont post anything

Every1 knows its a bug
GMs will not say its truth becouse they would have to fix it immedietly and hande with thousends ot tickets bout it. so they just leave it like it is.
every single class got thairs advantages and disadvantages. if u all count on bugs its sad. as far as i know only veno class is so buged
and yes pets are buged in tt too.
should i deal my 100% of dmg in tt too? why venos have to be better in tt then any other class?
and om not complaining i just wants to show u all venos to be a bit more carefull what u doing/posting/saying

PS.
HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE FIXED WITH NEW EXPANSION SO Tearvalerin CAN SHUT UP b:thanks

Look, you do sound a bit like you are complaining, and no, it's unlikely to be changed in the next expansion, if ever which means Tearvalerin won't shut up anytime soon.

The Kin insults noone when he says this, but Common sense dictates that if it something quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, and swims like a duck, then it is a duck.

So with that in mind, the Kin's bleed does about like 1840 dmg or some weird number like that. In PVP, it hits for around 60ish - 160ish per tick (forgot the exact amount) but either way, it doesn't do full damage as in PVE which it does around 200-300 per tic.

Now, the Kin got his first taste of flesh ream a while back. All the crying and stuff, the Kin thought that perhaps it was over exagerated (sp?) but in any case, the Kin fought a nix finally. The speed of the thing is insane..Couldn't out run it even with will...Then came the damage..200-300ish per hit, not a big deal...Then came the ream.. a whopping 798 dmg a tic in HEAVY ARMOR.

Let's analyze that, seeing as bleeds tic for 5 tics. We'll up that to 800, just fo ease of mathematics. So that is 800 x 5. That comes out to be a whopping 4000 hp...Over 15 seconds. Now, being as the Kin has only 3200 hp...Yeah, 4000 > 3200. Now, why is it that the Kin's bleed does not do full damage in PVE yet the Nixs damage remains unchanged. If it IS scaled down, it clearly isn't enough as 300 > 160 is quite a scale down, near half. A charm is necessary to even survive that bleed, and pots are out of the question as the strongest pot, that isn't apothecary restores 1000 hp over 15 seconds. The strongest apothecary pot restores 6000 or 9000 HP (forget which) over 30 seconds (these are pots usable by a level 68 btw).

Now, restoration over 30 seconds is slower than damage over 15 seconds...More tics, less heal per tic than the damage per tic being done. Let's not forget of course the magical girl veno wailing on you with her scarabs etc. And the damage of the nix of course with the insane accuracy (4k evasion using will and it still doesn't have any trouble hitting me..) So yeah, common sense dictates if something acts out of the ordinary, then it is an anomaly. In this case, flesh ream is an anomaly, whether they want to acknowledge as a bug or not, it is clear cut that it's damage isn't being reduced properly. We won't get into the TT PVE thing with the herc...All in all, the Kin personally believes that unless Flesh ream is reduced, or his bleeds are increased, Flesh ream shouldn't be applied to nix's period..

Oh and for those who say that the veno doesn't stand a chance without bugged flesh ream, learn to play. Blademasters have plenty of weaknesses and venos are one of the toughest classes to kill because of their insanely versatile skill set, (at least for The Kin). Seriously, if you're getting beaten horribly as a veno, you clearly don't know how to play your class.

Edit: For those of you that still don't know, look up SOULCLEANSE ORBS in the apothecary. They remove all debuffs including bleed / flesh ream. They have a horrendously long cooldown though (45-60 secondsish) so after using it, you have 15 seconds to off the veno. G'luck :P
- The Kin

Echo - Harshlands wrote: »

Stfu spend 200$ and plus your gear,

omg no wai did you not think of that?!?!

i mean a nix cant kill you if your armor is way better and you have alot of HP

why? because you can kill the veno before the nix kills you.

asking for "fixed veno pet bug" is like asking for BM's to have less stuns
archers to have less crits barbs to have less HP and mage's do more damage and clerics heal less.

dear god its a game, play, laugh, have fun and GROW THE **** UP

So wait, if the Kin spends 200$ will all his skills magically ignore PVP rules? Will his dual spark magically do 3500 dmg + 60% of weapon damage and one shot everyone? That would be really nice.

