DUAL BLADER built & some skill guidance

chong
chong Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2009 in Blademaster
DUAL BLADER built & some skill guidance!!!

I have received many private message recently and asked me for guides about Dual Blade players. So I have decided to spend some time to share some of my experience with you guys. If you like it then follow. If you don't. Pls don't sh.it - talking in this forum.

Stats should follow the guidance from the other forums as stated.

Even level – 3 STR, 1 AGI, 1 CON
Odd level – 2 STR, 2 AGI, 1 CON

Or

Even level – 2 STR, 2 AGI, 1 CON
Odd level – 3 STR, 1 AGI, 1 CON


For skills, I recommend or suggest you follow those, but still depend on your own choice and your playing style.

These 4 skills you should max as soon as possible

1.Aeolian Blade (lvl 19) – Stun (50% in level 10), your base physical damage + weapon damage % + additional physical damage, it is extremely good. No need vigor/chi.

2.Atmos Strike (lvl 49) - Extremely good, no need vigor/chi, your base physical damage + weapon damage % + additional physical damage,, cool down time 8 sec, which is very fast.

3.Myriad Sword Stance (lvl 59) - What I have to say, it is your fuking Ultimate skill, put it into priority. Your base physical damage + weapon damage % + additional physical damage, it is AOE and casting distance is 8 meters, here is the BEST part, it reduces enemy’s physical damage + enemy’s magical damage to % for over 15 seconds (lvl 10, it is 50% !!!!). It needs 2 vigor/ Chi though…..But 1 cast, all physical low defenses players, their HP is often reduce to HALF!

4.Sword Mastery (lvl 29) – Same as your ultimate, put it to priority as well. Why because it adds your base damage as well as it has impact on all your skills’ damage.

Other Important Skills for damaging

1.Mage Base (lvl 29) - level 1 - 3 for temporary, max all other damaging skill then consider this. Because it requires 1 vigor/chi.

2.Spirit chase (lvl 39) - very nice to have because it is range skill and high damage, it is very useful when your target tries to escape, and fly away. Nevertheless, you often suffer from lack of skill point; put it if you have enough skill point. If you go for pk regularly, it is better that you have at least lvl 5 – 7, then stop adding it for a while before you have max the 4 main damaging skills.

3.Drake's Ray (lvl 6) – Range damaging skill, although it is kinda low damage, still it is good to have. Because you will have 2 major range skills, and make them to combo, you can kill your target when they try to run.

4.Stream Strike (lvl 9) – well, it is kinda useless, because its low damage and need Vigor/Chi. However, after lvl 89, you should get it if you are in HELL side, because Demon version gives a 25% chance to recover 800 HP for you. So you can put it around lvl 5 when you are low level then focus on other major skill first.

5.Ocean's Edge (lvl 26) - level 5 enough for temporary; add it when you have additional skill point. As a sword warrior, this is the only skill you can slow your opponent, then following by your stun skill to freeze them. So it is very useful for PK.

6.Fan of Flames – lvl 1 is enough unless in the end you have extra skill points.…

7.Drake Sweep – lvl 1 is enough for temporary, although it is a very nice AOE, it is wiser to put your skill points in your main Sword Skills first.

8.Roar of the Pride/Lion Roar. Lvl 1 or lvl 2 is ENOUGH! Don't max it as soon as possible, it will be dumb, if you do that. Because even level 1 the chance of stunning is already extremely high, plus the cool down time is so slow. It should be the last skill to max it.


Defenses Skills

1.Diamond Sutra – Most have, but due to we often lack of skill points; put it 1-4 for temporary, the main point is to get the 20% of your HP recharge.

2.Alter Marrow Magical (lvl 16) / Alter Marrow Physical (lvl 23) – I only can say, these 2 skills are highly depending your playing style and your situation. But it is not that wise lvl up it higher lvl 5, because you will suffer lack of skill points to put your main damaging skill.

3.Aura of the golden bell - max it if you have skill point. Good for leveling and Other high physical defense players. However, for pk, when you face Mage or Werefox = useless. Still you should max it , you need it eventually. You can Max it when you are level 60 +

4.Cloud Sprint – max it, enhance your movement speed.

5.Will of the Bodhisatva – add it. It is useful. Need 1 vigor/chi. It increases your movement speed by 100%, increases evasion while moving by 100%, grants immunity to stun and freeze. Lasts 15 seconds. You can even exploit the advantage of 100% evasion when duel ^^.

