Clerics in PvP???

Full Attack Clerics are better at it then supports.

FAC Guide

However, that is not to say a support cleric can't get the job done. You just have to know your class.....Just don't really plan on beating a bm or wb b:chuckle....

FAC dont exist!!!

clerics r alrite but if the other ppl r smart its easy to kill u

Given the right equipment and choice of skills to a cleric, who can actually maneuver and manipulate his/her style of PvP and a level advantage... you should be able to win.

If you lack one of the above, you won't be able to kill your target in PvP.

If you have the level advantage, you should be able to kill your target.

However, if you end up fighting a BM who knows what he's doing, you are dead.

Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »

With Plume shell and Heiros I would say it's impossible to kill a cleric. and BMs are 2-3 hits for clerics not hard.

There's a BM on Lost City with 11k Metal defense. Even worse, he's got 7k HP. Tempest hits him around 1.2k.

GL 2-3 hitting him.

If the BM is good then you'll be stunned the whole time, if the Cleric is good then the BM will never even get close to you. As for barbs, I don't think there's any sort of direct battle with the Barb itself but his charm. Go figure..

Bubbagummer - Lost City wrote: »

i agree. clerics are extremely squishy. there is no way the phy def of a robe cleric can match up to a bm's or wb's.

Consider the LA build for PvP.

Zephyrx - Lost City wrote: »

I think most of the time it would be better for the Cleric to support the team in PvP instead of being a damage dealer.

1 vs 1 is pretty sucidal for a class that's sub-par with wizards on damage. Even the game itself states that wizards do the greatest damage on their main site. A class that is not suited for 1 vs 1 play should not 1 vs 1 unless you have a huge advantage.

ok - put gears aside refining aside everything aside

A pure INT wizard at level 74 has around 1.7khp
A pure INT cleric at level 74 has around 1.7khp


I was dueling a level 74 wizard and I hit a 4.7k crit with plume shot - sparked
then with no spark I hit 1.9k with razor feathers.
with normal spark I hit 1.9k with plume shot. all that would 1 hit a wizard.

Pure INT wizard hit 650 with sandstorm unsparked.
hit 1000 with sandstorm with normal spark
never tested with advanced spark. but what we did test was when the wizard did Adv spark, SS then Nix I was not dead, had around 200hp left over.

so this instantly puts the cleric to an advantage - the physical.

Now wizards have a skill called undine strike which lowers a cleric magic defence by 60% we can use magic shell and bam no diffrence however without the +60% magic defence a wizard should easily be able to kill us.

A clerics Guardian light - reduces all damage taken by 60% for 10 seconds (like a mini invoke spirit) makes it impossible for a wizard to out damage our heals.

so when you have a wizard vs cleric duel the cleric will out damage the wizard.

I am only clearing up that clerics can damage in PvP and although we are the only support class, we are a damn fine attacking clas 2

there are no good/bad clerics, only skilled/unskilled players.

Funny this topic should come up. My husband and I were playing last night on Harshlands and had camped our characters under the West Gate of Archosaur to watch House.

During the course of that hour a sniper Cleric took out at least 6 people who came in/out that gate. It was mostly blue people milling around, otherwise I'm sure it would have been higher. She was hovering too far off to get a look at her equipment, and she killed everyone in 1-3 shots so I didn't have a chance to get a look at theirs either, so I have no clue what anyone's levels or builds were. She had plenty of stat buffs though, and I don't think anyone knew what hit them.

After our show was over we moved out, but right behind us two more players dropped to her arrows. Yeowch. Needless to say, she was one of the deepest reds I've seen around. And as far as I can tell, nobody came back to challenge her while she was camped there. I don't know if that says anything but it made me glad that my characters are still within the blue range for a little longer

Clerics are no problem for bms and barbs if you want to pk try targeting wizards.

Personally I pk a lot and have no problem taking down a cleric 10 levels higher than me, but then again I'm a barb b:chuckle

Ghettodog - Lost City wrote: »

Clerics are a problem for bms and barbs if you want to pk try targeting wizards.

Personally I pk a lot and have a lot problems taking down a cleric 10 levels lower than me, but then again I'm a barb b:chuckle

fixed a few mistakes 4 ya mate

Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »

Clerics should focus on keeping the rest of their party alive and buffed and not worry so much about doing damage. When i get a cleric attacking me, usually that tells me they think they do a lot of damage, so they probably don't have a lot of hp and they're in robes. Also, pet bleeds ignore plume shell, so don't rely on that to save you from a veno. (not that I can't debuff away plume shell anyways.)

Leave the damage dealing to mages/archers/venos and just focus on keeping your party alive.

I like the color red.

ALL classes have their merits and demerits in PVP. These aren't shared across all builds of that class however. To give the fairest comparison of the PVP capability of each class, PVP builds should be used and the use charms assumed.

In this case the cleric should have:
Near up-to-date seals.
A Vit or LA build.
HP and MP charm.

In which case, a cleric is able to:
Heal more hp/s than dp/s is being done without sparks, debuffs or crits/zerks.
Plume shell without interruption, thus reducing damage done by sparks to 20%.
Can purify any negative effects, allowing IH to continue to keep hp maxed.

A cleric's major weakness is being stunned however, due to their inability to cast Iron Heart, Plume Shell or Purify.
Another weakness, created by a cleric's stalling tactics with Iron heart and plume is their susceptibility to eventual crits and/or zerks.

A cleric's offensive strength? Phys and magic damage, quick cast times, strong nuke.