Surely you see how unreasonable that sounds...paying 200$ real cash is still no reason for it to magically ignore PVP reductions. It's a thing called balance. Seriously, you should get hit by it a few times yourself. It isn't fun. There's no way to laugh and have fun when there is something that's incredibly common (yes nixes are incredibly common on LC) roaming around that does so much damage. It's like everyone having +12 weapons and one shotting everyone else. It isn't fun.

Stfu spend 200$ and plus your gear,

I would if it were magically free to transfer refinement levels from one piece of gear to another, and if spending $200 to refine a weapon would remove its PVP damage reductions. Then this would be another one of those fun F2P games where all the players spending nothing on the cash shop are better off just not playing.

Unless you meant to say, "Spend $200 (multiple times while you level for each set of armor) so you can probably have enough HP to survive a bugged boutique item if you're using heavy armor, but not necessarily, so that we can stop getting defensive over a clearly imbalanced aspect of game play."

Insult my class,

and youre insulting me,

I insult you back,

That's cute, in a third-grader, kids-say-the-darndest-things sort of way, but grossly untrue. If you wanna be a ****, at least have enough of a spine to own up to it without resorting to borderline-**** pseudojustifications of your own belligerence.

i still like my post more lol


other classes will die, not the game


than the veno's granddiabolicle plan will be achieved...





the absolute ruleing of PWI Muhahahahahahahahab:angry

Ixta - Harshlands wrote: »

Seriously.. everyone knows it.. Nixes are OP.

You want to fix them? or see the game die?

Fix QQ before we kill you? Stop bitching about the nix. There's plenty of threads out there for nix haters already...

Phoenix - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Stop resorting to pithy estimations of a simple observation as "whining". It is bugged, GMs have admitted it, and if you took ten seconds away from impressing your puerile semantics onto an argument with which you disagree, you could have easily found this out for yourself.

Should I suggest that Venos quit whining about their right to use a bug, now, or would the irony of that go over your head? (Sort of like the irony of you demanding proof that GMs admitted this was a bug, when they did so in a thread you were posting in.)

Ten seconds? There is no search you can do using the term Flesh Ream that would find that post unless you want to dig through thread after thread after thread because those words are not in that post. Add to that, if you do a search by thread, and not by post, it will take more than 10 seconds to find that post, from 2 months ago, that would have been buried by all the other threads "complaining" about phoenixes etc.

Furthermore, your post was making a claim that is blatantly false because the phoenix is not, and never has been, bugged.

Tearvalerin wrote:

Have a spine? I'm pretty much the only one with a pair man enough to call out little **** like you who think you can come in and trash my class just because of something in game which is in no was game breaking whatsoever.

Checking...nope, never said anything that would besmirch the all-hallowed name of our most sanctimonious of classes, Venomancers. If I did that, I doubt I could get my sister to drag my poor BM **** through TTs with her Herc so I can make better money, after all. Again, quit making excuses. If you wanna be a d*ck, great, I got no problem with that. Hell, I'm a d*ck, too. Quit hiding behind some contrived form of **** tribal instinct meaninglessly extrapolated into the digital realm just so you can justify hating people who disagree with you. It's a disgusting form of cowardice, really.

For the millionth time, a phoenix is not glitched nor is flesh ream, yet little ******* like you cant seem to take the time of day to absorb it into your thickly lined carapaces you call skulls to realize that it is indeed neither the skill, nor the pet, but the reduction aspect of PVP which has been glitched.

Semantic Scholar 387 wrote:

What is bugged is the damage reduction of bleed effect from the skill. There is a big difference.

Okay, you got me. The damage reduction aspect of PVP is glitched. Said glitch only applies to Veno pets. Therefore, Veno pets are glitched.

This ain't rocket surgery, you guys...