For other high level skills which you can get in lvl 79 and lvl 100

1.Dragon Bane (lvl 79) - Invented by a famous Blademaster while fighting a beastly dragon. This ferocious technique promised him victory, and was taught to others with the name Dragon Bane. Reduces attack power by 50% but increases critical hit by 25% for 30 seconds.

2. Smack (lvl 79)- Attack that unleashes power through space. Deals base physical damage to enemy plus 100% of base physical damage plus 1000. Seals the target for 2-3 seconds.

3. Flash (lvl 100) (only Bladers or Swordies can have it and use it :D) - Nobody has ever seen the real version of this skill because its creator is an unknown demonic blade wielder, however it's reputation lives. After some time, people tended to call this new powerful skill Flash, in order to pass the legend down to the new crop of blade users. It is said that the skill works amazingly when the user is in a dire situation. Deals 150% of base physical damage to the target. Also deals an additional 150% of caster's current HP subtracted from their maximum HP.

4.Buddha's Guard (lvl 100) - Summons the power of the sutras to protect the whole squad, giving all nearby squad members an extra 1000% of their equipment's physical defense for 10 seconds. Also recovers 20% of caster's maximum HP over 15 seconds

Soul Stone Guide
HP stone is better, because you need survival for rushing close enough to kill your target. Dodge rate stone is good. BUT, don’t forget Magical Skill has 100% success for hitting you!
So it is wiser for Blade Master to go for HP Stone in all your Armors.

HERE is the website to check out Blade Master Skills or other characters' skills
http://www.ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php

Why we want to go for Blade?

Because Axe wielders suck in pking Archers due to Archers high dodge rate, and axe wielders can only add less than 55 or 60 Agi, because they need high STR for Axe. This makes them extremely hard to pk an Archer. Even though there is 50% accuracy increased Ring. Their base hit rate - 550 + 550 (two 50% rings) = 1100, with other equipments or items, LOL, you have less than 1200 hit rate. Even though you can add Accuracy soul stones on your weapon, it is not wise or probably stupid, because you sacrifice adding Damage Soul stone. For example, a LVL 9 soul stone is so so so expensive and hard to have. And Archer can probably just add Dodge rate Soul Stones in all his equipment sockets with their Dodge rate increasing Skill, so you will still MISS MISS MISS. Tell me how the hell you can pawn an Archer, if you just keep Miss Miss Miss. The archer can cast magical damage on you, and you will get pawned eventually. Don’t forget lvl 79 Archers can cast a skill increase their dodge rate 1000% within 6 sec. A pure Agi archer, it is almost impossible for Axe player to deal with.

However, I didn't mean that Axer players suck at all, they are good in killing other melee class or other class, and they are the Best in Territory War due to they can have 5 AOE damaging skills, you will see a lot of blood dropping when you are rampaging with you AOE in the war.

You have to decide wisely, before choosing your mastery if you are playing a warrior. There are some classes you can pawn, and some classes which are too hard for you to deal with. If you want to kill Elf Archer (Most Regular PKers are Archers), Fist or Sword mastery is the choice for you. If you are an Axer, sorry dude, you should avoid pking that class as possible as you can.

And when you are level 89, you have to choose Heaven or Hell side. And your skills and defense are greatly enhanced. If you like to pawn low Physical defenses player, HELL is you choice, because of the Critical, and attack speed. Furthermore, if you go hell side, there is a advantage for Bladers to kill high Dodge rate player, because in Atmos Strike (hell side), has 50% chance to reduce 50% target’s evasion for 8 sec. Aoelian Blade cool down time reduced to 5 sec, you will find out that you can stun a lot! Myriad Sword Stance has 50% chance stunning all enemies within 12 meters range for 3 seconds. Lion Roar/Roar of the Pride in Hell Side is 100% success rate. You can own them easily in Few Hits, after you get close to them. Don't tell me it is impossible to get close to them, if you can't do that, you are a fuking noob.

If you want to pk an Elf Archer in air, you have to assault him, instead of flying straight to him. The game is balanced. Furthermore, if you get close enough to an Archer, use Lion Roar, and Aeolion blade (lvl 19 skill), other skills, stun, stun, and stun, and he will be eating grass.

If those Elf Archers say that we only know running when they are attacking us in the air. I would say "why don't you come down and then talk to me, let see who is the running bit.ch?" Ya, stay in the air forever, don't do quests? don't go dungeon (can't fly, jump)? 90% quests have to be done in Land, and this game is all about leveling fast by doing quest. Let see who has the most advantage.

I hope many noobies stop QQ this class is bad, that class sucks in the forum. Later on, you play Mage or WF, and find out you always get owned by Blade Master in late game because of low physical defenses. Then you cry again and say that “OMFG, mage sucks in pking, they can't survive long enough, because of low defense and low hp!" "My Pet can't do sh.it, because players only rush to attk me straightly!" “Why i got stunned so much, My arrows can't even damage him!"

I hope players learn to play their Character before QQ in the forums! Finally ENJOY the Game!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
YOU JUST GOT OWNED b:bye
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Comments

  • Ashantia - Heavens Tear
    Ashantia - Heavens Tear Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Nice guide Chong ^.~
  • Sinnerz - Lost City
    Sinnerz - Lost City Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    I have to say, Being a blade user myself. They're are alot of cry babies who complain that axe users own and blade sucks; You hear it all day.


    One day ppl are going to realize in later levels blade users own hard.



    Btw nice guide =P
  • Deathbell - Sanctuary
    Deathbell - Sanctuary Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    hehe i was one of the guys messaging him in private message :p thanks for the great guide man.. its awesum.
  • kaixa
    kaixa Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Heyy so I just started this game (really glad i started playing) and well I was wondering how do you put 3 str 2 agi and 1 con when you only get 5 skill points per level? Sorry if its a noob question.
  • benign
    benign Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    um, even level stats dont add up to 5 per level, it says 3 str, 2 agi, 1 con, thats 6, can you clarify on that?
  • chong
    chong Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    kaixa wrote: »
    Heyy so I just started this game (really glad i started playing) and well I was wondering how do you put 3 str 2 agi and 1 con when you only get 5 skill points per level? Sorry if its a noob question.
    benign wrote: »
    um, even level stats dont add up to 5 per level, it says 3 str, 2 agi, 1 con, thats 6, can you clarify on that?


    sorry, my bad, it is 3str, 1 agi, 1 con. I just changed it.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    YOU JUST GOT OWNED b:bye
  • bageren
    bageren Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Which level should you level Drake's Ray to? b:pleased

    And is draw blood worthless?

    Please help.
  • Draakin - Sanctuary
    Draakin - Sanctuary Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    I played a dual blade wr on the MY-EN, and I must say, I wish I this guide was around back then :D
    My posts kill topics :D
  • chong
    chong Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    bageren wrote: »
    Which level should you level Drake's Ray to? b:pleased

    And is draw blood worthless?

    Please help.

    As it is mentioned in there, only those skill that i have written you should put, others just lvl 1 in order to get the higher skill. And don't listen to anyone who tells you to get 2 weapon masteries. YOU DON"T HAVE SKILL POINT TO DO THAT, that is the point. unless you are lvl 80+. below 80+, you don't have the skill points to do that.
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    YOU JUST GOT OWNED b:bye
  • bageren
    bageren Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    You did mention drakes ray, and which level should i put it to?
  • mecurial
    mecurial Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    thanks for the guide dude, really helps me in buidling my char
    so...can i know ur current lvl, stat so i know when to stop adding the CONb:victory
    ~~~~la la la~~~~~~
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  • chong
    chong Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    mecurial wrote: »
    thanks for the guide dude, really helps me in buidling my char
    so...can i know ur current lvl, stat so i know when to stop adding the CONb:victory

    never stop adding con... more con = more hp, u need to survive for Magical Attack and Rage attack, before you can get close to ur target
    bageren wrote: »
    You did mention drakes ray, and which level should i put it to?

    It is highly depending on you, if u start suffering skill point, then stop it. above lvl 5 wil be fine
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  • heavenshock12
    heavenshock12 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Sec what's even and odd?...
  • fedmahn
    fedmahn Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    In french, it's "pair" and "impair": lvl 2/4/6 ... and lvl 1/3/5 ...
    so, even lvl, 2/2/1, and odd lvl 3/1/1 to your stats for a 5/3/2 ratio.

    Hope it will help ^^
  • lekker
    lekker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    but isnt it a good idea to put str and dex as much as your weapon and armor needs and rest goes to con?If so then on some lvls you can put more than 1 point to con. Or its a very bad idea?^^
  • smitejab
    smitejab Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    I don't quite understand you're guide, the skills you say you must level up...what level should we level up to? So that we don't lose ability to level other skills? I'm a noob so if I've got the system wrong then my bad.

    Examples
    4.Stream Strike (lvl 9)
  • Chaozknight - Heavens Tear
    Chaozknight - Heavens Tear Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    cool guide thanx
  • Burjis - Heavens Tear
    Burjis - Heavens Tear Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Your guide makes me feel proud of being a sword build blademaster. However I mostly use single wields not dual blades.
    I know duals have more damage but single blades are extremely fast and I think that duals are better when you use skills at a constant rate but since I mostly play PVE and don't use too much skills (I always run out of mana) I prefer the faster higher level single blades which IMO work perfectly in combination with spark eruption.
    However I will be happy to know your opinion about these 2 sword types.
    I can always switch between the two so its never too late to pick one over the other.

    I also want to know why should I go for hp soul stones. I currently have almost 12 total slots on my armor and amulets and if I fill them all with hp stones it gives me something like 300 hp. Does it make a real difference when each magic attack hit me for 350-400 damage at my current level (without buffs)? I am totally undecided about which shard to use. I was thinking of magic def shards but I'm not sure. I would greatly appreciate your help on this.

    Thanks for the guide.
  • complexx
    complexx Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Your guide makes me feel proud of being a sword build blademaster. However I mostly use single wields not dual blades.
    I know duals have more damage but single blades are extremely fast and I think that duals are better when you use skills at a constant rate but since I mostly play PVE and don't use too much skills (I always run out of mana) I prefer the faster higher level single blades which IMO work perfectly in combination with spark eruption.
    However I will be happy to know your opinion about these 2 sword types.
    I can always switch between the two so its never too late to pick one over the other.

    I also want to know why should I go for hp soul stones. I currently have almost 12 total slots on my armor and amulets and if I fill them all with hp stones it gives me something like 300 hp. Does it make a real difference when each magic attack hit me for 350-400 damage at my current level (without buffs)? I am totally undecided about which shard to use. I was thinking of magic def shards but I'm not sure. I would greatly appreciate your help on this.

    Thanks for the guide.

    wr / wb imo always use hp, Yes you can get Mag def or Phy Def shards. But that only covers one type of damage you receive. Hp covers all since more hp you have harder it is to kill you.
    b:cute

    Sinnerz Lost City PvP.
  • pnoyflip
    pnoyflip Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Is this a pvp or a pve build? idk which build should i follow this one or the other one found which is: even-3str 2dex Odd- 2str 2dex 1vit and after every 5 lvls 3str 2vit
  • Bobncut - Sanctuary
    Bobncut - Sanctuary Posts: 419 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    pnoyflip wrote: »
    Is this a pvp or a pve build? idk which build should i follow this one or the other one found which is: even-3str 2dex Odd- 2str 2dex 1vit and after every 5 lvls 3str 2vit

    Even at the level of a rule of thumb, there isn't much difference between these stat guides you're considering. Over 10 levels, they give you STR 25, DEX 15, VIT 10 - or - STR 26, DEX 16, VIT 8. It will take a long time for you to notice any difference between those in terms of the character attributes. It may make more of a difference in just when a piece of new equipment becomes usable or which level you get the 1% jump in crit rate. What you should do is sit in front of a blacksmith and tailor for a little while and work out the level/stat requirements for your choice of armor and weapons and then adjust either of these rules of thmb to fit best with what you want to be able to equip when. Oh, and don't forget to put the crit jumps in there too (at every 20 points of DEX).

    As a more general matter, this guide was written for a PvP use, but I've found it fits my play-style for PvE very nicely because i like to work for a 1-on-1 with mobs. Other types of blademaster seem to have more of a difference between the way they play PvE and PvP.
  • hpster
    hpster Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    hi im klvl 15 blade master and i was wondering where do i get the flyuing swords humans get at lvl 20 or 30b:angry
  • Bobncut - Sanctuary
    Bobncut - Sanctuary Posts: 419 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    At level 30 you will get a quest from the Elder in Archosaur. He sends you to the Recluce outside Etherblade who has you collect some items that you trade for your first flying sword.
  • blindeyesniper
    blindeyesniper Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    I'm now at level 36 with 53k spirit points left. I have lvl 7 tiger maw, lvl 2 ocean's edge, lvl 4 aoelian blade, lvl 1 fan of flames, lvl 3 drakes ray, lvl 2 stream strike, lvl 1 of those marrow skills, lvl 1 roar of pride, lvl 1 of those leap skills, lvl 1 sutra hp healing skill, lvl 5 golden bell, lvl 2 draw blood, and lvl 1 cloud spirit. I want to know which skills are good to max and be useful at higher levels.

    Did I mess up my sword BM by putting too much into tiger maw?
  • xveritas666x
    xveritas666x Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Hi, I followed this guide. its very nice. but i got to about level 20. And I did call to duty, Xenobeast. I got the blue weapon. then i challenge a friend who is lvl 24 to a duel. and he whomps the **** outta me, i got his hp like half way down already and i was dead. he is a blade master just like me with the blue weapon. his stat points may be different. so hes hitting liek 75's while I am hitting 30's. i was just wondering....why am i so weak?
  • AisuFubuki - Heavens Tear
    AisuFubuki - Heavens Tear Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Hi, I followed this guide. its very nice. but i got to about level 20. And I did call to duty, Xenobeast. I got the blue weapon. then i challenge a friend who is lvl 24 to a duel. and he whomps the **** outta me, i got his hp like half way down already and i was dead. he is a blade master just like me with the blue weapon. his stat points may be different. so hes hitting liek 75's while I am hitting 30's. i was just wondering....why am i so weak?

    Lol dude you're not weak, you're just a low lvl. Besides the weapons isn't all, the Gear you're wearing has an important role not only the weapon.
    The bigger, the better.
    The wetter, the smoother.
    b:victory



    But I'm INNOCENT....She said she was 18!b:cry
  • n0ob
    n0ob Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Here is a tip that can help you "Blade" users.
    Okay first of all you should know that "Sword" class warriors are hard to level up with since you don't have AoE. When you get to level 70, you can find a lot of meele monsters grouped in a single area. Axe warriors "solo zhen" or "solo AoE" (with a cleric floating above them healing them) these monsters getting 1.2% exp per minute and hence they level up faster.

    So my advise is, get a nice pair of axe, get the 4 AoE skills to level 5 (the stun is not included) and Axe mastery to w/e level you can offord. Trust me, this pays off in the long run. You don't have to alter your sword build, keep building your sword warrior just get this as a value add. Since your high dex and evasion will actually help you AoE more smoothly than a real axe warrior.
    I was going to post a reply... then I realized, you would likely reply in anger and insult me, to which I'd most likely respond with a wittier comment or slay you with a macro and then, onlookers, seeing that comments had been made, would interpret the traffic as interest, thus earning you attention you don't deserve for your **** post. So, when you DON'T see a comment from me, THAT is me saying "FAIL" in a much more effective manner.

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  • chong
    chong Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    n0ob wrote: »
    So my advise is, get a nice pair of axe, get the 4 AoE skills to level 5 (the stun is not included) and Axe mastery to w/e level you can offord. Trust me, this pays off in the long run. You don't have to alter your sword build, keep building your sword warrior just get this as a value add. Since your high dex and evasion will actually help you AoE more smoothly than a real axe warrior.

    that would be unwise, when u come to pk and duel. Don't listen to this dude, misleading suggestion. you won't have enough skill points to add ur main skills. Yes good in AOE, fast lvl up. It doesn't matter, u can just do Daily Quest and other quest to speed up ur lvling. My advice is to just stick to ur sword skill tree til u max most of u major sword skills. **** the AOE wannabe.b:shutup
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    YOU JUST GOT OWNED b:bye
  • Lyndura - Lost City
    Lyndura - Lost City Posts: 829 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    chong wrote: »
    that would be unwise, when u come to pk and duel. Don't listen to this dude, misleading suggestion. you won't have enough skill points to add ur main skills. Yes good in AOE, fast lvl up. It doesn't matter, u can just do Daily Quest and other quest to speed up ur lvling. My advice is to just stick to ur sword skill tree til u max most of u major sword skills. **** the AOE wannabe.b:shutup

    So, killing mobs one by one for 8 hours to level up is better than AoE trainning for 3-4 hours?
  • TheMusician - Heavens Tear
    TheMusician - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Agi...Con...?
    Agi = Dex
    Con = Vitality?